Talk:Alan Caiger-Smith

Revival

The source quoted says the technique (reduced lustre) died out. Marshall46 (talk) 15:55, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

• The article suggested he revived tin-glazing: this is incorrect as it never died out. Should Mr.Caiger-Smith have done something else that is noteworthy then it should, of course, be included. It is, however, false to claim he revived tin-glazing.
• And in respect to lustre glazes, when is this supposed to have died out? After Wedgwood's Fairyland Lustre? After Royal Lancastrian? Crown Devon lustre? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.88.66.111 (talk) 04:15, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

As a long-time editor, you know that the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth; that is, whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true. If you can provide a reliable source for your opinion it can be added to the article alongside the reliable source you disagree with. Marshall46 (talk) 11:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Neither tin glaze nor lustre glaze died out necessitating 'revival' or were a 'lost art'. And in respect of each:

• Tin glaze - a little on the history in the C20th century has been given in some recent edits, including [1]
• Lustre glaze - C20th makers predating Mr.Caiger-Smith include: A.E. Gray & Co, UK; Beatrice Wood, USA; Camark Pottery, USA; Carlton, UK; Clement Massier, France; Crown Derby, UK; Ellis Ceramics, Australia; Gordon Forsyth, UK; Gunda, Australia; Jean Barol, France; Keeling & Co., UK; Maling, UK; Moira Forsyth, UK; Noritake, Japan; Pates Potteries, Australia; Poillon Pottery, USA; Poole Pottery, UK; Royal Doulton, UK; Royal Lancastrian, UK; Rozenburg Royal Delftware Factory, Netherlands; Rye Sussex Pottery, UK; W.J. 'Bill' Gordy, USA; Wedgwood, UK; Zsolnay, Hungary

Some relevant C20th books & articles which predate those from Mr.Caiger-Smith:

• ‘Practical Production of One-fire Lustre Glazed Pottery.’ J.Am.Cer.Soc. 27, 62, 1944. A technical article..
• ‘Ceramic Glazes.’ 2nd edition. C.W.Parmelee. Industrial Publications, Inc. Chicago. 1951. Contains a sizeable part of a chapter on techniques & recipes.
• ‘Reduced Lustres.’ C.Vincent Davis. Ceramic Age 64, 44. 1954. A technical article.
• ‘Industrial And Manufacturing Chemistry.’ G.Martin. C. Lockwood and son, 1955. Gives a background on the science.
• ‘The Chemistry And Physics Of Clays And Other Ceramic Materials.’ A.B.Searle, R.W.Grimshaw. Interscience Publishers, London. 1959. Gives a background on the science.
• ‘Ceramic Glazes.’ F. Singer & W.L.German. Borax Consolidated, London. 1960. Contains a sizeable part of a chapter on techniques & recipes.
• ‘Industrial Ceramics.’ F.Singer & S.S.Singer. Chapman & Hall, London. 1963. Contains a sizeable part of a chapter on techniques & recipes.
• ‘Ceramic Glazes.’ K.Shaw. Applied Science Publishers, 1971. Contains a brief mention on technique and use.
• “Glazes For The Craft Potter. H.Fraser. Pitman, London. 1974. Contains a brief mention on technique and current use.

The aim of my edits has not be to deride Mr.Caiger-Smith's ware, however it is incorrect to claim he 'revived' the 'lost art' of tin glazes & lustre glazes. As I believe you were the original contributor of the content and have reverted recent edits I ask you to reconsider such claims and edit accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.88.66.111 (talk) 02:22, 9 March 2011 (UTC)