Talk:Joseph Jett

Please Do Not Delete Properly Sourced Material

Everyone puts in time to add to knowledge on Wikipedia. Let's not let personal biases destroy that. Restored the page to included the inputs (including my own) that were properly sourced from NYTimes and Barrons. Personally, I am a woman and a cancer survivor who came here after an interest in Michael Milken, another Wall Street Rogue, who has contributed significantly to cancer research. Interested if Mr. Jett has supported any charities or is in anyway philanthropic. The page needs to be fleshed out like Milken's in my opinion. Cancerwontwin (talk) 16:03, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Joe Jett is editing this page...

Joe Jett is editing this page, including passages from his mainly fictional autobiography which was discredited in several SEC decisions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.100.173.99 (talk) 02:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Joe Jett posts here under these identities, FYI

slumdog0416 cancerwontwin ma'atma'at deaththrow —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.100.173.99 (talk) 02:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Looks like someone is back

Holy crap. Look at the edits on March 7th. Is this guy back editing his own article again? --Manway (talk) 01:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

History of this Wikipedia Page. An essay in attempted character assasination.

Comix and I are high school students who had the pleasure of hearing Mr. Jett speak at our school for black history month, Feb 2011. I am African-American. Comix is white for whatever it matters. We did a paper on Reginald Lewis and Jett, pioneers of African Americans on Wall Street, both proud men who challenged the prevailing powers and both bizarrely barred from practicing their profession.

This Wikipedia page began in 2007 as the brainchild of Mitch Cox of Barclays Wealth Management and Jett's former girlfriend, Melissa Leonardo of Merrill Lynch. According to Leonardo, Cox advised her to seize Jett's equity in the home Jett alone had invested equity into and simultaneously to launch this Wikipedia page. The page long asserted that Jett had failed to gain his Harvard MBA, had been found criminally liable by the SEC and that his business, Jett Capital Management did not exist. By seizing the home equity, they prevented Jett from having legal counsel when, after 13 years his case finally went before the District Court. Their long term goal was to cripple Jett financially.

For 3 years their assertions have dominated this page. However, in October 2010, Wikipedia's attorneys agreed that the page was libelous and defamatory and took steps to remove the assertions of criminal conviction and made it clear that Jett had earned his Harvard MBA on schedule with the Harvard MBA Class of 1987.

The love triangle between Jett, Cox and Leonardo and now the ebb and flow of the New Jersey Family Court custody battle between Leonardo and Jett are being played out on this Wikipedia page. So if anyone goes back and reviews the archives, you will note that this is personal not in the least bit scholarly. Jett does not edit this page as he is threatened with imprisonment and the loss of his children in New Jersey Family Courts if he dares assert his own innocence despite being a public figure.

Comix and I have taken properly referenced material so that Jett is fleshed out. The efforts to have this page ignore Jett's present business, the impact of race, or the media juggernaut in GE that accused him is nonsensical. Likewise for anyone to champion an organization so clearly incapable of justice as the SEC the single arbiter of justice is incredible.

Please add your own properly referenced material to this page and do not remove ours.

Relief03082011 (talk) 18:46, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

First off, please read WP:OWN. Especially the following: "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." A checkuser request has been completed on both Comix and Relief, showing that they came from the same IP address, as well as one other user. I have no ill will against yo, Mr. Jett. This article must remain encyclopedic. If you believe it is defamatory, please contact an administrator with your concerns. But do not re-add your unencylopedic and promotional material again. --Manway (talk) 18:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Just a note to say this issue has been raised at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:36, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Biography of Living Persons Complaint

I received a message from the fellow who removed our additions to the Joseph Jett page. I include it here in hopes that you will actually look at what was added, what was deleted and the references used and the fact that the SEC was contacted regarding the unreferenced post which was the only one that Comix deleted. And of course we have the same IP address we are sitting two feet apart.

Dear Manway, I notice from all the comments that anyone posting a favorable article must be Mr. Jett. Please do not be juvenile.

I filed a complaint with the biography of living persons as to our edits. We fleshed out the Jett article from properly referenced major newspapers and magazines after a black history month look at black pioneers on Wall Street. I do not understand your beef. The article championed the SEC without noting that the SEC has a 94% conviction ratio. Is that not pertinent information? We sourced the SEC report so how can there be criticism of that.

Jett's color certainly played a roll in this affair. We cited from major newspaper articles about the impact of race. You say that this is not scholarly? We added that GE own NBC and did a story on Law & Order based on Jett. AGain what is your issue with this? We used IMDB as the source. The media power of GE certainly played a role in the Jett case. How is this not a pertinent addition?

You should not have the right to remove anything that does not support your particular bias. We certainly did not. We did talk to the SEC. They knew nothing of a 2009 SEC investigation, but did send us to their website for the conviction ratio table. Since the 2009 SEC investigation had no reference cited and the SEC knew nothing we removed it. How is this not scholarly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Relief03082011 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 8 March 2011 Relief03082011 (talk) 20:52, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

What was the BLP violation in the timeline?

Manway, what was the BLP violation in the timeline? I found that to be the most informative part of the article. Can it be restored with just the BLP violation edited out?

Also, I do find it odd, as another user pointed out, that Jett's position at Jett Capital is the lead in the introduction. Jett is famous for his Kidder Peabody fraud. I googled "jett capital" and there is nothing except Jett's own website.

On another note, those two high school kids who share an IP address sure know a lot about Jett and his ex-wife's custody battles! Curious, that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.26.207.92 (talk) 12:36, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Also Manway, I think the January edits from "Code3663" you are going to find came from the same IP address. The stuff put in then (in a Jan 18 edit) is just more Jett puffery, and this edit also removed some valid, referenced stuff. Maybe the page could be restored to pre-Jan 18, with whatever edits you think need to get it in compliance with BLP policy? Your choice. But when I go back to a pre-Jan 2011 version of the page, it has much much better information than before Jett started editing again. Thanks for the help!