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*I have restored the part relevant to Taras Bulba. The long unrelated text probably belongs to [[Anti-Polish sentiment]] or [[November Uprising]] but not here. [[User:Alex Bakharev|Alex Bakharev]] ([[User talk:Alex Bakharev|talk]]) 01:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
*I have restored the part relevant to Taras Bulba. The long unrelated text probably belongs to [[Anti-Polish sentiment]] or [[November Uprising]] but not here. [[User:Alex Bakharev|Alex Bakharev]] ([[User talk:Alex Bakharev|talk]]) 01:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== Xenophobia section ==

This section is a mess. Since, I did not do the research that built this section, I'm not sure of even where to begin to clean it up. The first paragraph contains a quote that never closes, and puts quotation marks around the title of a novel, which does not need to be named since that's what the entire article is about.

The second paragraph appears to be a copy and paste of someone's high school term paper (note the MLA parenthetical citations). Furthermore, the contents of the paragraph seem to relate to Gogol's works as a whole, rather than specifically on Tara Bulba. Also, I can only assume it is not meant to be in the box.

In my humble opinion, this section needs deletion or expansion. Regardless, it needs to be cleaned up. Ideas?--[[User:Brendanmccabe|Brendanmccabe]] ([[User talk:Brendanmccabe|talk]]) 16:14, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

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Dating?

Can anyone supply dating for the story of Taras Bulba? In other words, when is the action set? Gogol doesn't say, and I haven't been able to figure this one out. (But then, my knowledge of the history of that time and place is VERY bad.) With the major motion picture coming out later this year, I'm guessing people will be coming here to get additional information. User:Wes Clark 19 Feb 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.207.242.4 (talk) 13:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anytime from late XV century to early XVII :) and not a particular date - this novel is deliberately anachronistic 195.218.211.18 (talk) 04:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't it between 1657 and 1686, during "The Ruin"? Ukrain#The_Ruin--94.226.48.10 (talk) 08:33, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See / hear

The article mentions that During the execution, Ostap...calls out to his father, asking if he "can see this?". I recall (from reading the English version in about 1975) that Ostap asks his father if he can hear what is going on. I have one copy in Russian, which reads:

  - Батько! где ты! Слышишь ли ты?
  - Слышу!

The direct translation to "hear" seems more appropriate.Mike Shepherd 21:19, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Another ballet was written about Taras Bulba

The German/Russian composer Reinholt Gliere also wrote a ballet titled "Taras Bulba" but it is less well known than the Janacek.

65.190.4.236 20:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If this is relevant and accurate then it belongs on the article page (not on this "Talk" page).Mike Shepherd 13:14, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Section removed entirely, incl. 7 book refs

Hard to say, what feels even more surprising: that, or the edit summary: "The rant not directly connected to Taras Bulba" The book wasn't written in a vacuum, Alex, that's why some background was important. Any thoughts from the community? — Qarabaş (talk) 00:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Polish sentiment in the context of November Uprising

Poland lost its last vestiges of independence in 1795 and remained partitioned for 123 years by the Russian Empire, Kingdom of Prussia, and the Habsburg Monarchy. Following the November Uprising – an armed rebellion against the Russian imperial rule – the Poles became the subject of an official campaign of discrimination by the authorities.[1] "Practically all of the Russian government, bureaucracy, and society were united in one outburst against the Poles" – wrote Russian historian Liudmila Gatagova.[1] It was in this particular context, that many Russian writers including Gogol, began to accuse the Polish nation of betraying their "Slavic family".[2][3] The Tsarist anti-Polish campaign, which included confiscation of property,[4] executions, and mass deportations of Poles to Katorga camps,[5] was accompanied by the propaganda scheme directed toward the gaining of public support. "Rumor mongers informed the population about an order that had supposedly been given to kill [...] and take away their land."[1][6] Polish schools and universities were being closed in a stepped up campaign of Russification. In addition, Nicholas I established an occupation army at Poland's expense.[5]

Hostility toward the Poles became prominent in many of Russia's literary works and media of the time,[7] especially with the emergence of the Panslavist ideology. Even prominent Russian writers started to voluntarily participate in the anti-Polish propaganda effort,[3] which intensified with the publication of Taras Bulba, only four years after the suppressed Polish uprising. According to sociologist and historian Vilho Harle, inadvertently, Gogol's accomplishment became "an anti-Polish novel of high literary merit, to say nothing about lesser writers."[3]

Xenophobia section

This section is a mess. Since, I did not do the research that built this section, I'm not sure of even where to begin to clean it up. The first paragraph contains a quote that never closes, and puts quotation marks around the title of a novel, which does not need to be named since that's what the entire article is about.

The second paragraph appears to be a copy and paste of someone's high school term paper (note the MLA parenthetical citations). Furthermore, the contents of the paragraph seem to relate to Gogol's works as a whole, rather than specifically on Tara Bulba. Also, I can only assume it is not meant to be in the box.

In my humble opinion, this section needs deletion or expansion. Regardless, it needs to be cleaned up. Ideas?--Brendanmccabe (talk) 16:14, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]