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::::Fine then ignore the Holocaust article and just say what the source caption for the piocture says. If I comment on inconsistencies in the application of guidelines I cannot but by extension be commenting on the editor who applies them in this way. If this causes embarrassment it is a metter for yourself. If I continue to feel that you are seeking to alter every edit I make applying guidelines in a selecvtive/inconsistent way I will be bound to suspect that you are seeking to discourage me from editing wikipedia at all and will take this up with an administrator. [[User:Hardicanute|Hardicanute]] ([[User talk:Hardicanute|talk]]) 09:20, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
::::Fine then ignore the Holocaust article and just say what the source caption for the piocture says. If I comment on inconsistencies in the application of guidelines I cannot but by extension be commenting on the editor who applies them in this way. If this causes embarrassment it is a metter for yourself. If I continue to feel that you are seeking to alter every edit I make applying guidelines in a selecvtive/inconsistent way I will be bound to suspect that you are seeking to discourage me from editing wikipedia at all and will take this up with an administrator. [[User:Hardicanute|Hardicanute]] ([[User talk:Hardicanute|talk]]) 09:20, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

:::::I would write this privately if I had an email for you but can't find one. I don't know whether you have to be appointed as a 'recent changes controller', but I have reported your actions to a very senior administrator who I found agreed with me against a multitude of more junior editors. Your actions don't come across to me as designed to be constructive but rather to deter me from editing. [[User:Hardicanute|Hardicanute]] ([[User talk:Hardicanute|talk]]) 09:43, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

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Wedding Ring picture caption

The source describes the rings as taken from victims but not necessarily from Holocaust victims. According to the Wikipedia article on the Holocaust the Holocaust refers exclusively to jewish deaths. Those who died at Buchenwald were according to the wiki article Buchenwald by no means exclusively Jewish, so as per the source and common sense the caption shouldn't talk of victims of the HolocaustHardicanute (talk) 21:38, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where does the Holocaust article say it refers exclusively to Jewish deaths?   — Jess· Δ 00:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It says it in the lead. I clicked on the image and found the source. You are presenting yourself as a more experienced wiki user and assuming an air of authority here and elsewhere and yet you don't know this basic procedure it seemes odd. Please don't revert without checking sources Hardicanute (talk) 00:47, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I checked the wiki article - it says it in the opening sentnce. I suggest you check before reverting. Hardicanute (talk) 00:49, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I asked you where in the article it said that because I was hoping you'd read the lead... particularly the third sentence: "Some scholars maintain that the definition of the Holocaust should also include the Nazis' genocide of millions of people in other groups, including Romani... Soviet prisoners of war, Polish and Soviet civilians..." That article goes on to discuss these groups in detail, with sources. Further, wikipedia is not a reliable source, and what the Holocaust article has to say has little bearing. We need to use actual reliable sources to found our wording, not original research. Lastly, please stop commenting on other editors, and keep discussion focused on article content, per WP:PA. Thank you,   — Jess· Δ 08:12, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fine then ignore the Holocaust article and just say what the source caption for the piocture says. If I comment on inconsistencies in the application of guidelines I cannot but by extension be commenting on the editor who applies them in this way. If this causes embarrassment it is a metter for yourself. If I continue to feel that you are seeking to alter every edit I make applying guidelines in a selecvtive/inconsistent way I will be bound to suspect that you are seeking to discourage me from editing wikipedia at all and will take this up with an administrator. Hardicanute (talk) 09:20, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would write this privately if I had an email for you but can't find one. I don't know whether you have to be appointed as a 'recent changes controller', but I have reported your actions to a very senior administrator who I found agreed with me against a multitude of more junior editors. Your actions don't come across to me as designed to be constructive but rather to deter me from editing. Hardicanute (talk) 09:43, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]