Talk:Comparison of shopping cart software

Cost

I do not think it is a good idea to put the cost on the page. 1) prices change, who will keep this list up to date 2) prices for other countries will be different (exchange rates and local taxes). Wikipedia is not a US only site. --triwbe (talk) 13:02, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree with triwbe. Also I question the utility of a list filled entirely of "no"s, like the last 3 on the page. -FrankTobia (talk) 19:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_(PHP) has pricing on and this is a similar page. -Craigbrass (talk) 08:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

that doesn't mean a thing WP:WAX. That article may also need changing then. --triwbe (talk) 07:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Pricing allows the user to view one of the key details if they are to use this page as a comparison. --Craigbrass (talk) 17:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay I'm not so sure about the pricing information anymore, but my concern about the "no"-filled tables still stands. On the other hand, I do want to laud Craigbrass for his hard work on this article. I find his diligence rather impressive. -FrankTobia (talk) 04:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. I think it shows clear areas where carts could be improved.--Craigbrass (talk) 14:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I have added spaces for features to be entered into now (phew, that took a while!). I have set all to No for now. I should be able to slowly populate them in the next few weeks when I get time but feel free anyone else who wants to lend a hand! --Craigbrass (talk) 14:34, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I think prices should stay. They may not be accurate, but at least you get a ballpark figure.

AgoraCart

How and why did AgoraCart get left out of this comparison? This article has been extremely helpful in comparing the software offerings listed however my webhosting service defaults to AgoraCart which has been around for quite a while yet is barely mentioned only in the comparison of web hosting control panels article. Could I get a little help here?

Is this encyclopedic?

I have had this discussion in another AFD comparing software, and I am not sure this article fits policy. The products listed are not every product made, thus indescriminate, As each new version comes out, the old data is obsoleted (comparing hardware doesn't have this issue), which flies in the face of notability isn't temporary. Listing "features" is problematic as one product may be the only one to have it, and they all have thousands of features, so how can you draw the line? If each product is notable on its own, then let it have an article. This looks too much like a shopping guide to shopping carts AND something a magazine should do, NOT an encyclopedia. Yes, similar software comparison articles exist, I just haven't gotten to them yet. I need some rationale to avoid AFD. Because this isn't properly inline cited, it also borders on original research PHARMBOY (TALK) 16:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Interspire Shopping Cart already 4.0

Hello, I came across this article and noticed that Interspire Shopping Cart is still listed as 3.6 although it is currently now on version 4.0 and I see that it now has many of the features it was missing. I am not one for editing but I thought I would put the word up for anyone else that is helping maintain this page. Cheers. (70.112.241.85 (talk) 01:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC))

Magento

Hello, I've noticed that one of the (quite popular) shopping carts called Magento is not included on the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.61.32.135 (talk) 13:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Magento is part of the first table but not of subsequent tables. It would be nice if someone with the time to edit could add in magento informaiton UnkleFester (talk) 22:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

OFBiz

What about Apache OFBiz? I landed this page in hope to find a comparison between ofbiz and others, but no luck... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.223.99.76 (talk) 09:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Free / commercial usage

There are two versions of Magento: -Community (free) and -Enterprse As seen on http://www.magentocommerce.com/product/compare most features are NOT in the free version. So is it possible to get these features (e.g. other templates) for the free version, too? Seems this wiki is speaking about Magento Enterprise? Or did -Community have features, which were removed later; is that possible with the license?! Please also send your answers to andreas2 (_at_) logic.univie.ac.at, I don't look at this page too often! thanks!

Comparison Result / Rating

Perhaps (I know, this it not a forum) but if you know these shopping carts in detail, could you tell me which is the best / are ratings meaningful?)

• nice-looking, easy to administer,
• having gifts (VIA EMAIL) or different prices for usergroups, btw BonusCards/Codes for individual users (which comes out to the same)
• and are not too complicated (I don't want to learn php in detail for that...)

- Please paste your answer also to andreas2 (_AT_) logic.univie.ac.at

thanks a lot for your answers! Andrew

Features -- in general

Many of the headings could use an explanatory note below the table. What is the difference between a product rating and a product review? What is a cloud search? Some are obvious and self-explanatory, but others are ambiguous or terms that apply only to one or two specific products. Whoever maintains a specific product's entry should have an understanding of what 'yes' or 'no' really means in that column, so that it's a level playing field. Should "free" be implied for "Addon" entries, if no price is given, or should it explicitly say "free Addon"?

I went through and alphabetized each table so that by default the tables come up in the same order. Please make an attempt to add new products in alphabetical order, just so it's easier for readers to find what they're looking for. Yes, I know there's a sort up/down button, but how many readers know what it is? I also removed dead links (product pages) in the row headers and inserted missing rows (products) with n/a (not available). If no one can or will update a product that is mostly "n/a", perhaps that product should be removed (is basically an advertisement)?

As noted elsewhere on this page, there are many fine products with no entry. I didn't think it right to add product names with no information at all (all "n/a"). Phil 69.206.71.141 (talk) 18:54, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the need for explanations of the headings, whether as notes below the lists or in a location like this page for maintainers to keep consistency. Some headings are ambiguous enough that it can be uncertain whether a product's feature "is" or "is not" available, like "WYSIWYG Editor" - for which part(s) of a site?.

Whether "free" should be implied by "Addon" seems a matter of taste, but a policy should be set, published and kept. I tend to think "free Addon" is not too verbose and will allow instant comprehensibility. Gjh42 (talk) 19:12, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

International

Very please, add columns with some "international capabilities" (as could be e.g. changing currency; multi-currency; selecting other language; multi-language support; (pre)setting of TAXes (not only usa of course); changing shipping things (in some country one easy mathematical rule is the best effort compare to complex shipping gateways);).

And it would be fine to have listed other payment methods: C.O.D. and money transfers.one Jan 88.101.231.247 (talk) 11:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Ubercart

What about Ubercart (module(s) of Drupal)? Jan 88.101.231.247 (talk) 11:14, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

iNETstore

I've noticed iNETstore has been left out, and should be included in the tables if this is an encyclopedia. Also, PayPal has a tremendous range of third-party shopping cart software on one of their pages. I think this may be quite useful to determine which shopping carts are authority and reputable carts and should form a basis for further inclusion into this article.

Xavier xlpt (talk) 08:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

PA-DSS Certification

The July 1st Phase 5 deadline is here. Most people considering an ecommerce solution are going to want to accept credit cards on their website, which requires PA-DSS certification as of the phase 5 deadline. Sure would seem this would be a critical feature to include in the list.

Background information on the Payment Application Security Mandates is available at the following URL: http://usa.visa.com/merchants/risk_management/cisp_payment_applications.html#anchor_3

The list of Validated Payment Applications is available at the following URL: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/security_standards/vpa/

MikeRandolph (talk) 23:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

VirtueMart

Hello, Thanks for the chart, extremely useful! VirtueMart is also missing from the list. It has a HUGE following as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Originia (talk • contribs) 05:01, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

page too long?

quote: This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably. Please consider splitting content into sub-articles and using this article for a summary of the key points of the subject. (April 2010)

I disagree. I have no problem understanding that each table is comprehensive and on a separate aspect. Breaking the article into separate pages will make getting information more not less difficult.

--Leafgreen (talk) 20:28, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Notability/verifiability of entries

I Wikilinked all entries in the first of the table, which shows very clearly that few of the products have Wikipedia articles. Many "comparison of..." or "list of..." articles state clearly that only entries with articles should be included, in order to make sure that the information is verifiable, and the entries are actually notable enough. Wouldn't it be reasonable to implement that here as well? WP:V is kinda sorta important, after all, and if there is no notability requirement, this kind of article can attract spam quite easily. --bonadea contributions talk 10:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Free/Commercial Visual Separation

I'd like to suggest perhaps highlighting free software and commercial software differently, as on the Comparison of download managers page. It helps to be able to see what is free and what is commercial at a glance. Thoughts? --NJAldwin (talk) 14:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)