Talk:George Raft

George Raft had no Italian ancestry and he was born in 1901. See George Raft's Fabled Italian Ancestry I won't bother changing it on the article page because it will just get changed back. Questors 15:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I recall reading that George Raft owned a casino in Havana, Cuba at about the time of the revolution that overthrew Fulgencio Batista. That seems worth mentioning. Dick Kimball (talk) 14:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Without a cite, this wouldn't be much more than rumor. I've heard that Raft was a host for a Havana casino, but never heard he owned one. He had next to nothing, money-wise, in the late 1950s-early 1960s, so I've got my doubts. Monkeyzpop (talk) 00:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Raft was a casino greeter. This has been documented in many places - most recently in T.J. English's "Havana Nocturne."Dick Kimball may been given information confusing Raft with Frank Sinatra, who (also according to T.J. English)had expressed a desire to obtain an interest in a Havana casino. EddieAlbania (talk) 00:20, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Additional information. Raft was a greeter at the Capri Casino. (Investment in the New Cuban Tourist Industry: A Guide to Entrepreneurial Opportunities, page 5. Miller & Henthorne -- this information can be viewed in Google Books). Both Miller & Henthorne and T.J. English relate variations on the story of Raft saving the Capri's casino from being trashed by an angry mob on New Year's Eve/Day 58-59. Quick summary: Mob arrives; Raft addresses mob; mob recognizes Raft and doesn't trash Capri's casino.EddieAlbania (talk) 06:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I checked Ancestry.com several times, and Raft is on the 1910 Census as being 8 years old. He isn't listed on the 1900 Census with his parents, and only his sister appears on the 1900 Census. The 1900 Census states that his parents were married in 1896.``stutzey

He is not even listed on the 1900 Census:

ncestry (Shoebox). This record has been added to your shoebox. 1900 United States Federal Census about Conrad Ranft Name: Conrad Ranft Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York Age: 24 Birth Date: May 1876 Birthplace: Mass [Massachusetts] Race: White Gender: Male Relationship to Head of House: Head Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's Birthplace: Germany Spouse's name: Eva Marriage Year: 1896 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 4 Residence : New York City, New York, New York Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Conrad Ranft 24 Eva Ranft 23 Katie Ranft 8

On the 1910 Census, it DOES NOT state that he was born in 1895 but in 1901:

cestry (Shoebox). This record has been added to your shoebox. 1910 United States Federal Census about George Ranft Name: George Ranft [George Rauft] Age in 1910: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1902 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Name: Conrad Father's Birth Place: Massachusetts Mother's Name: Eva Mother's Birth Place: Germany Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Conrad Ranft 36 Eva Ranft 34 Kate Ranft 18 George Ranft 8

His Social Security card states he was born in 1901 also. The New York City Birth index too.```` I can order the records from Ancestry.com to show my work, and I can also get a copy of the birth record to verify my references. These are legitimate records. I have been doing genealogy for years, and I did check the site the original poster mentioned. I checked all the records the site mentioned, and they seem to be valid. Anyway, it does make a researcher wonder. Thank you. Stutzey (talk) 10:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Birth Year

Here is his Social Security card: 1901!

Social Security Death Index about George Raft Name: George Raft SSN: Last Residence: 90212 Beverly Hills, Los Angeles, California, United States of America Born: 26 Sep 1901 Last Benefit: 91209 Glendale, Los Angeles, California, United States of America Died: Nov 1980 State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951) Stutzey (talk) 02:02, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Sister Eva "Katie" Ranft Birth Record

She was born April 18, 1896, so there is no way Raft was born in September 1895: Katie is listed as being born in April 1896 also on the 1900 Census. https://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_655994601%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D Stutzey (talk) 02:02, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

1900 Census for Raft Family

George was not even listed on there except for his sister Katie Ranft. His parents list having 2 children, and one had died: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#givenName=conrad&searchType=close&placeId=22&alivePlaceLoc1=New%20York%2C%20United%20States&surname=ranft&p=recordResults 1895 is not his birth year, because it wasn't born yet.Stutzey (talk)

Ordering Birth Certificate for George Raft

I am tired of some people changing his birth year to 1895 when I have posted documents that already prove that Raft was born in 1901. Therefore, I am ordering his birth record for genealogy purposes.Stutzey (talk) 16:42, 3 January 2011 (UTC) As per Wikipedia is not a collection of lists, I have reduced the Filmography section of George Raft (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) to just the films that have Wikipedia articles, and renamed it to Selected filmography ... people can click the IMDb External link that follows the section to see the subject's full filmography with links to information about each of their films.

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I have also used [[19xx in film|19xx]] tags for the years of the films, since [[19xx]] has little encyclopedic value.

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I am placing this boilerplate message on this Discussion page before I actually make the changes, so that I can just put "see Discussion page" in the edit summary, and hopefully not have my edit summarily reverted as vandalism by Some Other Editor.

Happy Editing! — 72.75.110.142 (talk) _{10:21, 17 March 2008 (UTC)}

Quit changing his birth year to 1895. I have already proven that he was not born in 1895!stutzey