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Pages for schools/colleges within BU

Some of the colleges and schools (listed in the "Colleges and Schools" category) should really have their own pages. Particularly CGS and MET (2 programs within MET have their own pages, but MET itself does not). These are important parts of BU and have notable alumni. Hbomberman (talk) 21:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Methodist affiliation

I'm unable to find any sources stating that Boston University has a current affiliation with the Methodist church, I can find many mentions of it historically, but several that state it isn't the case currently. Could I get some clarification? Falcon8765 ^(TALK) 00:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, please check the ones that are in the article now. They are current sources. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 02:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Anupam, every link you used is an outdated source. I will detail why the links are outdated below. The sources I use are the most up to date, from the government and, school itself. bowjangles

Your links.

3.) Separated brethren: a review of Protestant, Anglican, Eastern Orthodox & other religions in the United States". Our Sunday Visitor.^[1]These do not state the proposition that BU is affiliated with the Methodist church whatsoever. It merely suggests that there is a Methodist seminary in Boston, and makes no mention of the University itself. Additionally, the author fails to state any supporting evidence to back up her proposition.

4.) "Boston University". International Association of Methodist-related Schools, Colleges, and Universities (IAMSCU).^[2]I have several complaints about this source. First, it is outdated. Second, the source does not state the proposition that BU in its entirely is methodist school. It only states that historically the school of theology within the school is associated with the methodist church. It does not go to state the entire university is affiliated with the church.

5.) "United Methodist schools score high in rankings"^[3] This source is outdated from 2004. This source also does not state that BU is at all affiliated with the Methodist church. There is a major difference between being related and being affiliated with which I believe is the source of your confusion. Related means having some sort of past contact or past interaction with(Which is true in the case of BU, originally founded as a methodist seminary but this is no longer the case). Affiliation means that the school administration has officially received permission from the church to establish a school based on the church's teachings. BU does not fall under the category of being affiliated with the church.

6.) "Cambridge University Student Union International 2003-2004" ^[4] The author makes an assertion with no support for his assertion what so ever. He makes a statement, and does not cite any sources as to where he obtained the information to make his opinion. This can not be used as a verifiable source.

My Links.

3.) http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=boston+uni&s=all&id=164988#general This is the official department of education report compiled by the United States government about Universities. Universities are required to submit information to the government for the government to compile their report. The government report clearly states that the University's religious affiliation is not applicable. Meaning that BU has no religious affiliation. Additionally, this source is unbiased and should be held in higher regard than the sources you state from methodist books and methodist websites.

4.) http://www.topuniversities.com/institution/boston-university This website is run by QS a nonprofit that ranks universities from around the world. The website states that BU is non-sectarian which means having no religious affiliation. This report was released in 2011 which is more recent than any of the links you give for support.

^ "Separated brethren: a review of Protestant, Anglican, Eastern Orthodox & other religions in the United States". Our Sunday Visitor. 2002. Among Protestant denominations, Methodists take first place in hospitals and colleges. Some of their one hundred colleges and universities have all but severed ties with the denominations, but others remain definitely Methodist: Syracuse, Boston, Emory, Duke, Drew, Denver, and Southern Methodist. The church operates three hundred sixty schools and institutions overseas. Methodists established Goodwill Industries in 1907 to help handicapped persons help themselves by repairing and selling old furniture and clothes. The United Methodist Church runs seventy-two hospitals in the United States. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |= ignored (help)
^ "Boston University". International Association of Methodist-related Schools, Colleges, and Universities (IAMSCU). Retrieved 2007-06-30.
BOSTON UNIVERSITY
Dr. Robert A. Brown, President
One Sherborn Street
Boston, MA 02215
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Main Phone: (617) 353-2000
Fax: (617) 353-3278
Primary Email: rabrown@bu.edu
Web: http://www.sthweb.bu.edu
Denomination: United Methodist
Year established: 1839
Student enrollment: 31,698
Baccalaureate
Post-baccalaureate {{cite web}}: External link in |quote= (help); line feed character in |quote= at position 5 (help)
^ "United Methodist schools score high in rankings". The United Methodist Church. Retrieved 2007-06-30. Other United Methodist schools on the top national list are Syracuse (N.Y.) University (tied for 52nd); Boston University (tied for 56th); Southern Methodist University, Dallas (tied for 71st); and American University, Washington (tied for 86th).
^ "Cambridge University Student Union International 2003-2004". The Hermit Kingdom Press. Retrieved 2007-06-30. OEmory University, an academic institution of higher education that is under the auspices of the United Methodist Church (Duke University, Boston University, Northwestern University are among other elite universities belonging to the United Methodist Church).

[William_Joseph_Whalen_-_Hospitals_&_Universities-1] "Separated brethren: a review of Protestant, Anglican, Eastern Orthodox & other religions in the United States". Our Sunday Visitor. 2002. Among Protestant denominations, Methodists take first place in hospitals and colleges. Some of their one hundred colleges and universities have all but severed ties with the denominations, but others remain definitely Methodist: Syracuse, Boston, Emory, Duke, Drew, Denver, and Southern Methodist. The church operates three hundred sixty schools and institutions overseas. Methodists established Goodwill Industries in 1907 to help handicapped persons help themselves by repairing and selling old furniture and clothes. The United Methodist Church runs seventy-two hospitals in the United States. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |= ignored (help)

[IAMSCU-2] "Boston University". International Association of Methodist-related Schools, Colleges, and Universities (IAMSCU). Retrieved 2007-06-30.
BOSTON UNIVERSITY
Dr. Robert A. Brown, President
One Sherborn Street
Boston, MA 02215
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Main Phone: (617) 353-2000
Fax: (617) 353-3278
Primary Email: rabrown@bu.edu
Web: http://www.sthweb.bu.edu
Denomination: United Methodist
Year established: 1839
Student enrollment: 31,698
Baccalaureate
Post-baccalaureate {{cite web}}: External link in |quote= (help); line feed character in |quote= at position 5 (help)

[BU_&_UMC-3] "United Methodist schools score high in rankings". The United Methodist Church. Retrieved 2007-06-30. Other United Methodist schools on the top national list are Syracuse (N.Y.) University (tied for 52nd); Boston University (tied for 56th); Southern Methodist University, Dallas (tied for 71st); and American University, Washington (tied for 86th).

[ReligiousAffiliation-4] "Cambridge University Student Union International 2003-2004". The Hermit Kingdom Press. Retrieved 2007-06-30. OEmory University, an academic institution of higher education that is under the auspices of the United Methodist Church (Duke University, Boston University, Northwestern University are among other elite universities belonging to the United Methodist Church).

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 :Sure, please check the ones that are in the article now. They are current sources. I hope this helps. With regards, [[User:Anupam|Anupam]]<sup>[[User talk:Anupam|Talk]]</sup> 02:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
-Hi Anupam, every link you used is an outdated source. I will detail why the links are outdated below. The sources I use are the most up to date, from the government and, school itself. [[User:bowjangles|bowjangales]]
+Hi Anupam, every link you used is an outdated source. I will detail why the links are outdated below. The sources I use are the most up to date, from the government and, school itself. [[User:bowjangles|bowjangles]]
 Your links.