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Joe Napora: "I never recanted anything. But I have always had doubts about Rafinesque. Anyone would. One of my plans, one that will never be realized, is to do a book on Rafinesque. I see him as a sort of European trickster figure. I also had serious reservations about working with the Walam Olum if it was a part of Delaware sacred ritual. Of course it's not always clear in a tribal culture what is sacred and what is not since there is not that clear (and false) division that we have in western cultures. Joe Bruchac assured me that it wasn't, and he, too, had reservations about Raf. But, if the question is, do I think that the Walam Olum as reported (reconstructed or even constructed) by Rafiinesque to be a viable reflection of Delaware culture, then yes I agree. Did Raf create parts of the WO? Almost certainly. I think that he was trying to impose a syntax where it was not in the originals. I think that people, like Oestreicher, placed way too much emphasis on the narrative structure, which, I believe, Raf put in order. If the question is is the WO as represented by Rafinesque a real translation of original graphics in the order that he received them, that were given him by that Doctor Ward who may or may not have existed, I don't think so. Perhaps I'm just splitting hairs in order to not take a stance one way or the other, but it's a stance that seems besides the point. And I don't think that the point has been clarified. I also question the good faith of Oestreicher. I am familiar with the texts that you mention below, except for The Book of Wild. What does that that have to offer? |
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There is a lot of unacknowledged and seemingly unrecognized prejudice against native American texts. A scholar like Dewdney is rare. One like Oestreicher is common. " |
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::::'''This is proof that Oestreicher was wrong when he stated that napora "recanted" and his statement casts Oest work into doubt. BAD FAITH to continue the conquest against Native Americans.''' |
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== June 2010 == |
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[[File:Information.svg|25px]] Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at [[:Walam Olum]]. Your edits appear to constitute [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] and have been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]] or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-vandalism2 --> ''IP changed lead to make it contradict the article'' [[User:Dougweller|Dougweller]] ([[User talk:Dougweller|talk]]) 19:41, 26 June 2010 (UTC) |
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:''If this is a shared [[IP address]], and you didn't make the edit, consider [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|creating an account]] for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.'' |
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''': Stop your obstructive actions immediately. The vast majority of information pertaining to the Walam Olum does not square with the contradictory views and personal opinions presented. |
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::Some more of these reliable sources include: |
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::1. American Literature History, Andrew Newman, 2010 |
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:::"In what is probably the capstone of the Walam Olum’s publication history as an authentic |
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:::document—postdating Oestreicher’s debunking—it appears |
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:::as the longest selection of the Multilingual Anthology of American |
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:::Literature: A Reader of Original Texts with English Translations |
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:::(2000), edited by Marc Shell and Werner Sollors |
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::::Dennis Tedlock ... comparing it to apparently related forms such as |
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::::the Ojibwa Midewin Birchbark scrolls |
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::2. The multilingual Anthology of American Literature by Shell and Sollors, 2000 |
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::3. McCutchen's The Red Record, 1993 |
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::4. CA Weslager's The Delaware Indians, 1972''' |
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:::::Yawn. Andrew Newman agrees with Oestreicher's debunking, for a start, and you changed the lead to contradict the article (eg to remove the bit about it provoking controversy, controversy clearly shown and cited in the article) - vandalism. [[User:Dougweller|Dougweller]] ([[User talk:Dougweller|talk]]) 04:30, 27 June 2010 (UTC) |
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:::::::NPOV - Assert facts, including facts about opinions—but do not assert the opinions themselves |
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==Your recent edits== |
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[[Image:Information.svg|25px|link=]] Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to [[Wikipedia:Talk page|talk pages]] and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should [[Wikipedia:Signatures|sign your posts]] by typing four [[tilde]]s ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button [[File:Insert-signature.png|link=Wikipedia:How to sign your posts]] located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-tilde --> --[[User:SineBot|SineBot]] ([[User talk:SineBot|talk]]) 14:06, 27 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== October 2011 == |
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Please do not edit my user page. Ever. That was merely a collection of linkss for my own reference, and was not copyrightable. [[User:Heironymous Rowe|'''<span style="color:White;background:darkBlue">He</span>''']][[User talk:Heironymous Rowe|'''<span style="color:darkBlue">iro'''</span>]] 03:03, 27 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:Considering you are [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AMarburg72 indefinitely blocked at this acct] I suggest you stay off my user page and not draw so much attention to yourself. Thanks. [[User:Heironymous Rowe|'''<span style="color:White;background:darkBlue">He</span>''']][[User talk:Heironymous Rowe|'''<span style="color:darkBlue">iro'''</span>]] 03:10, 27 October 2011 (UTC) |
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User Heironymous_Rowe and Doug Weller are constantly commiting Wikihounding, harassment and continued Personal Attacks. Please stop! |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Heironymous_Rowe |
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I have warned this user and Doug Weller to stop their personal attacks and wikihounding. It has continued since 2007. |
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They constantly cite my personal website and webpage on thier page. This information is copyrighted. |
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I have no interest in further discussion and wish to exercise my right to vanish. They may not use my copyrighted website on theirs. |
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See following links for the evidence of this personal attacks. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AHeironymous_Rowe&action=historysubmit&diff=457596593&oldid=457596131 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErgative_rlt&action=historysubmit&diff=437350197&oldid=436635168 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AWalam_Olum&action=historysubmit&diff=437350127&oldid=437350107 |
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== October 2011 == |
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[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=|link=]] This is your '''only warning'''; if you [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalize]] Wikipedia again, as you did at [[:User:Heironymous Rowe]], you may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further notice'''. <!-- Template:uw-vandalism4im --><!-- Template:uw-cluebotwarning4 --> [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 03:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC) |
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<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> [[Image:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left|alt=|link=]] You have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' temporarily from editing for [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|abuse of editing privileges]]. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|make useful contributions]]. If you would like to be unblocked, you may [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block|appeal this block]] by adding the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx" argument. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here ~~~~''}}, but you should read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]] first. </div><!-- Template:uw-block --> 03:46, 27 October 2011 (UTC) |
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::They are indef blocked here [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AMarburg72 Marburg72]], under their named acct., this is one of about 3 IPs xe periodically pops up on. [[User:Heironymous Rowe|'''<span style="color:White;background:darkBlue">He</span>''']][[User talk:Heironymous Rowe|'''<span style="color:darkBlue">iro'''</span>]] 03:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Oh goody, now I'm getting nice little emails. Can we get that revoked too? [[User:Heironymous Rowe|'''<span style="color:White;background:darkBlue">He</span>''']][[User talk:Heironymous Rowe|'''<span style="color:darkBlue">iro'''</span>]] 03:56, 27 October 2011 (UTC) |
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::::This is published for educational purposes at no cost. Please do not reproduce without permission. Copyright 2008 Vince Barrows All rights reserved. |
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:::::Revoking own talk page access might be a good thing too. :) - [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 04:23, 27 October 2011 (UTC) |
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