Talk:Seborrhoeic dermatitis

"has yet to be proven"

"A suggestion that seborrhoeic dermatitis is an inflammatory response to this yeast has yet to be proven." But its source proved that seborrhoeic dermatitis is not a response to Malassezia furfur; the article does not take account of this fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.10.158.158 (talk) 23:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

"Seborrheic dermatitis is not caused by an altered immune response to Malassezia yeast", reference #6....is from 1998 and is OUTDATED. It is no longer true. Malassezia IS the cause: http://www.pgbeautygroomingscience.com/role-of-lipid-metabolism-in-seborrheic-dermatitis-dandruff.html

Malas. species are the cause (probably), though this has been a cause of contrversy for over a century. The exact mechanism is open to question.Jackfirst (talk) 20:01, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Dog skin disorders?

One of the links on the bottom of the page is to Dog skin disorders, which is not only a stub, but I think also an inappropriate link from a page about a skin desease in humans. I am of the opinion that it should either be removed, or that links to all other types of skin deseases in animals be linked, too. Sedola 14:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Added major brand names of some of the listed drugs to easier assist readers in locating and identifying them. -Markarian

Soap In seborrhea

Soap is not harmful in SD, in fact, cleansing the skin of oil reduces the risk of outbreak. Although the condition appears a "dry dermatitis" it is in fact one that occurs in oily areas. M. furfur is an lipophilic bacteria and that is one of the reasons it is believed that M. furfur has some role in SD.

The notion that soap might exacerbate the condition is perhaps a misidentification of SD as eczema which is a dry skin disorder. The reference to SLS and soap should be removed from this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.209.149 (talk • contribs) 18:24, 6 June 2007

- As someone who actually suffers with SD (confirmed by numerous dermatologists), I can assure you that soap _can_ be very harmful. I have had mild to severe reactions to various soaps. I can't even shave certain parts of my face (the "goatee" area mostly) because most shaving creams cause a reaction. Of course, this is not the case for everyone. I'm just on the extreme end of the spectrum. Even topical steroid treatments don't help me. The point is, however, that the soap comment needs to remain. The statement is true and properly qualified with a "may". It doesn't say or even imply that everyone with SD "will" get a flare-up from soap, just that it's a possibility. Every dermatologist I've seen said this is not very unusual with SD.

External links

External links to chat boards, blogs, and personal webpages are normally not accepted on Wikipedia. Links need to be "encyclopedic in nature," which means they link to places which provide organized, detailed, verified information. An online discussion group with patients, no matter how helpful you think it is to patients, is never an appropriate link for encyclopedic information. Please read the external links policy and the specific rules for medicine-related articles before adding more external links. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Questions

Do you want me to get a picture of seborrheic dermatitis or the hair loss due to seborrheic dermatitis? I can take a picture of a flake of seborrheic dermatitis if the option of a glob in hair or under the eye is to disturbing.

71.142.214.138 (talk) 04:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)Cardinal Raven

ooh please do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.24.207.77 (talk) 06:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Changes to seb derm

Mostly, I did grammatical changes, introducing no new information. Anyway, it should not have been speed-reverted without discussion here or maybe even without reading. Very unwikilike and against the rules. I'll quote them if anybody likes. But this should not be necessary. Jackfirst (talk) 00:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Correlation to ZNF750 gene polymorphism

I found this in the uniprot.org protein database. It would explain the cause of Seborrhoeic dermatitis as genetic defect. Is this of any relevance?

--Johnny Wezel (talk) 14:16, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Split

Here's the original rationale for the split proposal (added 14:40, 8 June 2010) by 187.105.0.153:

"SD and seborrhea are used interchangeably here but they are not the same thing."

Any thoughts? Waldir ^talk 02:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Previously there was a three-paragraph discussion on this, which was subsequently removed. The last part covers it fairly well. Re-instated as follows: 41.141.205.252 (talk) 17:20, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Seborrhea has been defined as 'a condition in which overactivity of the sebaceous glands causes the skin to become oily'. Dermatitis is a skin condition characterised by inflammation and flaking. The name 'seborrhoeic dermatitis' self-evidently means dermatitis (inflammation) caused by (or believed to be caused by) sebum. It is quite possible to have greasy skin without inflammation. As far as I am concerned they are SEPARATE (if related) conditions. This article should not use the two terms interchangeably to refer to seborrhoeic dermatitis. It should be split either into two articles or at least into two sections within the one article, with the distinction made clear.

I think the page does not necessarily need to be split, but if it is left as it is, the term 'seborrhea' should not be used to refer to seborrhoeic dermatitis. 41.141.205.252 (talk) 17:20, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

"Seborrhea" is a symptom, basically "oiliness", though this is not a complete description. "Seborrheic dermatitis' is a medical condition. It is also true that sometimes docs use them interchangably as shorthand, but generally in a context where the meaning is clear. Jackfirst (talk) 20:07, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

"Seb derm" term of art

Physicians often refer to seborrheic dermatitis as "seb derm". I suggest incorporating this into the article. Jackfirst (talk) 21:41, 25 October 2011 (UTC)