User talk:Jehochman

Too many noticeboards?

See Wikipedia:Noticeboard proliferation noticeboard. Jehochman ^Talk 19:58, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

LOL. It's about time someone does something about this! A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:08, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't know exactly what to do, but I started a blank page. Feel free to scribble upon it. Jehochman ^Talk 20:14, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Do you want to make it an essay or a faux noticeboard? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I'd go with faux. Jehochman ^Talk 20:27, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

1 user likes this. :) AGK [•] 20:40, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Self service

Hi Jehochman. I'd ask you don't ever post on my talk page again unless it is specifically to raise a complaint due to an admin action of mine that you have an issue with. If it's related to anything else use talk pages of articles, meta discussion etc. . You sir, in my opinion, use Wikipedia to simply further your own business. I don't like you, I think you're a nasty piece of work frankly, and I certainly don't want to lower myself by interacting with you. Given that, I also consider myself barred from your user talk as well - not that it's much of a loss. Pedro :  Chat  21:40, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

You are welcome to post here any time you like. And no, I don't use Wikipedia for self-promotion. It is a hobby. My business would be better off if I didn't spend time here, and instead focused on work. Whoever you've been chatting with about me has fed you a bunch of nonsense, and you apparently have swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Your post above and recent posts at WP:RFAR are a disgrace to admin corps, and I suggest that you reconsider what you are doing here. Jehochman ^Talk 02:35, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Wow, Pedro is an admin? Weird. But I suppose it could explain why he's got a practically clean block log, while users like Malleus and Giano can't sneeze without being blocked. Bishonen | talk 16:59, 4 December 2011 (UTC).

Yes. I had to check the RFA archives to be sure. Funny thing is I have never said or done anything to Pedro to warrant such malice. He seems to be bearing somebody else's grudge. Jehochman ^Talk 10:43, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Closure of RfC

Hi Jehochman. I agree with your point of view on Badger Drink, I do not think he should be indeffed either and I have said as much. However, I do not think that it is appropriate for the RfC to be closed whilst discussion is ongoing at ANI. Badger Drink has stated quite clearly that he does not wish to participate, so nothing has changed now that he can't. What's more, both Bwilkins and I have commented at WP:AN suggesting that it should not be closed. Would you mind undoing that action, at least until some sort of consensus has emerged at the threads? Worm^TT · (talk) 12:15, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I'd also like to point you to Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct/Closing, which gives 3 situations where an RfC/U should be closed and I don't see that this fits any. Worm^TT · (talk) 12:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I think it is bad form to conduct an RFC when the subject can't comment. In arbitration a user is always unblocked so they can participate. The operative word is "can". They of course may choose not to. If BD is unblocked, the RFC can be resumed. Jehochman ^Talk 14:03, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

BD has refused declined to comment at his RfC/U, and there's no are reasons to assume he would now. Instead, he (and others) now attack those who participated in good faith through other channels. I don't concur with everything Jehochman has done on this, but I certainly concur with the closure as having been carried out according to policy as resolved through another process: blocking - which has its own due process for appeals thus rendering the RfC moot. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:40, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Irony

Disappointing to see Scott M removing criticism of himself again. Ironic to see the issuer of the Badger Drink civility block using "dick" in an edit summary removing criticism of his actions. I've been back about a day and already see poor admin behaviour (not yours)... this place can be so discouraging. EdChem (talk) 13:43, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree. The whole affair stinks of a "disrespecting your betters" punishment. Jehochman ^Talk 14:05, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it's ironic isn't it? I totally agree with Scott's removal of that sick and disgusting fake barnstar, and if I hadn't been involved I would have done it myself - it's the epitome of nastiness that will drive truly industrious editors away from Wikipedia. That said, I'm letting you know also that I consider the comment you left at User talk:ThatPeskyCommoner#Baiting to be just further baiting and unjustified admonishment of someone whose performance as an editor you've not cared to gauge against what Badger Drink has offered the project. As far as the blocks of BD are concerned, if I had stumbled on his unblock request with no previous knowledge of the affair, from a totally neutral standpoint I would possibly have blocked him indefinitely for gross incivility, blanked and revdel'd the template, notified the arbs and oversighters of my action and hoped there would be a key that could be thrown away. It's the most despicable string of abuse from a so called 'regular' editor I've seen in all my time and edits edits here. Others who have expressed righteous indignation against the block clearly appear to support the notion that incivility is a normal and accepted behaviour to be practiced with impunity - and with still more irony appear to be supported in that belief by some admins. All very discouraging indeed. -Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:24, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Kudpung,

You misread what we have written. I have not seen anybody excuse incivility. In fact, most of us have signed "outside views" noting a problem with occasional incivility from BD, who growls with style when he comes across plagiarism or purple prose.

Let us hope that the barnstar of decapitation may be retired! :)

 Kiefer.Wolfowitz 17:07, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Sven Manguard

I am seriously concerned that Sven Manguard is archiving sections prematurely, and massively overstepping his authority. He had earlier determined that your request for a checkuser was unfounded (I diasgree), and then determined that the section regarding Scotty Mac's hypocritical incivility would not result in any admin action. He is not an admin. I further note that he is obviously a returned user of some sort (cf. first edit, then immediately to the automated template adding).

What do you think I should do? Hipocrite (talk) 15:49, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Nothing yet. Let's see if friendly chat can help. Jehochman ^Talk 18:23, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Apparently not. I still recommend walking away from this situation so that everybody has a chance to de-stress. Jehochman ^Talk 06:05, 6 December 2011 (UTC)