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Categories
Josh, you may not realize this, but all material contributed to articles should be attributed to a reliable source. I notice you have been adding a lot of categories, but there is no source to support these additions, and in some cases, there's nothing in the article to mention it. For example, how is anyone to know whether William Holden was an "American congregationalist"? Because you say so? Please read through WP:RS. If you add something like this to a category, please make sure you have a reliable source, and then add a sentence or two to the appropriate part of the article, noting the source. Otherwise, don't add it. You're obviously getting this information from somewhere, but if you don't provide a source, how are the rest of us to know if your source meets our definition of reliable or not? Thanks Rossrs (talk) 14:06, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hello. You're missing the point. I acknowledged that you were getting the information from somewhere. I never suggested, or even thought, that you were making it up. The problem is this - it's not in the article. Do you seriously expect everyone who reads the article should drop you a note asking where you got the information from? You should read WP:RS and you should ensure that whatever information you add is cited in the article. LucyWho fails as a reliable source. Scroll to the bottom of the page where it says "disclaimer" and you will see "LucyWho.com content is contributed and edited by our readers. You are most welcome to update, correct or add information to this page." That's not reliable. I could go on there and add that he was a Martian, if I was so inclined. Wouldn't make it true though, and it wouldn't justify anyone adding that to his article here. Anyone can add anything they want to LucyWho.com, and there's no evidence of fact checking. You should absolutely not use this as a source.
- By the way, if I leave you a message, you can assume I have your page watchlisted, and if you reply on your own page, I will see it. That saves having a conversation spread between two user talk pages, where it becomes hard to follow. Also, you can sign your name at the end of your message by typing four tildes. That is, ~~~~ That also makes it easier to follow the discussion. Rossrs (talk) 14:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
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Again, stop adding unsourced categories
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- The above is a standard warning template. I wouldn't even have issued that if you had not already been told about adding unsourced categories. Everything on Wikipedia must be reliably sourced to meet the standard of verifiablity. The article does not have a reliably sourced statement that Gardner was Catholic; thus your addition of the Catholic category is unsourced. Additionally, your most recent addition is weakly sourced; if you read the footnote in the source, it simply states that she went to a Baptist church as a child; it does not state that she "self-identified" as Baptist. In short, your first edit was entirely inappropriate, although I do believe you made the edit in good faith. The second and third edit, although less of a policy violation, has some problems. Please try to find a better source, or simply leave out any information about her religion. Finally, when someone tells you about a policy, as was done before you received my warning, take it seriously and read the links that are in the warning. You didn't do anything "bad", but do try to learn from your mistakes. Thanks. Cresix (talk) 17:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Copyrighted images
I'm not trying to pick on you, just help you learn. Images of a living person that are copyrighted generally should not be added to bio articles on that person without permission. It violates United States copyright law. A copyrighted image can be used in some cases to illustrate a movie or TV character (not the actor), but the assumption is that a non-copyrighted image is possibly available for a living person even though you may not have one yourself, so any copyrighted image of that person does not fall under the fair use justification for its use. I know this may sound a bit complicated, but the easy way to avoid a problem is to never add a copyrighted image of a living person to that person's bio article. That's very likely why the articles to which you added images didn't already have an image. Thanks. Cresix (talk) 17:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
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- Josh, you're just not getting it. Images on websites are assumed to be copyrighted unless stated to be otherwise. There are exceptions, but you do not seem to be understanding how to deal with them. If you continue, you are bound to be blocked, because this is legally important. The best advice I can give you is to (a) learn about image policy or (b) stop unloading images altogether. Rodhullandemu 23:25, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
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Comment on admin's page
I'd previously deleted some categories you'd added, and after you re-added them, I posted on your page. You blanked my comment and again have been re-adding the comments. Please see comment on Rodhull&emu's page. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 13:11, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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Categories, again
Please do not ignore the pointers given to you earlier at User talk:Josh_Rumage#Categories. Your unsourced category additions, good faith or not, are becoming rather disruptive. Nymf hideliho! 21:20, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
October 2010
Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Claudette Colbert. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Cresix (talk) 17:20, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Religious denomination categories
On Wikipedia a person must self-identify with a particular denomination before being categorized; and the only way to know if they self-identify is a source indicating that the person is currently Catholic (or Baptist, or atheist, or whatever). That standard is frequently violated because many people think they can put anything about a person's religous beliefs in an article without reliable sourcing. That is what is unsourced in the article, and it is a policy violation to place the category unsourced in the article. If someone grows up an atheist but is now a Christian (see William J. Murray), do we put that person in the "Atheists" category?" MANY people grow up in a particular denomination (or lack thereof in Murray's case) but do not end up claiming that perspective when they are adults. This is a simple matter of following one of the very cornerstones of Wikipedia: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." Claudette Colbert may very well have been a Catholic as an adult, but the article doesn't state that. If you want to restore the category, please find a sourced statement to that effect. And remember, the responsibility for sourcing is on the person who adds or restores information. Thank you. Cresix (talk) 20:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I see. I'll have to look and see if I can find something that claims that.
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Please do not add or change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did to Dorothy Morris and many other articles. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and WP:RS. You commented on Morris' talk page "Her father was a Methodist minister and she herself is still a Methodist based on that." This is explicitly not evidence of a person's religious practice as an adult. Parent's religion or the religion of a childhood home has no bearing on later belief. Please also review WP:BLPCAT, which states "Categories regarding religious beliefs and sexual orientation should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief or orientation in question; and the subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant to their notable activities or public life, according to reliable published sources." This means that we should not be adding information on person's religious beliefs to an article unless there is strong reasons or relevance to their public life. To re-iterate, the default position of Wikipedia is to not add this info in respect of individuals privacy. Thank you. Span (talk) 23:09, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Rodhullandemu 23:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/48px-Appointment_red.svg.png)
Josh Rumage (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I kindly ask of you to repeal the block that you have set upon me. I didn't mean to violate the Wikipedia policies in terms of religious categories as well as photo uploads. I want to contribute to Wikipedia as much as I can as so many people look upon it everyday for various sources of informaton and with my block in tact I have no way to do that at the moment. I will just have to re-read your policies so that I can re-evaulate my perspective on how you want things done around here. I apologize for the frustration, violation, and disruption that I have unintentionally caused and I ask that you accept my apology and unblock me. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Decline reason:
I'm glad that you've re-read the policies. However, you don't explain your understanding of those policies, or how you will edit differently in the future, so there's nothing in this request for me to review. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:51, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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Josh Rumage (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I didn't realize that I had to specify the things I read, I will now prove to you that I read the material so that you can reconsider. For example; in Wikipedia:Citing Sources your policy asks that sources must include the following: ensures that the content of articles can be checked by any reader or editor shows that your edit is not original research ensures that material about living persons complies with biography of living persons policy avoids claims of plagiarism and copyright violation helps users find additional information improves the credibility of Wikipedia?UNIQ72d77f067aac883a-nowiki-00000017-QINU?1?UNIQ72d77f067aac883a-nowiki-00000018-QINU?. If the information dosen't have a source it is subject to be challenged and removed, especially if it is on a page focusing on a living person. When I read you article on Wikipedia:Images you state in your Uploading Images section that that "only free licensed media, not fair use media, be uploaded to Wikipedia Commons"?UNIQ72d77f067aac883a-nowiki-0000001A-QINU?2?UNIQ72d77f067aac883a-nowiki-0000001B-QINU?. I confess that I had unintentially run into violation of that from time to time but by reviewing more of this I may be able to do it correctly if I am able to upload in future depending on my block removal. I just want you to know that I enjoy editing here on Wikipedia and I have a lot to contribute. Wikipedia was built on such a foundation like that and from time to time a lot of people, not just myself, we'll find ourselves adding information that may be challeged and it will make you question the source. But if we can add information that is more reliable and reputable we can make Wikipedia stronger in it's credibility. Won't you please re-consider my block repeal and let me rejoin the millions who want to help Wikipedia as much as they can? In the future I will need I will need to review my sources before I add them onto Wikipedia and I know that just because someone was raised in a certain religion as a child does not meant that they are of that same religion now. I should not have said that Dorothy Morris or Rue McClanahan were Methodists as I never really had concrete information to attest to it since I quickly found that you don't consider blog entries a reliable source. I won't upload images without consulting a Wikipedia professional who has done it before. I promise to improve, I just need another chance and I've got a lot to give here on Wikipedia. After all I did create nine articles for Wikipedia and I would love to do more as I want to support Wikipedia as much as I can.
Decline reason:
This might have been enough to convince an admin to speak to the admin who blocked you and discuss an unblock, but the block evasion you have engaged in makes it difficult to trust what you say. You will now need to address that concern as well. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
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