Talk:Intrusion Countermeasures Electronics

Origin

The line The term was popularized by William Gibson in his novel Neuromancer and, according to the New Hacker's Dictionary, originally coined by Tom Maddox. seems needlessly convoluted. William Gibson states this in his book Neuromancer:

My thanks to Bruce Sterling, to Lewis Shiner, to John Shirley, Helden, and to Tom Maddox, the incentor of Intrusion Countermeasures Electronics. And to the others, who know why.

I propose rewriting the explanation in the article. Moreover the term was not just popularised, that is where it was published, since Tom Maddox does not seem to have publised that originating story yet. --09:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.94.15 (talk • contribs) 04:53, 24 April 2006

Black ice

Black ICE btw is ICE created by AI's. 18:48, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.74.100 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 23 August 2007

No, it isn't. In most cyberpunk, "black ICE" is ice that will physically harm hackers. —Lowellian (reply) 05:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 05:02, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Hackers or crackers?

shouldn't 'accessed by hackers' be changed to 'accessed by crackers'?

according to definitions on wiki itself, hacker and cracker are 'dynamic' applied terms, just like one can be either proffesional theft, or theft because he just stole something.

--83.12.255.234 (talk) 11:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Babylon 5

I recall the term was used in one episode of Babylon 5, the episode where Ivonova's father was dying. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:05, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Dystopia

"ICE walls" are also used as a security program in Dystopia. --38.100.221.66 (talk) 00:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Real world usage

The following is in the main article:

Though real-life firewalls and similar programs fall under this classification, the term has little real world significance and remains primarily a science fiction concept. This can be attributed to the fact that using the term "electronics" to describe software products (such as firewalls) is somewhat of a misnomer.

This is not true at all. There are dedicated actual physical hardware devices (ubiquitous in most medium to large organisations, regardless of industry) that contain implementations of IDS/IPSes, Firewalls and the like. A physical electronic device that has the sole purpose to thwarting/detecting intruders would definitely qualify as an ICE. I wanted to get a consensus with some of the other wikipedia editors prior to amending the article.

115.70.220.178 (talk) 22:37, 12 January 2012 (UTC)