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The POV of this and the ARA article are fairly clear and the slant on facts being pushed is reasonably well supported and objectively presented with one exception. The [[Soviet Union]] didn't even exist on paper until December 1922, the country was in chaos for some years after the revolution due to [[Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War|forces which international capitalism supported]], that this action was part of that attempt to reverse the revolution is already stated, that the same forces that contributed by those attempt to the famine needn't be. I've redacted all mention that these actions were assistance to the Soviet Union because this demonstrably false, the document forming the union was signed on 30 December 1922. Obviously it would take a few months at least for institutions of the Union to form and thus the Union and the operation of the ARA are distinct in time except for this overlap. Typically it takes some time between the nomination of a revolution-born polity and its establishment as such (13 years from the US Declaration of Indepedence to ratification of the Constitution), the Soviet Constitution wasn't ratified until 1924, etc. etc. [[Special:Contributions/72.228.177.92|72.228.177.92]] ([[User talk:72.228.177.92|talk]]) 17:13, 23 January 2012 (UTC) |
The POV of this and the ARA article are fairly clear and the slant on facts being pushed is reasonably well supported and objectively presented with one exception. The [[Soviet Union]] didn't even exist on paper until December 1922, the country was in chaos for some years after the revolution due to [[Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War|forces which international capitalism supported]], that this action was part of that attempt to reverse the revolution is already stated, that the same forces that contributed by those attempt to the famine needn't be. I've redacted all mention that these actions were assistance to the Soviet Union because this demonstrably false, the document forming the union was signed on 30 December 1922. Obviously it would take a few months at least for institutions of the Union to form and thus the Union and the operation of the ARA are distinct in time except for this overlap. Typically it takes some time between the nomination of a revolution-born polity and its establishment as such (13 years from the US Declaration of Indepedence to ratification of the Constitution), the Soviet Constitution wasn't ratified until 1924, etc. etc. [[Special:Contributions/72.228.177.92|72.228.177.92]] ([[User talk:72.228.177.92|talk]]) 17:13, 23 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:It is less a question of “POV” but of the fact that the ARA article is too short to give enough information for a discussion. There is missing simple information as the transition of the ARA in the ARA European Children’s Fund (ECF). Concerning the ARA Russian Unit: It has been clear from the very beginning on that the Russians would have to pay for the grain with Tsarist gold − and they did it with gold worth $ 12 million. ----[[Special:Contributions/130.83.117.163|130.83.117.163]] ([[User talk:130.83.117.163|talk]]) 20:55, 26 January 2012 (UTC) |
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The POV of this and the ARA article are fairly clear and the slant on facts being pushed is reasonably well supported and objectively presented with one exception. The Soviet Union didn't even exist on paper until December 1922, the country was in chaos for some years after the revolution due to forces which international capitalism supported, that this action was part of that attempt to reverse the revolution is already stated, that the same forces that contributed by those attempt to the famine needn't be. I've redacted all mention that these actions were assistance to the Soviet Union because this demonstrably false, the document forming the union was signed on 30 December 1922. Obviously it would take a few months at least for institutions of the Union to form and thus the Union and the operation of the ARA are distinct in time except for this overlap. Typically it takes some time between the nomination of a revolution-born polity and its establishment as such (13 years from the US Declaration of Indepedence to ratification of the Constitution), the Soviet Constitution wasn't ratified until 1924, etc. etc. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 17:13, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- It is less a question of “POV” but of the fact that the ARA article is too short to give enough information for a discussion. There is missing simple information as the transition of the ARA in the ARA European Children’s Fund (ECF). Concerning the ARA Russian Unit: It has been clear from the very beginning on that the Russians would have to pay for the grain with Tsarist gold − and they did it with gold worth $ 12 million. ----130.83.117.163 (talk) 20:55, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
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