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Premier Marinas

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SPAM article about a non-notable company. Of no encyclopaedic value. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 00:54, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

• Delete. Having been raved at for calling David, the author a spammer, I dare not use the word here. Indeed David's COI may actually be limited to the fact that he keeps his boat at one of their sites. But I still say delete - no attempt made to demonstrate notability. David probably cannot try "other stuff exists" - how many other marina companies have articles? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:27, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

"SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM". Sorry Monty Python. . -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 01:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:35, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Again I have asked for guidance, none is forthcoming, I have to disagree with the 'no attempt to demonstrate notability comment', I have included as referrence an article from the Yacht Harbour Association (an independent body) discussing the award of Gold Anchors to a number of Marinas operated by Premier, also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Village_%28marina%29 for an wiki article regarding another unconnected marina, I feel that your approach to content is completely subjective is damaging to the objective of Wikipedia as an open platform that requires new contributors in order grow. --Dcbreeze (talk) 09:33, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your helpful comments and guidance both, I have added further references from established boating publications featuring Premier Marinas --Dcbreeze (talk) 22:35, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

• Keep – The article has been copy edited to minimize promotional tone. This topic passes WP:GNG:

Significant coverage:

• "Premier marinas keep Gold Anchors". Boating Business. September 1, 2005. Retrieved April 20, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
• Campbell, Stewart (May 9, 2007). "Team Premier competes in '24 Peaks Challenge'". Motor Boats Monthly. Retrieved April 20, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
• "Premier celebrates 30th Used Boat Show". Boating Business. September 1, 2009. Retrieved April 20, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
• "Premier launches berthing commissions scheme". Boating Business. December 1, 2009. Retrieved April 20, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
• "Premier to launch Gosport dry stack". Boating Business. May 4, 2010. Retrieved April 20, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
• "Further accolades for Premier with'Five Gold Anchors' in the Yacht Harbour Association's Gold Anchor Scheme". British Marine Federation. March 1, 2012. Retrieved April 20, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
• Nineham, Laura (March 30, 2012). "Open days at Premier's south coast marinas". Yachting and Boating World. Retrieved April 20, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
• Melotti, Robert (April 12, 2010). "Premier sells brokerage business to Ancasta". Yachting Monthly. Retrieved April 20, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)

Coverage beyond a passing mention:

• Petit, Marchand (October 21, 2000). "Investment that's a shore thing". The Telegraph. Retrieved April 20, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help); Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
• "Innovative Dredging Project Improves Access". Maritime Journal. July 1, 2004. Retrieved April 20, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)

—Northamerica1000^(talk) 10:35, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

It is easy to find refs for companies so it is easy to say they pass WP:GNG. Doesn't mean they should have a WP article. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 09:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

• The topic also passes WP:CORPDEPTH. Northamerica1000^(talk) 12:19, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

To Alan and RHaworth, it is, it seems, also easy for you to continue to find spurious excuses to delete perfectly acceptable articles, we have demonstrated that the article complies with WP guidelines on promotional content and that Premier Marinas pass the WP guidance on notability. I have yet to see any genuine justification for your continued negative input. Of course it is easy to find articles on notable companies (that is the point), are you in fact saying that companies, notable or not have no place on WP? In which case I suggest that you submit a case to the relevant authorities for the removal of all commercial organisations from WP, I suspect that you will find that you don't get very far, as companies and businesses are a reality and have an impact and influence on real people in the real world, so excluding them will leave a huge hole in the objectives and purpose of WP. So can I also suggest that you stop trying to create a walled garden of WP based on your own subjective opinion of other peoples contributions and start contributing some notable and objective content yourself.--Dcbreeze (talk) 17:30, 22 April 2012 (UTC)