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Ten Years

On 2015 Jan 1, I joined the Wikipedia Ten Year Society.
Will I make it for another ten?

Archives[edit]

Deletion of D. Ray Heisey[edit]

Dear Colleague, You have deleted D. Ray Heisey for copyright infringment. I wish you gave us enough time to remove the copyrighted material. Would it be possible to give me that opportunity? — Esmatly (talk) 04:47, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Who are "we"? Corporate accounts are not allowed. You may have all the time in the world to fix the text. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:59, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Dear RHaworth, it seems an intercultural misunderstanding has happened. I am Iranian and it is not uncommon for the Iranians to use "us" to refer to "me." And, I am a real person; I teach media studies and I do not represent any corporation. By first message, I meant to ask you to restore the page, so I could remove the copyrighted material, which was not inserted by me.Esmatly (talk) 20:06, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Text emailed. Work on it on your own machine until the copyvio is fixed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:26, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
  • The text was corrected and emailed back to you. Please help us restore the page, and we will work further on it.Esmatly (talk) 13:12, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

John Peck (poet)[edit]

Hello Roger, My name is Steel Wagstaff. I'm writing because I noticed that the John Peck (poet) for the American poet John Peck was deleted by you in December 2012. I was wondering if you'd be willing to check on the page's status and/or restore the page, so that a small group of Peck's readers can edit/improve it. Peck is a real poet, and of real significance, and justly deserves a Wikipedia page, which I (and some others) would be willing to begin building when the page is restored. Many thanks, Steel — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteelWagstaff (talkcontribs) 15:36, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

  • If you are willing to begin building a page, presumably from scratch, why do you need me to restore the old page? Just get on with creating a new one. I have emailed you the deleted text. You will find some refs at User:Greenbuick/John Peck (poet). To avoid disappointment, I advise you to create via the AfC process. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:26, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Request to rewrite deleted article[edit]

I wrote the article Food Neophiles: Profiling the Adventurous Eater but it was deleted due to copyright infringement (I asked that it be deleted upon discovering this, so thank you!) I want to re-write the article without any copyrighted material, so can I proceed with this? — Roxydog13 (talk) 13:55, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Please learn wikilinks and capitalisation standards. You have already re-created it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Cloud Global Ltd[edit]

I had recently added my company to Wikipedia as its of interest to the aviation industry up here in Scotland. I can reference the information to local press articles however I see you deleted it, did I do something wrong? Regards Graeme Frater

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Source of a short deleted page.[edit]

I want to see the Category:Video games with something about chicken soup page pasted/e-mailed to me. Thanks! Now I've gotta play them all. (talk) 14:13, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

PV2 Grey U. Culbreth[edit]

Can you please send me the text from PV2 Grey U. Culbreth. Thank you, Eric Pease — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.25.235.61 (talk)

  • "Found his calling as an angel to those truly in need" - just the sort of encyclopedic language we love. Read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:17, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture Deletion[edit]

[Title width guide. Delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.]

CompanyDude test Templates[edit]

Could you please revert the deletion of the two draft templates that are listed User:CompanyDude/Templates. They have no notability because they are drafts. Thanks --The Man Of Companies... CompanyDude (talk) 19:39, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Wikipedia is not a free host for the documentation about your operating system. Even if your draft article gets accepted, I cannot see any possible justification for your templates. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:26, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

The KratOS Operating System is not my operating system and also revert the KAS article —–The Man Of Companies... CompanyDude (talk) 16:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Wait! Do you have any buisness deleting a user's sandbox articles? [Yes, they are sandboxes] and I'll re-create the KAS sandbox article --The Man Of Companies... CompanyDude (talk) 16:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Don't get too confident. Please read the rules for U5 deletions. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:03, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Europe Prize[edit]

Hi Roger, May I put up a defence of my use of the material appearing on this draft page, recently deleted by you? Draft:Europe Prize. The Council of Europe, the 47-nation international organisation for whom I work, allows the material on its websites to be used in accordance with this policy: http://www.coe.int/en/web/portal/disclaimer

That states that reproduction of material posted on Council of Europe websites is authorised for "informational and educational uses relating to the Council of Europe’s work", subject to the condition that the source be indicated and no charge made for reproduction. Both conditions are fulfilled in this case, and therefore I submit that my draft entry is fully in line with Wikipedia's guidelines. (It's not directly relevant here, but - for info - the CoE page that I quote from was actually drafted by me!). Many thanks for considering these points and, if you consider it appropriate, re-posting my draft. Regards, GAKM GAKM (talk) 14:49, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

  • If the CoE want to release their text, they should use a standard licence such as Creative Commons instead of making up their own. But looking at their policy, I see a "non-commercial" clause which is unacceptable here. You can ask at WT:CP but you will probably get the same answer. In any case: a) it is an insult to fob Wikipedia off with second-hand text. All text should be written from scratch with Wikipedia in mind. And b) it would be better if you left it to someone with less COI than yourself. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. May I have my text back so that I may re-work it along the lines you propose? GAKM (talk) 16:44, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Kunlun Fight Company[edit]

Another variation - do I keep just hitting Db-repost. — Peter Rehse (talk) 16:24, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Please link to an article when you talk about it and, when you apply a {{db-repost}} tag, link to the relevant deletion discussion. To answer your your question, sadly yes: just keep hitting it. The author keeps creating new accounts and new titles. The only solution might be to launch a sock puppet investigation with a view to an IP block but the author is probably clever enough to switch IP addresses. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Nalle Colt - page deletion[edit]

Hi there, I am writing in regards to the page for Nalle Colte which you deleted. Would you mind sending me the text of the page that was deleted? Do you have any specific feedback on how you'd like to see the entry improved? Thank you for your consideration, Sam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sambres8 (talkcontribs)

  • Please learn wikilinks and to sign messages with ~~~~. Nalle Colt was created by wilson.chance.edwards (talk · contribs) and the entire content was "== Nalle Colt ==". The feed back is obvious - write an article (via sandbox) and it may stick. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey, It's Me Again[edit]

Have I been useful enough to get my Russian Hamster Cabal back? If not, will you let me know when I have been? Thank you very much. YoSoyUnHamster (talk) 21:59, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

  • When did I ever make any offer about restoring your childish cabal page? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Number one, it's not okay to insult people, and number two, you said I could get them back when "30% of my edits [were] useful". Your behavior towards me is making me wish I'd never joined Wikipedia in the first place, and if you don't cut it out, I'll leave forever. Trust me, you want me here. Please be nice. YoSoyUnHamster (talk) 21:58, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Also, all I want is to just have them restored back into my userspace. Nothing too fancy. Why is this such a big deal? YoSoyUnHamster (talk) 22:05, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Pete Williamson[edit]

I don't understand why you deleted Pete Williamson, I am new to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeatherGoth (talkcontribs)

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks you are notable and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Undelete and userfy request[edit]

Hello. Would you please undelete and userfy this article to my talk page? I am considering creating this article and want to see what it was before. Thanks. Lakshadweep AIDS Control Society See also User_talk:RHaworth/2014_Apr_11#Lakshadweep_AIDS_Control_Society. — Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:59, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for this. Yes I acknowledge that I keep more drafts in my userspace than most people. I have not started a habit of using the draft: space yet. Thanks for helping me and for encouraging compliance with community norms. I deleted some usersubpages in response. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:37, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

TablEdit and TEFview[edit]

Hi Roger, I hope you can help me. Two wiki pages that I created were slated for quick deletion and were deleted before I had a chance to find out what was going on, let alone respond. First, I am not sure if my e-mail option in Wikipedia is set to "enable e-mail from other users". Just in case, my e-mail address is <redacted> and I will try to make sure that option is enabled...

I am writing to you regarding the pages TablEdit Tablature Editor and TEFview. I would like to know what it would take to get the pages restored and what I would have to do with them to ensure that they meet the criteria to remain on Wikipedia. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Keith. Kgsaturn (talk) 18:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

  • What it would take is: a) these pieces of software becoming notable and b) a person with no COI writing about them. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:47, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Heads up[edit]

User reuploading copyright images you deleted yesterday. Hi I thought you may be interested in this:-

All were uploaded by Angelo542, with other copyright violation images which you also deleted.Angelo542 has now reuploaded two of them, plus a third, with a Public Domain licence under a claim of Uploading a file from a free published source. Having again checked these images they are all copyright, with no evidence of ever being a free published source.

I note there is a query, on his [Page] from Catfish as to if or not he has had permission to upload the File:Duncanclancrest.gif from the copyright holder:- http://www.clan-duncan.co.uk/duncan-crest-badge.html

  • NB: Although the above reuploaded copyright images were deleted this morning, the Editor has again uploaded them, as self made Public Domain, with different names, plus there is an additional one that wasn't noted earlier.
  • 12:17, 26 July 2015 File:Clan Tartan - Duncan Modern.jpg ‎ (Uploading a self-made file using File Upload Wizard
  • 12:09, 26 July 2015 File:Clan Duncan Crest.gif‎ (Uploading a self-made file using File Upload Wizard)
  • 20:33, 25 July 2015 File:Duncan Clan - Coat Of Arms.gif (Uploading a public-domain item using File Upload Wizard) (copied from Heraldry Society website, as stated on file page. Richard Harvey (talk) 12:08, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Comment: Now we have a new twist on the copyright image uploads. He has now created a 'Clan Duncan community' Facebook account, copied the images to that and then reuploaded them to Wikipedia as Public domain free use images from there.

This person is certainly creating an impression of having no intention of editing wikipedia, with concensus or within the ethics of the project. Richard Harvey (talk) 20:49, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Since we are keeping track here: Angelo542's response to his English Wikipedia block was to upload his copyvio to Commons: commons:File:Clan Crest - Duncan.jpg. I tagged it for speedy deletion as an obvious copyvio. Wdchk (talk) 06:01, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Angelo542 has again used these images on the Clan Duncan article to replace others. He appears to be using the article as a soapbox to promote his own claims and preferences about the Clan Duncan. On the Talk:Clan Duncan he was warned about using the article as a soapbox, plus a warning on using a sockpuppet 195.11.166.194 to augment his edits, yet has removed his promotional claim, along with my warnings, which I then replaced, only to find it removed again by him using another Anon IP 89.240.253.93. I have reinstated it with a warning he may be blocked if he continues to remove it. Additionally he has deleted edit warring warnings, by Jmorrison230582 from his own talk page.

He appears to have uploaded blog and commercial sales links as references, in which he may possibly have an interest:- https://www.pinterest.com/txirishmp83/duncan/

I have a bad feeling about the way this editor is going, especially if other Clan Duncan members prefer to have the article promoting their interpretation of issues. Richard Harvey (talk) 19:14, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Dear Richard Harvey. I am new to Wikipedia yes however I am still learning to how to apply edits.

I will say to you sir, I am not using Wikipedia to promote my (own) belief's at all. I am reversing back changes done by a successful fraud. The images I have uploaded are free to the public here in Scotland and are found in multiple retailers across the world, I myself used the clan crest to make my own products. As I have been told the clan crest dose not belong to anyone however I am not creating my own website just to get a copyright on my own Image that is freely used throughout Scotland

The reason I have used commercial sites as tags is to prove that the images are actually the official images for the clan. Mr John Duncan has already been involved in heated debates here in Scotland due to his lack of respect for the Duncan Clan and his self-righteous attitude as a leader. Mr J Duncan has attempted to gain enough support to become the Duncan Clan leader however he has been (refused officially). Mr J Duncan has abused his power and position and created multiple websites to apply his own insignia to an entire Clan.

You are clearly not from Scotland so have not encountered J Duncan or myself at any clan meets. As a member of the Duncan clan and a member of the public I will not stand by and allow false claims on Wikipedia or false insignia. If you would like to advise me on what exactly I need to do to apply the real Crest,motto ect without having any problems then that would be helpful. Removing my images will not stop me from applying the correct insignia to The clan profile here on Wikipedia. A.J Duncan 20:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC) A.Duncan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelo542 (talkcontribs)

  • Richard Harvey, please learn to copy&paste - that way you might get my user name right! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:47, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Angelo542, I will leave it to someone else to block you for your edit to Clan Duncan but if I see any more copyvio image uploads, I will block you again. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:47, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Producer James Worthy[edit]

RHaworth, I recently created a page Draft:Producer James Worthy. I am very new to Wiki so please forgive me, I have been trying to figure out how to provide a link to the article. I am asking for the article to be undeleted. First, the biography that seemed to have been taken from Reverbnation is his official biography, and is expected for wide use and was written by James Worthy. Second, at this time, after speaking to Mr. Worthy, I am prepared to re-write the biography so it does not read exactly like the one on Reverbnation or any other site that it is currently on. Please recover the page so I can repair the problem. I would hate to have to start from scratch. Thank you so much for any help you can provide in this matter. CValrie (talk) 19:55, 26 July 2015 (UTC) CValrie

  • How to provide a link - was it really too difficult for you to put [[]] around the title? Text has been emailed but I ask you and your team to have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks the guy is notable and writes about him here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:47, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Draft: H. Paul Prigg[edit]

RHaworth, Thank you for reinstating my draft: H. Paul Prigg. Also thank you for telling me about 0 chances of acceptance without good references. Mr. Prigg was an off shore speed boat racer on the Atlantic seaboard from the 1920's and 1930's. I have actual (not copies) of newspaper articles about his accomplishments, however some are documented with the name of the newspaper and not the date (only the year) and some are documented with the date and not the newspaper name. I've looked on the newspaper(s) website but nothing comes up that far back. Any suggestions on how others have been successful in referencing this long ago? Thank you! And by the way, I don't think you are a grumpy old man. Sounds like you just want to get it right. nancyprancy12 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nancyprancy12 (talkcontribs)

  • Please learn how to create links and to sign talk page messages. So scan an article and post it to a website whose domain name gives no hint of COI - like this. Then apply OCR to the image, format it as a pretty bit of HTML and post that to the web like this. Google can do its own OCR but it does not harm to help Google so that it will index the page like this. Then use it in your article like this. In fact that article uses at least eight external resources that I created. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:57, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Chrysostome Liausu[edit]

Can you delete this entry "12:51, July 27, 2015‎ KAVEBEAR (talk | contribs)‎ . . (28 bytes) (+28)‎ . . (←Redirected page to Cyprien Liausu)" from the revision history of Chrysostome Liausu. -- KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:22, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

  • There is no edit with that date and time and why on earth do you want an innocent edit like that deleted? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:29, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
It may be because they went ahead and started an article for Chrysostome Liausu and the exact edit they're referring to is this (19:51, July 27, 2015). SwisterTwister talk 19:30, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
  • It would help if KAVEBEAR were to quote proper times including seconds. The one linked to above was done at 19:51:43 and I can see absolutely no reason for deleting it. But during the same minute KAVEBEAR edited:
RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Seeds of Death: Unveiling the Lies of GMOs[edit]

Dear RHaworth, my reply to your remark: No, the trimming was not accidental. Please explain why it is so important that the heading of this section matches the article under discussion. I repeat, try DRV. — RHaworth (talk • contribs) 19:26, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

OK, well simple answer really. I wasn't saying that is was so important or anything. But since you mention it, I do think that the correct article heading is important as there is a book of a similar title. As discussions of this nature are open for other members to contribute to, I believe that passers by will see the title easier. Thanks 08:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Bill Truth (talkcontribs)

Tuesday might not[edit]

I think you were mistaken to delete my Tuesdaymight user page. With all due respect, I know you are a busy contributor doing lots of good work on this encyclopedia. My user page was accused of being "unambiguously promotional", which I insist it wasn't. I just started it today, with one sentence, and one link to a website -- a website that was new to me, and one that I think might be a useful tool for an editor, because I think it searches books through "google books". But it was deemed so "urgent" that my user page be removed that I didn't even have time to defend it -- as I was encouraged to do by the "tag" or by the deletion process. (I wrote a defense of the page -- but I typed too slowly I guess, because as I was responding -- it disappeared.) I have searched Wikipedia articles to find some explanation for what you did, but I can't find it anywhere. So in other words I think my user page was defensible. To conclude: this isn't exactly urgent. I don't need to have a "user page". But I thought I should mention this to you -- in case I might be right, and it might be helpful for somebody to point this out to you. My suggestion would be for administrators such as yourself to slow down and be a bit considerate and deliberate -- because you can be a bit scary to someone who's just trying to start out a user page -- and avoid mistakes. Wikipedia doesn't need to be scaring away editors.

(As I write this I see you have posted a box above to warn editors that you get annoyed when people don't leave a link to an article that is being referred to -- but please understand: I have no article -- you deleted it.) — Tuesdaymight (talk) 18:27, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

  • You are too long winded. I love the confusion: you say "I have no article -- you deleted it" but what do we see immediately after those words? A link in valid format to the page about which you are talking and which still worked before I restored it! I agree - deletion was unnecessary. Restored and blanked. Please work on it offline or in User:Tuesdaymight/sandbox until it actually looks like a user page. I do not blame Gparyani (talk · contribs) for tagging it for deletion. Both he and I create a first impression of a page with a defocussed view. If it does not form right pattern, we are biassed against it before we read a single word. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

So … let me see if I understand what you just said: You erroneously deleted a user page, and the reason the mistake happened is because of “bias”. And you approve of the “bias” you also find in your fellow editor, Gparyani, which led to a similar mistake, of which he was the cause. And if I want to create a user page that won’t be deleted, it appears that I need to “second guess” what a self-described biased and error-prone editor (like yourself) might approve of because he has no intention of avoiding the mistakes he has previously made?

Did I get that right? If so, that is incredibly cynical. Bias has no place here — yet you seem to brag about it. You present yourself and Gparyani (talk · contribs) like the “outlaw editors” of Wikipedia. What ever happened to that younger and more innocent RHworth, who dreamed he might one day become an administrator? What have you done with him? We want him back. I do think there’s room for improvment in your behavior. You had no right to blank my page -- so what did you do with the content that you deleted? Can I have it back? Tuesdaymight (talk) 13:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

  • You are hopelessly long winded. Did you see the words "restored and blanked"? Instead of moaning, I suggest you learn some wiki basics like how to read an edit history. No need to second guess. There are thousands of user pages which no-one would think of deleting and which should give you ideas. Here are two at which I have looked recently: user:YoSoyUnHamster and user:Pigsonthewing. Basically, do not launch your user page until it is a lot more substantial. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:09, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review for Russian Hamster Cabal[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Russian Hamster Cabal. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. YoSoyUnHamster (talk) 21:11, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I believe that this is related to that same issue. I don't think you need to comment but just so you know. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

RSC[edit]

You'll be most welcome at the editathon. See you soon! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:02, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Blocked a sock you raised last year at SPI[edit]

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rktect. Could hardly have quacked louder and when he edited today I decided it was time to block. Doug Weller (talk) 13:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Albanian Airways[edit]

Hello, I see you deleted Albanian Airways. Could you please give me a draft of the article before it was deleted? I need to see the sources used and not start it from scratch. That used to be a natioanal company of Albania, very in vogue in the 1990s until it became defunct. Let me know please. PoshteMorriKuq (talk) 19:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Otilia Bruma[edit]

Thanks for deleting this, but could you please also deal with its creator, who's out of control? Ideally, Otilia (disambiguation) should go, and he should be made to stop messing with Otilia. Thanks. - Biruitorul Talk 23:14, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Regardig Addanki Sridhar Babu Page[edit]

hi , i want to start the page addanki sridhar babu which was deleted ..I have collected more references and citations, and I don't want to do the same mistakes which I have done earlier ..I will complete the article first in the sandbox .. I will show you for your review then I will take it to the mainstream ..

in reference with --"MelanieN (talk) 14:12, 8 July 2015 (UTC)"

--swaroop 17:08, 1 August 2015 (UTC)