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Ten Years

On 2015 Jan 1, I joined the Wikipedia Ten Year Society.
Will I make it for another ten?


The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture Deletion[edit]

[Title width guide. Delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.]

Echoes of a Distant Tide[edit]

Hello. I don't know why exactly you bothered to speedy delete something already in AfD, but okay, you did. The problem was, you deleted it under claims of it being a hoax. Not so. A simple Google search would've proven otherwise. I was going to provide an external link to prove it, but it was in AfD by the time I realized I probably should, and by then I doubted I should even bother.

I don't know why you assume I would spend about 16 hours creating a "blatant hoax", at the expense of my free time and sleep, when I did in fact have better things to do, but I haven't been exposed to many hoaxes here. Actually, I haven't been exposed to any.

I'm not really asking for it to be restored. I'm not even sure if I want to even ask for my code back, which took me a hell of a time cross-checking times and such to live up to proper standards.

I am just simply stating, really, that the delete was unnecessary and wrong, and not in a faux moral sense.

Okay, I do want my code back. Hell if I don't have something to show for it, somewhat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megalandrys (talkcontribs) 02:08, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

  • You may have your code on the strict understanding that it will not be seen anywhere near Wikipedia. Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:02, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I still sort of want to know what the point of deleting it was (and how it was a "blatant hoax", but thank you. Edit: It was all ready, just had to confirm my email, which I have now done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megalandrys (talkcontribs)

  • I agree, hoax was an inappropriate deletion reason. But since {{db-web}} clearly applied, I had no hesitation in deleting. Text emailed. Do not repost here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:56, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Diaoyu Islands[edit]

Hello, I will try to offer all the information you may need; please bear with me as I am not sure if my formatting is correct. My message is regarding this page. I believe you deleted the article, which is about a controversial film that covers the topic of the Senkaku Island Dispute. You deleted it under the A10 rule stating it is a duplicate topic, although it is not. There may have been confusion because, in the page title, I forgot to mention that it is a film.

The topic is relevant because the film caused a media storm in China last year and the film's creator has been the subject of news articles in a number of countries. He is referred to as a hero and a propagandist. The film is well-rated on IMDB (8.3/10) and has millions of views across platforms like Youtube,Youku. etc., which offers credibility to it as a known entity.

I have two main purposes in writing you: 1. I kindly request the page be reinstated, and if any changes need to be made, I will do so. 2. If you still believe the page is not correct, can you please let me know why and return to me the content that I wrote? I'd like to have my writing, and since the page is deleted I don't know how to retrieve it. I appreciate your time! Thank you, Slycat21 (talk) 23:11, 10 August 2015 (UTC) Slycat21

  • I was ready to delete the article before I even looked at it because I view shouting as vandalism. I agree that the movie may well be notable in its own right. So feel free to submit your article via AfC with no shouting in the title. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:56, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 11 August 2015[edit]

Regards Ajaz Naqvi — Preceding unsigned comment added by AzadariAllahabad (talkcontribs) 06:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Copy&pasting large chunks of wikitext is usually pointless. If you do so in a manner which destroys the markup then it becomes vandalism. To do so twice on a user talk page is even more vandalism. If I see you doing any more of it, I shall block you. What you do need to do is: write a short article about Azadari in Allahabad in your own words and submit it via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:56, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

TanZo Passenger Services[edit]

Hello, It is noted the above was deleted. As unaware of the complexities of this information site, can you offer assistance with an entry for Mansfield Train Station? Thank you Derek Scott — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

  • Please read this. Also note that I may refuse to respond if links are not provided to the articles being discussed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Ryan rens[edit]

  • Hello User:RHaworth, I tagged Ryan rens for CSD which was redirected to Ryan rems. Ryan rems was later deleted by you for A7. Somehow the page Ryan rens still exists. I have removed the dead redirect from the page and tagged it for CSD. Can you please delete the page when you have time? Many thanks. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 18:51, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


Hello Mr Haworth. I am working on a project. I saw that I couldn't save my work due to (U5: Misuse of Wikipedia as a web host). I removed all the references right away and then added back on to see which one it was, as it was not easily evident to me. Then I noticed the whole page was deleted. I did remove the offending link immediately. Is it possible that you can restore my written words? I would appreciate it. I am new on Wikipedia as you know. Sorry for the mistake. In Gratitude, Miel Denisemedium Denisemedium (talk) 22:18, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Despite 70 edits over a fortnight, the format of the page was wildly distant from Wikipedia standards. I concluded that you were drafting the text for use somewhere else and therefore deleted it for using Wikipedia as a free host. If you really intended it for here, kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks you are notable and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:41, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Greetings Mr Haworth, This is Miel. Sir, I am not drafting text to be used elsewhere, nor am I not writing about myself. I would appreciate being enabled with a restore so I can finish this project and move on to others. Thank you, Miel Denisemedium Denisemedium (talk) 17:32, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

  • I should really simply block you. If you are not Denise Lescano then you should not be using her name as your user name. Even if you are not Denise, you still have a blatant COI. I suggest you abandon this project for the momemnt and move on to others. With the greatest reluctance I have emailed you your latest text. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:49, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Battle of Pasargad Hill[edit]

If that's copyvio it can't be anywhere, why did you put it in his userspace? — Doug Weller (talk) 20:34, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Please learn to provide links when you talk about pages. Copyvio now deleted. Are you happy with what is left? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Trouting myself, of course I should have. I normally do. Thanks for fixing it. Doug Weller (talk) 16:04, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Charleston Syllabus[edit]

Dear Mr. Haworth, This morning I was asked by the creator of the #CharlestonSyllabus on the African American Intellectual History Society, Keisha N. Blain, Ph.D. Assistant Professor at the University of Iowa in the Department of History, to generate a Wikipedia page for content already listed on the AAIHS website here. The Charleston Syllabus hashtag trended for an entire week on Twitter and attracted more than 10k tweets within days of its debut. This crowd-sourcing project was covered in the LA Times, the Chronicle of Higher Ed, and on NPR and PBS. The page was not removed for lack of notability, but I just wanted to provide you with some contextualizing information.

Due to the nature of the content (detailed lists of books, articles, and other media), the text was flagged for speedy deletion by CorenSearchBot, and because the page was deleted so quickly, I was unable to run the duplication detector or CopyVio in order to view the specific problems with the page. I hope to recreate the page, and would appreciate any recovery that you might see fit to perform. Are you able to help me? Thank you, MoriahRusso (talk) 22:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

  • I saw the horrible shouted section headings and zapped the article on principle. Slovenly is the operative word here - you simply copy&pasted the list and thought you had created a Wikipedia article. No you did not. The list itself is primary, source material which simply does not belong in Wikipedia.
So - write a short article in your own words which links to the list itself and has plenty of references. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:39, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice and straightforward language, as well as for sending the revised text. You're right that the page was sloppy, but it was also incomplete. I get the picture--keep the building to draft pages before posting. I'm relatively new to Wikipedia but am trying to contribute, if imperfectly. MoriahRusso (talk) 19:32, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Taking the piss all day[edit]

Please move the (deleted) page 24-hour urine collection to "Special:Mypage/24-hour urine collection". The article needs to be rewrited in "my own words", but - due to my limited possibilities of writing in English - I need help from other Wikipedians. — Jaceknow (talk) 10:21, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Text emailed. The vital thing missing from the article and which should appear in the first paragraph is the explanation of the benefits of taking a full 24 hour sample instead of a single sample. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:39, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Tim Kerr (musician)[edit]

Is this page where it 'should' be? I 'moved' it: " Leiabox/Tim Kerr (musician) to Tim Kerr (musician):", possibly at the same moment you deleted it? [1]220 of Borg 19:49, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

  • The page at Tim Kerr (musician) is the author's last revision. The only things I deleted were redirects after a mess of page moves. I leave you to judge whether the guy is notable and whether the author has a COI. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:59, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Understood, thanks. 220 of Borg 00:09, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you but HELP[edit]

Thanks for deleting the redirect that looped back into itself aka Talk: List of Yogi Bear characters. Now the actual talk page for the real article List of Yogi Bear characters needs to be established correctly, however I cannot for the life of me remember how to do that. I know it's simple, but could you please save me from trooping fruitlessly through Wikipedia Help/Template/WP pages and establish the talk page?

But wait, there's more! (Funfunfun). I have also just now discovered there is an additional wrinkle...

There are two similarly-named articles.

List of Yogi Bear characters (with this edit history) AND
List of Yogi Bear Characters (which is a re-direct to The Yogi Bear Show with THIS edit history).

Thanks in advance for whatever you can do. Shearonink (talk) 22:21, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


Hello, Julian Penniston-Hill. You deleted a photo that I have full permission to use. It has now been reloaded. Many thanks, Wiki2344 Wiki2344 (talk) 10:59, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

  • The image was of pathetic quality. Please obtain a decent image, available under a {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} licence and upload to the Commons. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:08, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


You deleted the page Adonnis - I humbly ask that you allow me to recreate it as Artist is of significant notability, has been featured on MTV, has worked with other significant artists and has a long list of major releases. Including a new release. — License2Kill

  • Create via AfC. If it gets accepted then unprotection will be uncontroversial. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:08, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

OS coordinate template[edit]

{{OS coord}} is not working for me today because your "os" tool is coming up as "not currently serviced". Is this a situation likely to be fixed, or should we be looking to alter that template to use something else? TIA HAND — Phil | Talk 15:24, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Seems OK today. wmFlabs does suffer from temporary downtimes. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:42, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Sukesh Zamwar[edit]

Respected sir I have created new page on Wikipedia just like previous one Buldana Urban Cooperative Credit Society. So please help me to — Vsdongre (talk) 08:09, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

@Vsdongre: you asked me for advice. I gave you some. Why did you completely ignore it? What do you think my response will be if you ask me for advice again? Please reply. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)


Hi RHaworth, could you please move this article to my userspace so I can finish working on it? Thank you. OrganicEarth (talk) 17:30, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


@RHaworth: Hello, I have created an article with the name Autostrad. The text in the article was available in multiple sites, so I didn't know what site to use as reference so I used any. How is that a copyright infringement? Even if it was, I later re-edited the text into a different form but the page got eventually deleted even after I made a consent explaining my reasons. And now I can't do anything to fix this since the article got locked because it was deleted multiple times, I will do everything so that I can recreate this article. Please help. — Makeandtoss (talk) 20:48, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Create via AfC. If it gets accepted then unprotection will be uncontroversial. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:26, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

@RHaworth: I had spent alot of time preparing the rest of the article (infobox, categories and events) it would be REALLY great if you can provide me with the deleted article's text so I can rearrange it. Autostrad. Thank you. I will begin writing the draft as soon as I receive the text. -- Makeandtoss (talk) 20:29, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Please learn wikilinks and please read this. Also note that {{re}} is not needed on this page! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:14, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Done. Fixed the email and here's the article Autostrad. --Makeandtoss (talk) 14:11, 20 August 2015 (UTC)


Please restore Template:AZBilliards and its documentation. It is not recreation of deleted content. It's a new template similar to the previous one, that does more than the original did. I was about to use that for a sourcing run. It's insanely tedious to keep re-entering all that data by hand for the same source over and over again. It's also getting tedious to have to keep defending this wikiproject's templates and other material against people who are constantly trying to delete them, as if they have something against cue sports. If someone want to delete the enhanced version they need to make a case why their desire to free up "bits" the server does not need outweighs our project's productivity. I don't see other wikiprojects having their citation and other templates subjected to this kind of deletion campaigning.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  02:15, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Please indicate how this template would be used. If it has been used already, please give a link to its use. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

You can see what it did when someone undid it the one place I got around to using this version of it here before you nuked it. It fills in all the citation data that isn't article-specific, just like all single-source templates do, at Category:Specific-source templates. This source can be used multiple times for virtually every modern non-snooker cue sport bio and event (and some snooker ones for that matter, though this isn't AZBilliards's focus). There are hundreds of source-specific templates like this, and no one seems to mess with any of them but cue-sports specific ones. I have to fend off targeted deletion nonsense like this several times per year. Someone keeps subst'ing them (sometimes very messily - they have conditional code in them), then listing them for deletion, generally when I and other project members don't seem to be around to defend them, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence of course. Someone has way too much @#$%ing time on their hands and needs to go do something constructive, instead of simultaneously destructive, and inhibitory of a particular project getting work done And I shouldn't have to rush to use it in 50 places a few days after setting it up, to keep a self-evidently useful template around. This source is one of the top four professionally edited cue sports journalism sources; it is a reliable source and a valuable one, already cited in nearly 70 pool and billiards articles.[2]; would be a lot more if people would stop undoing my work and trying to make it hard to cite on purpose.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  20:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

PS: Note that the initial deletion attempt attracted no support whatsoever, here. Instead of just leaving it alone, it was relisted here; it was then relisted again after I gave a rationale to keep it. Then another active cue sports editor gave a rationale to keep it, but it was deleted anyway after all this extended deletion campaigning, on what sure looks like WP:IDONTLIKEIT / WP:IDONTKNOWIT grounds. Templates are not supposed to be listed for deletion again and again and again until someone finally gets the right WP:PARENT and gets the deletion they're seeking, for sourcing templates they don't understand the point of, for sources they don't know, for a topic area they know nothing about. The closest thing to a real rationale provided for deletion is totally senseless: "it does harm because it is yet another template that editors are expected to know about". By that reasoning we should just delete all templates. And that entire WikiProject has only something like 8 citation templates, named after the sources. This is hardly some memory "burden". While the it was correct that the version then under consideration did not do much (just two parameters of data), that is not the case with the current (well, recent) version. It provides something like 5 parameters of data that would have to be repetitively entered. The earlier version was also subjected to blatantly improper WP:FAITACCOMPLI, being subst'd out of use by those trying to delete it, so they could say "it now seems that it is no longer in use for any Wikipedia articles." It's also noteworthy that three of the "delete" !voters are editors in frequent conflict with me, but who do not edit cue sports articles. Why is it that every time I take an announced wikibreak, this project's templates and other materials come under attack, I do wonder. I know someone else who has noticed this effect; every time WP:CUE people don't seem to be around much: Fuhghettaboutit.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  21:10, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

  • You are hopelessly long-winded. I see nothing irregular in the deletion discussion - there has only been one. Nothing has changed since the discussion closed. So I am certainly not going to restore the template. I tend to favour the 'delete' view anyway. If you had used the template to populate category:Topics in the A to Z of Billiards and Pool it might have been different. What you can do now is: a) raise the matter at DRV or b) follow up the offer from the Plastikspork (talk · contribs) "if someone would like it moved to userspace or projectspace, let me know". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:14, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Could you userspace it please? Plastikspork is not active, and hasn't been for almost 3 weeks. Never mind. I'm not sure you understand the nature of the source or of the articles. "A to Z of Billiards and Pool" is just the subtitle of the publication; it's a general sports journalism source (like Sports Illustrated), only specific to pool and billiards. They cover all sorts of news in these sports. It is not some kind of encyclopedia or dictionary. And it's no like I could use it to populate anything when you and others keep deleting it. And yes something has changed since the old discussion closed: I created a new template that does more than twice as much work for the editor as the original did. The original delete rationale hinged on the fact that it only provided pre-set data for two parameters.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  02:04, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

If it is correct that "I created a new template that does more than twice as much work for the editor as the original did." then this isn't substantially similar, and therefore isn't a valid G4 speedy in any case. I will support a DRV overturn on those grounds. DES (talk) 02:17, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Wouldn't just undeleting it be more expedient? I'm not here to press WP:PROCESS on "was this deletion wrong", I just want the template back, since I was using it. I went to the Kelly Fisher article to use it again and found it was deleted.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  04:04, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Then again, it occurs to me if it gets userspaced and I put it back where it belongs, even after further improvement, someone will probably just delete it again. Without DRV overturning this particular deletion, technically it would constitute "previously deleted content". Sometimes WP has too much WP:BUREAUCRACY for its own good.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  04:08, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Aaron Jakobs[edit]

User:Elitemv/Aaron Jakobs. I had just updated this page, not realizing the information I added would get the page removed. If you can please help me get my page back, I will remove the top portion which did become the advertisement. Thank you so much for your help in advance. — Aaron Jakobs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron Jakobs (talkcontribs) 03:44, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks you are notable and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Done! Can you please email the file to me, as you have done for others. Thank You! (talk) 02:54, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Including the band 'lower the tone'[edit]

Hi, Not sure if it's possible but I'd like to address the deleting of 'lower the tone' as a rockabilly band. Lower The Tone are a neo-rockabilly and I would like to defend this genre of music, one way is to have our link in the rockabilly page and link to ours from there. In the 80s, Neo-rockabilly was a great influence to other bands including ours and trying to get people to understand what it is has become very difficult. Our style takes any genre of music and translates it into a simple format of skiffle/country/R&R. This is unique and I would like it supported more. Please consider supporting a page for Lower The Tone. Regards, Simon PS; I completely understand why we would not be accepted and your opinion will not be challenged with regards to wiki rules...keep up the good work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Styleruk (talkcontribs) 11:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

  • That "we" gives the game away. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your band is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)


Is it considered acceptable to speedy delete something without leaving a reason in the deletion log, as you did with this user's userpage? Everymorning (talk) 15:49, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I have fixed the wikilink in the header. Everymorning (talk) 16:22, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

  • But did you re-visit the page? Just for you I have restored and re-deleted the page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:00, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Everymorning (talk) 17:23, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Nine Degrees of Autism[edit]

Not about taking the piss, but about an entirely different topic. Nine Degrees of Autism. Hello RHaworth, Apologies in advance for being completely new to Wikipedia and not knowing how to do anything, including possibly abiding proper Wikipedia etiquette (I read your "wikify" note in the blue box above but there's still the chance I'll mess something up) or even putting this message in the wrong place. First of all, the article in question that I am writing about is not related to 24-hour urine collection discussed above, I am simply writing here because I didn't know where else on your page I could write. The reason you deleted it was because it violated Wikipedia's policy on copyright infringement. I am working on behalf of Philip Wylie, the researcher and person responsible for creating the Nine Degrees of Autism developmental model, to create a wikipedia page for his developmental model. He has provided me with all the content and sources that he feels are relevant to a proper Wikipedia entry, and instructed me to copy-paste certain information directly from his website,, which you flagged as being copyright violation and therefore deleted the entry I was working on for him. I'm not upset at all about this, mind you, because I have no idea how this works and really have no business being upset over something that's my fault. So please tell me the best way to create a proper, functional Wikipedia entry on this subject, without violating Wikipedia's terms. If the creator of content gives his explicit permission to copy-paste information, is that still not allowed? Should all content from other sources be paraphrased? Much appreciated! Have a pleasant day. — Nmizrachi1990 (talk) 04:41, 20 August 2015 (UTC)Nmizrachi1990

  • Yes, you did put the message in the wrong place! Was it too difficult to see that new messages go at the bottom? Please reply. Yes, if explicit permission is given and, more importantly, if the text is encyclopedic, then it may be used. But in this case the author seems to have reliquished copyright to Routledge, who as a commercial publisher, are unlikely to allow it to be used. "Should all content from other sources be paraphrased?" Yes, but your wording suggests a poor attitude - you should read all the sources then put them away and write the text out of your own head. But in any case, kindly have the decency to wait for someone with no COI who thinks this developmental model is notable and can provide independent sources to support that view. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:14, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Aindra Dasa[edit]

Good Morning, I am contacting you in regard to the page Aindra Dasa. I would like some more information on the contents of the page, and the reason why it was deleted. Thank you for your help. Gitas108 (talk) 10:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC) Angie

  • Please re-word your request to indicate that you have looked at the deletion log and the AfD discussion to which it links. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:14, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

Hi, I'm Mecnunsaskin. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Simmie Free, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Mecnunsaskin (talk) 14:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Deletion log entries[edit]

Just a small note but your deletion log entries from CFD seem to be adding an odd "#" that's causing an error in the summaries. For example, your deletion of Category:Kopychyntsi says "[[(G6: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/#Category:Kopychyntsi]]" which causes an error when linked to. It's not a big deal but it's a lot more work later if someone wants to follow the link to the reasoning. I think it's the G6 call you're adding. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:01, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Let's be real. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:03, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

  • What on earth is "let's be real" supposed to mean? The fault lies with Marcocapelle (talk · contribs) who is mis-using {{db-xfd}}. Please look at Category:Slovenian pentathletes. The first deletion shows the problem. This is because Marco used {{Db-xfd|Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_August_10#Category:Slovenian_pentathletes}}. I then restored, applied a tag of {{Db-xfd|votepage=Log/2015_August_10#Category:Slovenian_pentathletes}} and deleted. Result - valid deletion log entry. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


(talk page stalker) Gooday. I am looking into a sequence where an infobox template was deleted by yourself (T3), hence why I have arrived at your page. I don't understand the variables (e.g., hard-coded references) and I need to do more research, but my supposition is that an editor systematically substituted the infoboxes in a sequence also involving bulk-templating of AfD's, then had the original infobox deleted as redundant. This goes back nine months, some articles were deleted under AfD and a few (very few) editors have been trying to restore what was systematically decimated, so maybe you'll understand the amount of research needed as I don't have 10 years' experience to draw on. I don't know if the infobox template deletion was discussed, or should have been, or why the editor concerned took it upon himself (unilaterally, I surmise) to spontaneously do all this. I have very little Wikipedia time presently, so this may be a few months' hence. Thanks.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 10:27, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Why on earth did you place this message in the Aindra Dasa discussion - it seems to have no connection whatsoever? Please reply. This in turn means that {{tps}} is not needed - you are just a normal new contributor to this page. Your message is very difficult to understand but without links to the template/s under discussion it becomes meaningless waffle. If you want me to even express an opinion, I need links. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the response - apologies that it appears as meaningless waffle. When I arrived at your page to check the user rights of the individual who actually carried out the Template deletion, I noticed a message requesting info on the Aindra Dasa deletion, but I was not prepared for creating a separate section, so added to the existing content in that I would easily know who and where you were for the future from my watchlist. I apologise if this seems vague, tenuous and improper procedure. I am trying to draft a fuller response you would better-understand, but presently cannot find a link I need (a lot of it goes back to late 2014, so it's not urgent). Later.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 20:55, 24 August 2015 (UTC)


Well, entering that exact phrase, AKdot into Google turns up a number of legitimate hits related to the Alaska Department of Transportation & Public Facilities, which I believe was the redirect's target. So how exactly is this an "implausible redirect"? RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 19:10, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Agreed but I think all caps is better. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Reinstate redirect IOCL[edit]

Hi, Please state if you have concerns around reinstating redirect IOCL for Indian Oil Corporation which was revived recently after clearing the confusion around it. I can do it myself by recreating it or you may restore the original one as you please. Thanks. Devopam (talk) 08:55, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Please learn to provide links. Agreed. Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Kal-El Intergalactic Stoner?[edit]

Why did you delete my page, Kal-El Intergalactic Stoner? It was a page about my band.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Strodve (talkcontribs) 13:51, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

  • The deletion log entry tells you why it was deleted but kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your band is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:42, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Oregon Lumber Company[edit]

We seem to have had an edit conflict; I was in the process of adding material while you deleted it. I restored it to add the material; if you still want to delete it or think what I did was improper, let me know. — DGG ( talk ) 23:16, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Iniyan Rajan[edit]

Hello RHaworth, you deleted Iniyan Rajan. User created this page again and I have marked it for CSD again. FYI. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 10:52, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


RE: User_talk:RHaworth/2015_Aug_11#Heads_up. You warned this user that if he continued uploading the copyrighted image you had deleted multiple times you would block him. He has now returned and has again replaced the copyrighted images;- File:Duncan Clan Crest.jpg, File:Duncan Modern Tartan.jpg and File:Duncan Ancient Tartan.jpg. Although he claims permission has been given to upload, by the copyright holders, there is no evidence of this permission being given. Additionally he has been challenged on also using ADuncan42 (talk · contribs) to edit the Clan Duncan article to put the images on the article. — Richard Harvey (talk) 16:03, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Faith Action University[edit]

Dear Roger, sorry for the errors and all the hassle when attempting to create new categories on the Faith Action University page you deleted: It was thought that it was appropriate to create a longer list of new wiki categories, but that went wrong and was corrected. Kindly have a great deal of super extra patience.

FAU is not for profit and does not advertise or promote itself nor anyone else, but is notably serving a community of 81,000 ministers for years. I hope you have no problems with the corrected page, which will be well maintained. Thank you, FemtoTaz (talk) 19:32, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

PS: We love grumpy and wish you all the best !

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until your university becomes notable and starts handing out degrees that are recognised as valid by other institutions. Even then you should wait until someone with no COI thinks it is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:58, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Lebanese Muslim Association[edit]

Hi, I have seen that you deleted my Wikipedia page that I created named Official Lebanese Muslim Association. You cited that it was a duplicate of another Wikipedia page called Lebanese Muslim Association.

We are the Official organisation based here in Sydney Australian and I;m the media manager of our organisation. I have been trying to set up this page for month's but it keeps getting deleted because the other account' Lebanese Muslim Association has incorrect information and was created by someone who has the wrong intentions, even the image they have used is the wrong one of our mosque and organisation.

Can I please have the information you deleted and ask you please restore the page or I will be creating another one. I don't understand what gives you the authority to delete my page when we are the official organisation. I have also contacted Wikipedia and notified them so I can figure out who the other person is who has created the Wikipedia page.

I ask for you to please provide me with he content you deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Widyan Fares (talkcontribs) 00:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

  • You don't need to "contact Wikipedia" (whatever that means!) to figure out who created a page - learn to read an edit history! Clearly you have very little concept of what an encyclopedia is. These edits were little better than vandalism. You completely replaced a well-written and well-referenced article with your own unencyclopedic piece being largely a cut&paste job from your website. Ideally, because of your COI you should not be contributing to the page at all but correction of errors will be OK providing they are properly referenced. Any major changes should be discussed on the talk page first. Provide you with the content I deleted? You already have it! Here and on adjacent pages. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:58, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Deleting of page Virtual patient systems[edit]

Dear RHaworth, you have deleted this page virtual patient systems due to duplication with this page virtual patient. Although they are closely related (that´s why I included cross-references), it covers different topics. Virtual Patient Systems are the softwares (and sometimes also hardwares) used to create and deliver virtual patients, whereas a virtual patient is the content and didatical concept, not the technology. After creating the Virtual patient systems page I intended to move some of the technology related stuff from the virtual patient page since this page in my opinion is currently a mixture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virtualpatients (talkcontribs) 14:24, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Your user name suggests COI. Preferably you should not be writing on this topic but in any case please declare any COI on your user page. Even if it had not been a fork, virtual patient systems would have qualified for deletion as a "directory" page. It was essentially just a set of external links. Please discuss any proposed changes at talk:virtual patient and obtain agreement before proceeding. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:58, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

YouTube Gaming[edit]

Hi RHaworth. Just a note that YouTube Gaming, which you deleted as obviously invented by the article creator, is a real thing - as a quick Google search would have showed - and reverting to the redirect which previously existed would have been preferable to deleting it outright. I'm even debating whether there's enough coverage to write a full article! Just a heads up. — Sam Walton (talk) 16:15, 27 August 2015 (UTC)


Hello, I noticed you started the process of moving/deleting the Aftereight article because they changed their name to Capital Lights. What you failed to realize though, is that all the Aftereight material had not been fully integrated into the Capital Lights article and is now lost/gone. I cannot effectively move information now (band members, albums, etc). — RhettGedies (talk) 16:36, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Please learn to provide links. Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:46, 27 August 2015 (UTC)