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Ten Years

On 2015 Jan 1, I joined the Wikipedia Ten Year Society.
Will I make it for another ten?


The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture Deletion[edit]

[Title width guide. Delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.]

No ire in this asking[edit]

…but could you offer a quick word to explain the deletion of the User:Zefr page? I just wish to understand the process and system. Cheers. (talk) 13:02, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Hidden variable[edit]

Thanks for deleting Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hidden variable theory. Nuff said. I cant do the newfangled "Thank", since the page is deleted: but anyway I think it better that it is acknowledged and permanent, which the new "thank" don't do. Cockup on my part, swiftly resolved, how Wikipedia should be. Si Trew (talk) 23:30, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Template:Info box[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Info box. Since you had some involvement with the Template:Info box redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Si Trew (talk) 23:42, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

request copy of a deleted file[edit]

Hi, I'd just like to see the content of an old template that you deleted a few months ago. Could you please provide a copy to me of Template:Infobox Isle of Man TT course ? Thanks in advance, sincerely, doncram 09:39, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of image Shetland Heifer.jpg[edit]

You seem to have deleted file:Shetland heifer.jpg, apparently because it was believed to be a copyright violation. It is not: I am the creator of the image. I posted it to WikiMedia some years ago for inclusion in the Wikipedia page on Shetland Cattle (which I notice has also been removed). Can you please explain why the image was assumed to be a copyright violation? — Boxersoft (talk) 09:20, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

  • So why did you upload the image here instead of to the Commons? Please reply. The image was deleted because TheMagikCow (talk · contribs) (appropriate name!) thought it was a copyvio from here and I did not bother to check. I accept that the image uploaded looks like an high res original and the image at Shetland Cattle (SCBA) is a mere 256×341px in size. So: upload the image to the Commons. Add a note pointing out that a much lower res version exists on the SCBA website and explaining how it got there. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:17, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

I thought I had uploaded it to the Commons under an attrribution/sharealike license, as that's what I have done with the few other images I have added to Wikipedia articles. I can't be certain as it was several years ago and I can't see a way to check. I don't know if I still have the original image available, I'll see if I can dig it out. I could certainly add a note explaining how the image came to be on the SCBA site (I am the webmaster for that site). It has also been used in a number of other places on the web though, from cattle breeders' sites to news articles (all without attribution, I might add). Boxersoft (talk) 15:12, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

  • @Boxersoft: OK perhaps your photo archive is not as well organised as mine and it is 6½ years. So I have transferred it for you. Please add the annotation I suggested - this will also help confirm your authorship. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:57, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

No, my photo archive isn't particularly well organised. I would probably be able to find the original but it might have involved trawling through backups. Thanks for restoring it.

Just so I can avoid similar problems in future, perhaps you could clarify a few things for me:

  1. It appears that I uploaded this image to Wikipedia and not the Commons. Is that wrong, and if so [a] why is it possible and [b] should I move it over?
  2. It looks like I had indeed declared that I am the copyright holder and creator of the work, and yet it was deleted anyway. I could, as you suggest, annotate the upload to announce that it was subsequently used on another site. Am I supposed to update the annotation any time the image is used elsewhere? As I mentioned, it has already been used on various sites beyond my control so, with the best will in the world, I don't see how I can reliably achieve that.

Boxersoft (talk) 18:22, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

  • 1a) Uploads are allowed here for fair use purposes. Perhaps we should do more to force people uploading with CC licences to do so to the Commons. 1b) Did my use of the word "transferred" not suggest anything to you? Have you looked where the image now is? 2) No, of course you don't need to update the annotation - simply word it to indicate that copies are likely to be found elsewhere. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:52, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

You had indicated that instead of uploading to the Commons I had uploaded it "here", which I took to mean Wikipedia. When you said you had "transferred" it I thought you perhaps meant you had and moved it to the Commons but it looks to me like it's under and doesn't appear under my contributions on That's why I asked. As I said, I've only uploaded a few images for use in Wikipedia, so I'm not very familiar with the details and presumably I am confused about the locations. Perhaps you could explain for me what you meant by "transferred"?

My point about annotations is that at the time I uploaded the image I had no idea that it would be used elsewhere. The same is presumably true of most images uploaded for use in Wikipedia. Yes, I can annotate it now in the hope that it will help prevent its deletion again in future but I could not have anticipated that it would be necessary. — Boxersoft (talk) 07:24, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

  • On this page: file:Shetland heifer.jpg do you see the words "this is a file from the Wikimedia Commons" and further down the words "transferred from en.wikipedia"? Look at any of the images in category:copy to Wikimedia Commons (bot-assessed). Each one has a box on the image description which includes "Copy to Commons: via wmfLabs CommonsHelper". It was that link which I followed to effect the transfer. The image does not appear on your list of Commons contributions because you have not yet done anything to it on the Commons! That is one reason that I am suggesting you annotate the description. The simple fact of your edit implies that you are aware of the transfer and approve it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:33, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Трихопигментация[edit]

Could you take another look at your deletion of Трихопигментация? You marked it as an A3 deletion; when I looked at it, it appeared (even allowing for Google Translator's shortcomings) to be at least a half-way comprehensible article about trichopigmentation (or tricopigmentation). — Largo Plazo (talk) 19:20, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Template:Chembox Metabolites[edit]

Hallo, you deleted Template:Chembox Metabolites (G6), but it was used at Ethanol and Ethanol (data page). Christian75 (talk) 05:12, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

  • If it is only used from two pages, would it not be better to hard code it in those two pages? I will accept the view of DePiep (talk · contribs) who tagged a number of chembox-related templates for deletion (and failed to use <noinclude> resulting in ethanol, etc. appearing in CAT:CSD!). — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:33, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Please restore. My bad. I thought it was deprecated formally, but clearly did not research that well enough. - DePiep (talk) 07:45, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Resolved - DePiep (talk) 10:22, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Screen Junkie's Guide to Everything[edit]

Hello RHaworth, could you please G13 delete Draft:The Fiction Fix: A Screen Junkie's Guide to Everything. I nominated it a couple of days ago but for some reason it isn't showing up. Thank you, JMHamo (talk) 16:46, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I've received...[edit]

... a request asking I allow a redirect of a topic which was deleted nine months ago at AFD. The version wished for return appears better sourced and better written than the deleted one. I'd tend to agree the new version is different enough and that a return is merited, but the request should have come to you. Let Silver Buizel know your decision. Thanks, Schmidt, Michael Q. 08:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Michael, it is high time you learned how to create wikilinks.
@Silver Buizel: move done and previous versions restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:16, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
@RHaworth: Thank you for the restoration of the original page name. I appreciate the hard work that was put into doing that. I have just one more request concerning the page. Can you also restore the associated talk page? Have a great day! Silver Buizel (talk) 14:10, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Biters (band)[edit]

You recently deleted the page I had started for Biters whom are signed to my record label, Earache Records. I provided evidence of them being featured in Classic Rock Magazine, a well respected magazine sold internationally. Help me understand how to deem something worthy in the eyes of Wikipedia, because if a relatively small up-and-coming band that is trying to build a fan base with the addition of a Wikipedia page is not worth it, then help me understand what is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex Siegfried (talkcontribs) 19:11, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks the band is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:16, 17 June 2015 (UTC)


I am curious about views on the validity of this redirect. The organisation, no longer existing, was called UK Border Agency. The redirect, which now receives no links, is called UK Borders Agency. Thanks. GregKaye 16:12, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

  • The speedy tag that you applied, {{db-g7}} was, quite simply, wrong. Assuming you had meant to apply {{db-r3}}, I would point out that there is a "recent" condition on that criterion and this redirect was created in 2008. There may be no incoming links but the page is receiving ~4 hits per day. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:46, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I removed the links today so that may account for some of the hits up to now. Its helpful to hear how things work. Maybe deletion servers little purpose but I don't see that the page itself serves any either. GregKaye 19:45, 17 June 2015 (UTC)


Why the didja my ?! It wuz ! And it tool! Sheeshhhh! How would feel If I ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Pieter Laurens Mol[edit]

Hi RHaworth, the article that I created yesterday has been deleted (by you). Here is the link: Pieter Laurens Mol It got deleted because of "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". However, I tried to create an objective article. It stated the artist's birthplace, the media he works in, his publications, some exhibitions and institutions that his works are in. What could I have done differently? I still think this artist deserves a Wikipedia page :-) he had a solo at MoMa for crying out loud!! Many thanks! MvdB123 (talk) 08:43, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

  • You probably have a COI so I should be trotting out my "kindly …" mantra. But just in case you have no COI - the article contained no attempt to provide evidence of notability - preferably in English language sources. If you really think the guy is notable, I recommend you to find a "sponsor". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:37, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, RHaworth. I will try to find a sponsor. MvdB123 (talk) 09:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Rabyi Sufyani[edit]

Can I ask what is the reason of deleting Rabyi Sufyani page? حزل (talk) 12:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Which words in the deletion log entry do you not understand? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:37, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Sarah J. Maas[edit]

Hi Roger. Would you mind if I undeleted Sarah J. Maas, an article you deleted back in February 2012 after @The Devil's Advocate nominated it for speedy deletion (as {{db-person}})? She's published 4 novels since the article was deleted, some of which were NYT best-sellers (see Throne of Glass), so I think she now meets the notability criteria. I was about to start a new article on the author, before I noticed that the article had previously been deleted: it would probably be easier to start it using existing text, rather than writing it from scratch (although I appreciate that the old article needs quite a bit of rewriting!). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:08, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

The original article existed before she had any coverage in reliable sources, so I am not sure what use it would be to base the article off the deleted version.--The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 21:45, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks, I'll restore it shortly! There's some useful information in the deleted article which, while not well-referenced at the moment, can serve as a starting-point to find better refs. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:04, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, "New York Times bestseller" claims are surprisingly difficult to find references for! But the restored article has now been substantially reworked and more clearly referenced, and I'll continue working on finding better references and expanding the article. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:30, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Royal Aero Club Records[edit]

Good evening, Mr Haworth, I'm working on this page to provide a place on Wikipedia for the organisation. It was deleted as being an unambiguous copvio (correct term?) of another website - Clubzz. This website has extracted it's content from our Air Racing Handbook - Air Racing Handbook. This is the first time I was even aware of the Clubzz listing. It's still a work in progress and I have to add at least two references, and seek out some missing information such as the chairmen. I would ask that you be kind enough to reinstate the draft, and allow me to continue to develop it and submit it for consideration for publication in the future. — Petechilcott (talk) 21:54, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Please learn the difference between it's and its. Copyvio or not, the article was a long way from the proper encyclopedic tone that we need. But I am happy to email you it - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I have verified my account. Are you able to offer advice on how I might improve the article for inclusion in Wikipedia? This is my first full article, having only undertaken minor edits, and I would like to do things correctly with the aim of having the article accepted for publication. — Petechilcott (talk) 16:57, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Assuming this thread relates to the club, you have received your answer: don't bother. But in fact I am surprised at your "one source" claim - it is an active club - do its events never receive any newspaper coverage for example? If you do persist in trying to create an article, the obvious advice is: do not cobble together stuff from your website: do the job properly and write a proper article from scratch. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:07, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Your deletion[edit]

I'm discussing with a user here that reverting would have been appropriate for a stub of a notable subject if subsequent edits added a promotional tone, not deletion. I pinged you earlier, but you did not respond. Regards, Samsara 13:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Ryan King[edit]

Hi RHaworth. Way back in 2008, you placed creation protection on Ryan King. I'm looking to create an article about Ryan King, the Canadian football long snapper who has played in the Canadian Football League for three years (see: CFL profile). As per WP:NGRIDIRON, this Ryan King is presumed notable. Could you take a look at possibly lifting this creation protection to allow this article to be created? In the meantime, I'll start working on it as a userspace draft. ~ RobTalk 17:30, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Submit it via AfC. If it is accepted then removal of the protection will be uncontroversial. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:07, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

It's been submitted. Once it's been accepted, I assume the reviewer will take care of getting the creation protection removed, or is there some additional process I'll need to go through to have the creation protection removed? ~ RobTalk 03:36, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

  • The reviewer will take care. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC)


Why did you delete the Onision wikipedia page? Onision is a famous YouTuber with over 1 million subscribers across his four channels. He is significant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAdamGreen (talkcontribs) 18:29, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Please re-word your question to show that you have looked at the reasons given against all five deletions of the article and explain why you still need more info. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:07, 19 June 2015 (UTC)


Hello Rh why didn't you delete my page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:13, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for deleting those files![edit]

Thank you for deleting those files so I could reupload them. A question though, how do I stop Wikipedia collecting the Metadata from the image? I don't really like personal details being on the website, I redownloaded them and that fixed it but is there a quicker way? Thanks, --Anarchyte 12:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

  • You already know the solution - don't put your name in the metadata! Another approach would be to upload as PNG files - which might be a more appropriate format anyway. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Geekonomicon deleted, trying to recreate[edit]

Previously you had deleted the page created last year for the Geekonomicon convention. I'm trying to re-create the page this year but I don't want to run afoul of your previous reasons for deletion. As I cannot see what the prior page looked like and I can only see the cited vague reasons I'm at a bit of a loss. I'm trying to create the page this weekend in a sandbox before I publish it again and don't want to waste my time. So far I'm looking at other Fandom convention pages to use as a template. If you can provide more information on why the prior page was removed it would be helpful. — Frosty228 (talk) 18:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Courtesy link to the page. Based on the deletion reason I am guessing the article was written in an overly promotional fashion and didn't show how it is notable enough to be included in Wikipedia, specifically Wikipedia:Notability (events). The article should have reliable sources showing that it fits the requirements of the latter guideline. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 18:50, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
  • The previous version was deleted for being hopeless first person spam: "we will have something for everyone!" — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Corsa Specialised Vehicles[edit]

I see from your homepage that you like to target "newbies" and also engage in page deletions. Care to explain the deletion of the Corsa Specialised Vehicles one, twice? The second talk page had more detailed reasons to dispute the nomination but in both cases there was no discussion at all. Unsure if this is the right way to proceed. — CtrlXctrlV (talk) 03:28, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Corsa Specialised Vehicles. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CtrlXctrlV (talkcontribs)

The discussion at DRV is running unanimously against speedy deletion here, and doesn't seem likely to change. Would you consider cutting the red tape and restoring the article? —Cryptic 08:48, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
  • I might have been willing but CtrlXctrlV descends into unnecessary personal observations so the discussion can run its course as far as I am concerned. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:57, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Mistaken db-g12 tag on a CC-BY text[edit]

Please restore Draft:Arturo D. Hernández (author), since the Creative Commons attribution license of the original text[1] is compatible with Wikipedia. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 08:47, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

I also request that you review this deletion. — DES (talk) 15:58, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. DES (talk) 23:52, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Waycore[edit]

You deleted Waycore with a logged reason of "A7: Article about a company, corporation or organization, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject". However, the article stated that it was abut a programming language, not a company. Now whether that language is notable is a different question, but I don't think this qualified under A7. Please consider undeleting. — DES (talk) 22:17, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Utter pedantry. It was a pathetic 273 byte stub. What does it matter what deletion reason we use. Feel free to restore it if you must. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:48, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
  • I beg to differ. My point isn't the reason in the log -- although I think accurate deletion reasons are important. My point is that with a creative work such as a book or a programming language, a facial examination of a stub won't reliably tell you, or any admin, whether a proper article on a notable topic could be developed from that stub, or not. My other point is that there is consensus to speedy delete certian narrowly limited categories of pages, but beyond the letter of the criteria, there is not such consensus, and consensus to delete must be created via Prod or AfD in a particular case. As for "a pathetic 273 byte stub" I have seen worse stubs develop into quite valid articles. A few examples:
    • Great American Lesbian Art Show was a 208 byte sub-stub. Now it is 8,625 bytes and has had a DYK mention on the main page.
    • Isabel Ashdown was an 868 byte stub that had just been tagged for speedy deletion. Now it is 8,061 bytes and it also had a DYK mention.
    • Mahler on the Couch was a 31-byte sub-stub! Now it is 7,221 bytes bytes long, and I have nominated it for DYK.
  • Anyway I shall, in accord with your kind pemisison above, undelete this and move it to draft, and see if I can source it better. Thank you. DES (talk) 00:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DES. I can't comment on the merits of your page but you may want to consider seeking a review as per Wikipedia:Deletion_policy#Speedy_deletion. I did because I disagree/d with User:RHaworth's speedy delition of a page I created, since the claimed "A7" reason also used in my case was unsubstantiated/inappropriate. Good luck.CtrlXctrlV (talk) 11:14, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Just dropping in, I re-deleted Draft:Waycore as a blatantly made up topic, have zero online sources whatsoever despite a good search for them. Not necessarily a reason to delete but for a supposedly brand new programming language, I'll make an exception. Perhaps RHaworth would have had more joy deleting per A11 than A7, but there you go. If somebody can find actual sources for it, feel free to undelete and add them (if you're an admin) or recreate the draft (if you're not), then serve me some seafood. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:22, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Youth akali dal[edit]

Thanks for placing creation protection on Youth akali dal. It was immediately recreated at Youth akali Dal YAD by a new user. This appears to be a case of sockpuppetry, but unfortunately I can't locate the sockmaster as the history of Youth akali dal is not visible. Could you look into this or provide me with the usernames who have created Youth akali dal so I can put together a case for a sockpuppet investigation? Thanks. ~ RobTalk 10:27, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Actually, nevermind. I found the old account via my contributions. If you have anything you care to add to the sockpuppet investigation (i.e. usernames that I'm unaware of), you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rekhadal. ~ RobTalk 10:40, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

the Do Lectures deleted page[edit]

Hi there - appreciate your help please, as I'm new to creating articles. I'm keen to know how to fix submitted article Do Lectures which you had speedy deleted. Do Lectures is very similar to TED talks which has has a page on Wikipedia. There is a credibility page list of the Do lectures speakers on Wikipedia. Thanks for your perspective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samanthabell (talkcontribs)

  • It did seem unfair that the list page should survive while the lectures page should not so I have restored it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


International Forum for Teacher Educator Development (InFoTED). Dear Roger Apologies for the time it has taken me to contact you and seek your advice regarding the information we posted on Wikipedia. This information was about the setting up of the organization and its contribution to Teacher Education, internationally. I wondered if you could advise me on what you feel we could do to reinstate (and if possible) and improve the quality of the entry. We are keen to follow your advise and guidance. Best wishes Gerry Czerniawski The Cass School of Education and Communities University of East London (talk) 17:38, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


Could you please restore the article contents that were in Grégoire I which was originally User:KAVEBEAR/Maputeoa before June 21 back to User:KAVEBEAR/Maputeoa and delete all revision history done after 20:00, May 6, 2012‎? The link for Grégoire I is now a redirect of an article by another user. I want my content move back in my sandbox so I can look at the references. Thank you. -- KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:10, 21 June 2015 (UTC)


You salted the article in 2010 since there were so many recreations of the page with no proof of notability. I agree that salting was the right idea at that time. Well, the band later was signed my a major label subsidiary (under Warner) and their 2014 album has charted on the Billboard Heatseekers Albums which now makes them notable per WP:BAND. There's a newly formed article by a well-established and reputable contributor at User:The Cross Bearer/Akissforjersey. It uses several reliable sources within the Christian music and rock genres. Do you object to moving the sandbox article to namespace? Royalbroil 03:04, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Submit it via AfC. If it is accepted then removal of the protection will be uncontroversial. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:25, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

interactive architecture[edit]

Hello, I just found out that the Wikipedia entry for interactive architecture sends me to this. Far from being a proficient Wikipedia actor, I nevertheless feel that there should be a meaningful light on this topic in Wikipedia I have been working with Kas Oosterhuis on what I consider to be the most "Interactive Architecture" of architecture project, Trans-ports and am a enthusiast follower of the Hyperbody lab So I would like to ask you about your deletion of the page and the possibilities of re-establishing it. cheers Rich — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemodemo (talkcontribs) 06:58, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Obviously I am not going to restore a blatant copyvio but if you create a properly referenced article in your own words and submit it via AfC then it may stick. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:25, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


I would be obliged if you could restore this article so it can be discussed. — Rathfelder (talk) 06:54, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review for Medworxx[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Medworxx. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. I hope the format is right Rathfelder (talk) 15:21, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Legal Policy Law Firm[edit]

Hi. I want to retrieve the deleted material. And it would be better if you could restore it. Thanks Tugsuugsg (talk) 07:30, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Instead of correcting other people's vandalism correct yours first. — Tugsuugsg (talk) 09:18, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


I noticed you deleted a the page ChineseSkill and was wondering what this page was about? I would like to create a new page with this title, so I just want to double check on what the page you deleted was. Thanks. — Mikejohn21 (talk) 10:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I just read through it. My apologies for not having an email address set up before for you to email me. I just set one up so if you could email me the text when you get the chance that'll be great. Thanks Mikejohn21 (talk) 01:59, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I can see clearly why you deleted it. I'd like to restart on this article from scratch. Is it possible you can restore it? — Mikejohn21 (talk) 06:11, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

  • You contradict yourself - if you want to restart from scratch, there is no need to restore the old version. Just restart from scratch! If: your new version uses any of the text from the deleted article && the new version survives for a week, then come back to me and I will restore the old underneath the new. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm new to this, so I wasn't sure because of the message I got when I tried to make the page. Thanks for the help. Mikejohn21 (talk) 03:15, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Moe Salem user askandrany 1[edit]

Please could you explain why you Delete my paper some claim a copy right, 1st of all they are talking about 2 different subject, i just want to know why it was deleted Water Side Evaporative Heat Recovery, one paper that one it was in Air2O company talking about indirect Evaporative cooleing, it dont have any thing about energy recovery, this one is talking about Evaporative recovery, to some one not from the industry they seem similar but they are not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoeSalem (talkcontribs)

  • Your use of the word "paper" says it all. Blatant violation of our no original research policy. Also whilst it may not be a copyvio from the Air2O source cited, given the poor quality of your English, I am very dubious about whether you were the author of the piece. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:43, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

You making an assumption about me you don't know me Sir 1st i might use the word paper by mistake rather than article or white paper, but really how dare you you tell me I am not the author, i am a mechanical engineer with over 20 year of experience, the only Reason you suspect that i am not the author is what .. just because my name or because of what you have profile me .. shame on you ... so you delete my article just because you suspect that i am not the author really i am speechless and I don't know what to tell you... MoeSalem (talk) 23:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Just do me a favor please read the Acknowledgment in the Air2O paper and here i am copy it for you:

The authors gratefully acknowledge the support provide by the Ras Tanura refinery HVAC maintenance group and Mr. Mohamed (Moe) Salem of Air2O for their continued support throughout the pilot test.

80% of the paper of air2o was my work ... thats why it has the same way of thinking even they are not related , I demand to be treated fair, the article is original work of my self,, it is published in different magazines and Journals the same article will published under my name in .. for your information Sir I am one of the very Few people around the world who understand this technology, and that's why i wrote about it, to help people and to educate really really I am super disappointed, I expected that wiki will have some one expert in the subject matter talk to me about my article. — MoeSalem (talk) 23:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Even if it is not a copyvio, NOR still applies. Yes, we probably do have experts - follow this advice and find one. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:53, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

User talk:KAVEBEAR/Maputeoa[edit]

That was a repository so I can google translate entire page for the purpose of reading. Is it copyvio if it is in a sandbox? -- KAVEBEAR (talk) 13:50, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Yes, of course it is. And I believe that a straight Google translate of the page would also be considered a copyvio. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:58, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes I understand for an article thus this was why it was for reading purpose. I will just keep it not visible by blanking..--KAVEBEAR (talk) 14:15, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

David Haines[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Haines (composer). Thanks. The Dissident Aggressor 15:43, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Draft: Marcus L. MIller[edit]

Hello, Back on 3 September 2014 you deleted a page draft Draft: Marcus L. Miller I am recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, so I wanted to contact you. Would you be able to restore it so that I can make appropriate edits per your feedback? Can you provide the text to me via email or restore the article to user: or draft: space? This was the link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maryamhosseinzadeh (talkcontribs) 19:53, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi, So very sorry to send this twice but the first time I did not sign it and it was not in the correct format which you prefer, as noted above. I am planning to correct/edit a draft page that you deleted on 3 September 2014. Could you please provide a copy to me or restore of Draft:Marcus L. Miller? Thank you! Maryamhosseinzadeh (talk) 20:02, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Second attempt was still not in the preferred format which is Draft:Marcus L. Miller. Can you see the difference? But emailed anyway because you did try. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:01, 25 June 2015 (UTC)


You removed my edit on Mahayana sutras as "unspeedy". I'm unclear on what that means, as I followed the instructions on how to move a page. Is this an objection to content or procedure? Ogress smash! 00:26, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Procedure. Follow the instructions properly. Look at your tag. See the words "the page to be moved to this name is Mahayana sutras" - did you wonder why "Mahayana sutras" is black rather than being a link? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Nirvana Spa Deletion[edit]

Hi, I created the article Nirvana Spa but it was deleted as being advertising. This is not the case at all. Nirvana is the UK's largest Spa and therefore worthy of note. As for advertising, the article included negative aspects of the Spa, such as the fact that there was a chlorine leak that led to circa 40 people needing hospital treatment- this is hardly positive advertising. As an example, see the entry for a similar business, Champneys. Is this also advertising? Please reconsider the deletion as the rationale behind it is not correct. — contribs) (talk) 18:52, 26 June 2015 (UTC) Amencorner72

  • I was tempted to block you for personation - pretending to be a logged in user when in fact you are an IP address - but I will overlook that point. The very first sentence contained a classic spammy peacock term "award winning". Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your spa is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:44, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Key development indicator[edit]

Thanks for your input. Let me know how I can make this entry a good one! -- Bobauthor (talk) 10:20, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Learn to link to an article when you talk about it and, for goodness sake, find more online references to support it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:44, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Ten reasons for deletion[edit]

Hello, I am trying to create an English version of Ten Music Group Wikipedia page. I saw that the page was previously created but got deleted Ten Music Group. I was wondering if you could help me in the creation process. You can see my draft here: User:Edourad/Ten music group. Swedish version. French version. Please let me know if you have any feedback/tips. Best, Edourad -- Edourad (talk) 10:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

  • I have emailed you two deleted states. See also the AfD discussion. But kindly have the decency to wait until someone who a) has no CoI and b) knows how to create wikilinks thinks the group is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:38, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I received it, thank you! Yes off course there is no rush. Best, Edourad (talk) 15:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Winchell Eric Ave[edit]

Hi I was just wondering why the User talk page is deleted where in fact it is a real person certification can be provided that the person was once a public personality. He appeared on the stated tv shows on the article. It was deleted last 05 February 2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malayangpahayagan (talkcontribs) 00:40, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[edit]

As an FYI, there is an OTRS ticket 2015062910017443 concerning the text at granting appropriate permission for the use of text from "". (I have no opinion on whether restoration of this article is or is not appropriate for reasons unrelated to permission.) -- B (talk) 13:32, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Implausible redirect?[edit]

Mind explaining what is implausible about referenced redirect Apollonios of Tyana? On page 88 Burnet used Apollonios of Tyana spelling. Ref . — prokaryotes (talk) 16:14, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Eliza Meek[edit]

Hello can you transfer the history of User:KAVEBEAR/Eliza Meek to Eliza Meek but keep them as separate?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:49, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Transferred. The separation is that all edits from and including 2015-07-01 18:47:53‎ were done at Eliza Meek. All edits before that were done in your usersapce. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:00, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Deleted pages[edit]

To whom it may concern, I am contacting you to request that pages: Kaya Stewart and Kaya stewart be reinstated. These articles were deleted because lack of information about why this person is significant. I am a representative from Warner Bros. Records in Burbank, California and Kaya Stewart is one of our upcoming artists. She is widely popular and extremely known in the music world. Her new single "I'm In Love WIth a Boy" has created a lot of buzz for Warner Bros. and her recent tour attracted thousands in the audience. This Wiki page is vital for her success and publicity. Please contact me so we can resolve this problem. — Aoayala (talk) Madeline Hutton — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aoayala (talkcontribs) 19:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Be grateful that I am replying since my name is not Whom It May Concern. A more blatant case of blatant unashamed spamming would be difficult to find. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:40, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Praise abort deletion[edit]

Hello. I found the article Praise_Abort from the top search engine result, but was surprised to find it deleted for the reason A9: Non-notable music by artist without a Wikipedia article.

I can only presume that the root cause was a poor quality article. The artist, Till Lindemann, does has a comprehensive article. The album containing this single, Skills in Pills, also has a good article. Reliable sources of data are not hard to come by. Most articles include a lengthy comment sections, demonstrating that many people find this song notable.[1][2][3][4] There is plenty of speculation about the meaning of this song, which is likely to be the main reason they'd come to this Wikipedia article.

Hsimah (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:36, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Hsimah, your comment above included more information than the entire deleted article did. Probably it would be easier and simpler to strt anew than bother working from the deleted stub. Note that it is rare that an individual song is notable on its own, although some songs clearly are. DES (talk) 03:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)


Feeding India[edit]

As you previously deleted this article and it has since been recreated, I'm notifying you of the AfD discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Feeding India. Voceditenore (talk) 07:09, 4 July 2015 (UTC)