User talk:RHaworth
Archives[edit]
Contents
- 1 Archives
- 2 Ethics of animal research article deletion
- 3 "No promote"
- 4 Curiosity
- 5 Theatrical Costume Construction
- 6 You deleted the draft page for Nazrin Hassan
- 7 About this page
- 8 Spambox deleted
- 9 Reopen the page of ZW3D
- 10 Kount redirect
- 11 Responsibility
- 12 Please clarify or return Markforged page
- 13 CC
- 14 Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome
- 15 Sarawutskuberg
- 16 Copyright problem fixed for draft
- 17 Draft:List of programs broadcast by Rengoni
- 18 Held & Hines Draft Text Request
- 19 Deleted Page-Lawren Brianna Ware
- 20 B. J. Snowden
- 21 Yangfeng Automotive
- 22 don't delete upcoming articles
- 23 A kitten for you!
- 24 A cupcake for you!
- 25 A cheeseburger for you!
- 26 Free Republic of Liberland
- 27 Greighwolfe
- 28 Edit summaries
- 29 London School of Samba
- 30 retrieve deleted content
- 31 Accidentally Deleting an Article
Ethics of animal research article deletion[edit]
The article I curated was deleted on the 24th of october in response to @Jytdog that I was a student editor and that the content I provided was out of dialogue with an existing sub topic of the article Animal Testing. I am asking that this page be undeleted on the premises that the conditions it was deleted were inaccurate. It was deleted under section A10 (for the criteria of a speedy deletion): "This applies to any recently created article with no relevant page history that duplicates an existing English Wikipedia topic, and that does not expand upon, detail or improve information within any existing article(s) on the subject, and where the title is not a plausible redirect." I believe that the article I submitted greatly expanded on the philosophical debates surrounding the ethics of animal testing. I went into sufficient detail only from the philosophical side with plenty of references to show that this is a stem of ethics within the philosophical community. When the article was deleted under A10 I was redirected to "Animal Testing #ethics" [no link - spurious capials and lack of capital] which only offers a few sentences on the viewpoints of a few philosophers (and only ones against animal testing) and the rest about different types of experimentation and animals that were used that sparked protest- a different angle to the one that i provided; which focused purely on going into depth on the philosophical moral arguments. I believe at minimum that the content I provided would have fit under content to be merged: "This does not include split pages or any article that expands or reorganizes an existing one or that contains referenced, merge able material. It also does not include disambiguation pages. Thank you --ExistentialMariachi (talk) 14:07, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Try not to be so long winded. All your edits to ethics of animal research have now been restored. Wikipedia is a collaborative project; not a place to publish essays. I suggest you proceed by improving the animal testing#Ethics section. Certainly that article is rather long so you could propose a split on its talk page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:34, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
There is a miscommunication. The page is still a redirect. For the record the "philosophy layout guidelines" were followed for the structure of the page. The article was selected to write based on its red text status from wiki projects" (philosophy). Animal testing and pages surrounding the topic were researched on Wikipedia before commencement of the project. The draft was listed for a time before being published in the main space. Upon publishing into the main space reviewers were invited to engage and assist in editing the article but instead It was speedy deleted. I will requesta review as a precaution to ensure all avenues are explored for the sake of information sharing
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Ethics of animal research. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ExistentialMariachi (talk) 14:07, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- What is your objection to discussing the matter at talk:animal testing? Have you considered launching the article via AfC? Please reply to both questions. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:45, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
"No promote"[edit]
Hi i would like to use wikipedia for my company. it no promote or adsvestise. just information for people who what i'm i Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarawutskuberg (talk • contribs) 15:59, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
OK Sir, Can I write History of my Company no promote no adv no link to my website. just Encyclopedia to website thankyou. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarawutskuberg (talk • contribs)
Thank you for reply, How i can use wikipedia the free encyclopedia with my knowledge THankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarawutskuberg (talk • contribs) 05:06, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- If by "use" you mean use Wikipedia to promote your company, the answer is still: do not do it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:49, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Curiosity[edit]
Hello, I just find out that you're the one who deleted the article I was writing and I want to know the reason why you did so. Because you do not have any knowledge about the article I was writing, why did you allow yourself to do so? If possible, am requesting the content of the page I have already wrote. Thsnks for your understanding. Brainrod (talk) 16:56, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Theatrical Costume Construction[edit]
Hello Mr. Haworth. I am attempting to recover or get a copy of my recently deleted article Theatrical Costume Construction. I need it for two reasons, 1) to provide it to my instructor for a class and 2) to hopefully use as a reference to re-write the article for hopeful later submission after learning more about the Wikipedia process and requirements. As you can see, I am very new to this process. Thank you! Iris Harmon - Dolphin7861 Dolphin7861 (talk) 00:30, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- I should really dismiss you by telling you to read this but I have taken pity and restored all your deleted edits apart from two redirects. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:45, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
You deleted the draft page for Nazrin Hassan[edit]
Hi Mr. Haworth. This is my first time "talking" on this site. I was writing my first article on Wiki and with all due respect, you marked the new article for Nazrin Hassan for speedy deletion. It was my first official Wikipedia article. Well, I'm not sure how Wiki works but I thought a DRAFT is a way for me to save an article BEFORE it gets published (cos I don't see any other way or button to save a page). Do note that the article was a work in progress, the text and sentences shall be changed later on once I got all the details (from sources) in it. I also read the five pillars on Wiki which state that and I quote "Be bold but not reckless in updating articles. And do not agonize over making mistakes: ". If so, am I being punished for conforming to the pillars? As I said, I assumed a draft is just a draft (a work in progress) and not a final document. So, could you please reinstate the article so that I could finish it and rectify whatever issues it has. Thank you Mwhc00 (talk) 02:23, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
About this page[edit]
This page National Management Programme supplements the official NMP page hosted by the Management Development Institute. It provides information on life in the NMP programme. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nigamniyati (talk • contribs)
Spambox deleted[edit]
User:Magoo87bit/sandbox
Hi there, I am writing with reference to the above mentioned deleted page on BrikBit Digital Shares. I would like to create a page that describes the main features of my startup and does not want to promote anything in particular. How can I create a complete description of the company without it being deleted? I would really appreciate your suggestions.
Thank you very much
Best, Magoo87bit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magoo87bit (talk • contribs) 14:33, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Reopen the page of ZW3D[edit]
Dear Roger, May I know why our product page ZW3D was deleted? Could you please send me the orignial text from our page? I am the new marketing head of ZW3D team and would like to if it's possible for us to create the page of ZW3D and make sure that all of the description comply with all the rules of Wikipedia. Thanks~ Best Regards, Michelle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zw3dmkt (talk • contribs) 05:41, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Please read this. Text emailed but please do not attempt to re-post it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:49, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Kount redirect[edit]
Can you make a redirect from "Kount" to Clazz? These are intentional misspellings in computer programming, to avoid conflict with a reserved word. -- Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 11:13, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose there are some SQL users who have not learned about the ` key but if you want a redirect from kount, you may have it . You may also have klazz but we will do that indirectly. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:46, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Responsibility[edit]
Hello
I apologise in advance for any errors I make - I am very new to editing wikipedia and am not fully au fait with the systems for eg contacting other users. If I mess up, please be kind enough to tell me what I ought to have done instead.
I work on a research project that looks at Responsible Research and Innovation. I see from wikipedia that there was a page but you removed it. I would very much like to understand why, and create a better page, as this is a reputable research discipline, and I wondered if you would be kind enough to let me have the text of the page? — Octaviapink (talk) 11:38, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Much appreciated - I have posted my comments on the Talk page for the article and will give it a rewrite. My understanding is that wikilinks are bad for wikipedia, is that correct? — Octaviapink (talk) 09:53, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Wikilinks are bad!!! For goodness sake, learn a few wiki standards. This is a wikilink: Responsible Research and Innovation. Compare that with the link you used in the original state of your message. Which link do you think is "bad"? You also omitted to provide an heading to your message. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:06, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Please clarify or return Markforged page[edit]
Good Day, You deleted my page Markforged under the auspices of "G11," which it was tagged with yesterday. As I wrote in my comment on the talk page for that article, this tag simply seems inapplicable—the content of the article, whatever you may say about it, does not fall under G11. To wit: "Any article that describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion." It is certainly hard to make hard-and-fast objective assertions about style and tone, etc., but I believe any reasonable observer, and certainly anyone who has any experience on Wikipedia, would not have considered the tone of the article inappropriate or promotional in any way. And it makes me wonder whether you or the individual who tagged it yesterday even read it? I also see that you have locked out the page under the dubious claim that it has been "repeatedly recreated." As far as I am aware this page was created years ago, once, by some unknown party possibly not connected to the company. I can't speak to this literal one previous version, but I am confident we created an article of reasonable and sufficient quality for inclusion here, and it is unfair to imply, as you seem to have done, that this is being repeatedly created in some abusive fashion. And it is certainly incorrect to say that there is "no indication of importance." It is true that the initial version of the page did not perhaps highlight the areas in which Markforged is a unique a newsworthy company (inventing continuous carbon fiber printing, certain metal printing processes, etc.), but these things would have been added, hopefully by the community, etc., once this sword of Damocles of capricious editorial deletion had been, ideally, cleared away, and at any rate the company's market position, investors, etc. would justify inclusion regardless of its technological distinctions.
To be frank, and with all due respect, it is my considered opinion you and the other editors involved in these decisions are abusing your positions with capricious and indefensible actions that fly in the face of both the spirit and the letter of Wikipedia editorial standards, and I would ask that you carefully review this page and reconsider your position as soon as possible. Thank you. Reverendgraham (talk) 19:59, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- An inordinate amount of waffle but no link to the page in question. Restored. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who has not been paid to write the article thinks the company is notable and approves the article for mainspace. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:25, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
CC[edit]
Hello RHaworth, Picture deleted has creative common license allowing reproduction in any medium. Many thanks for your incredible service to the Wiki community the past decade, incredible! I am new to this so writing for some guidance about two pictures that you deleted citing (F9: Media file copyright violation without credible claim of fair use or permission).
This is the page where I had added the pictures because they were much more relevant to the article (pictures taken at the IMF where this person has been appointed, and with the IMF MD who appointed her): Gita Gopinath. Here are the two new pictures that I had added that you deleted: File:Gita Gopinath with IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde at 2017 IMF Annual Meeting in Washington DC.jpg and File:Gita Gopinath at the 2017 IMF Annual Meeting in Washington DC.jpg.
I had taken both pictures from the Flickr account of the IMF where both pictures are listed with a creative commons license that allows their use. The license says "You are free to: Share — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format. The licensor cannot revoke these freedoms as long as you follow the license terms." A copy of the license says NC-ND. And the two pictures (with links to this license) are from Flickr and can be found here and here.
I thought the above license clearly allows for this picture to be redistributed in any medium or format and had also noted these copyrights in the relevant section when I uploaded these pictures. If this license does allow for these pictures, then can you please restore. If not, then can you please let me know why they attract F9-Copyright violation from Wikipedia so I don't make that mistake again. Many thanks again for your service, sumfal Sumfal (talk) 22:35, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Please learn wikilinks for wiki articles, that naked URLs for other links are obscene, that re-instating an image description page as a message is little better than vandalism and that brevity is the soul of wit. You included the reason in your message: NC-ND. The Wikimedia sites require BY-SA or less restrictive and I cannot see any justification for uploading the images as fair use. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:25, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome[edit]
[Title width guide. Delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.]
Sarawutskuberg[edit]
- Four times you have a left a message at the top of this page. Three times I have moved the message down here. Since you have not got the message, I have blanked your latest but if you repeat it down here, I will reply. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:25, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Oh Sorry I didn't know talk page edit at here sorry. and now I know thank you for advice. let discuss on this Can I write about some people about history thank you . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarawutskuberg (talk • contribs) 15:20, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- You may try. I recommend you to do so via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Copyright problem fixed for draft[edit]
Hi, I fixed the copyright problems you marked for the page: Draft:Valentina Lombardo. Can you check if now can be ok? thanks (G3n10z (talk) 10:57, 15 November 2018 (UTC))
- Learn wikilinks. So, generate the dupdet report yourself. I think the present state is acceptable. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:40, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Oh thanks! Nice tool the dupdet report! Can you approve the draft? Bye G3n10z (talk) 18:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Ok thanks G3n10z (talk) 08:40, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Draft:List of programs broadcast by Rengoni[edit]
Thanks for cleaning up my mess. I wasn't quite sure how to proceed with the articles already having a draft in draftspace. Actually I'm not quite sure what to do with মৃগাংক they keep creating articles with no references. And any attempts notify them as to what they are doing wrong quickly gets deleted off their talk page. --Whispering(t) 17:44, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- See User talk:মৃগাংক. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:40, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Held & Hines Draft Text Request[edit]
Hi RHaworth, You recently deleted my draft page: Draft:Held & Hines. I was not too clear on how citing worked, and what counted as verifiable sources. This was also my first time editing a Wikipedia page, and I will continue to read the rules/guidelines so that I could provide acceptable content. May I have the original text so that I can continue to edit? Thank you! Evelyn.yz.mau (talk) 17:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Text emailed but kindly have the decency to wait until someone who has half a clue about what a Wikipedia article should look like and does not have any CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:40, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Deleted Page-Lawren Brianna Ware[edit]
Hello!br> You recently deleted the page which I had been working on for Lawren Brianna Ware due to "unambiguous advertising or promotion." I feel that is incorrectly done as I did make sure to follow Wikipedia guidelines, and based the page off those of similar composers like Kate Soper (composer) and Jennifer Higdon. Wikipedia states to attempt to resolve with the deleting administrator before anything else. I hold no connection to the composer, it was purely for an assignment. If you still feel it should stay deleted, could I please have access to the deleted page for Lawren Brianna Ware? Thank you. Jonlukemartin (talk) 18:13, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Restored. What sort of "assignment"? If it is a paid assignment, you must declare it.
- Natureium, I know it is spammy and Jon probably has a CoI but it is in draft space, so please allow it six months to live. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:40, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
A school assignment. I had to make a wikipedia page for a composer who wasn't a white male. I'm not paid to make it, unless you count a grade as a form of payment. I, still, have no personal connection with the composer. — Jonlukemartin (talk) 18:35, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
B. J. Snowden[edit]
Did you bother to compare the article (B. J. Snowden) that was AfDed and the one I wrote? They bear little resemblance to each other. For one thing, I added a number of reliable sources from mainstream newspapers. For another thing, the deletion rationale at the AfD wasn't valid, as the subject clearly satisfied the GNG (significant coverage in multiple, reliable sources). I openly requested userfication of this at WP:REFUND. Your A7 is improper, as the article makes claims of notability (featured on the BBC, appearances on two major evening TV talk shows, a full chapter dedicated to her in Irwin Chusid's book: pretty much the basis for notability of outsider musicians in general). Please restore the article. EnPassant (talk) 18:22, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for undeleting B. J. Snowden. Enjoy your weekend! — EnPassant (talk) 15:21, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Yangfeng Automotive[edit]
Hello, if I see well, 8 minutes after marking the article YFAI for deletion you deleted it. That was a pretty speedy deletion without chance to contest it. Now I see you hopefully could provide me with the deleted material so I will be able to think about a more compliant article in the future. Thank you in advance.
And one more question to you as an experienced and long-term editor: As I fully understand the general criteria about notability, I did not think that a company employing 30+ thousands people in many countries in three continents, delivering to all major automotive producers and giving pace in its branche should/could be not "notable."
Do you think, the entry "YFAI" could be suitable for the Wiktionary? I wrote that article also having in mind that people could find what is behind these four leters, besides the above mentioned facts. Regards, ChJn (talk) 22:30, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- No! YFAI is not suitable for Wiktionary! I did wonder as I deleted it why a company with 30k employees had not been in Wikipedia for ages. The answer is that it does not sell to the general publick and probably does not advertise outside of trade papers. Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:40, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
don't delete upcoming articles[edit]
plz don't delete the mope.io page it's getting created. mope.io — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShirleyLucks (talk • contribs) 00:39, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
A kitten for you![edit]
Hello Dear, Can you please tell me my mistakes ? — KH Fajla Rabby (talk) 03:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a social networking site. Please stick to FaceBook, etc. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:06, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
A cupcake for you![edit]
| Hello dear, can you please tell me my mistakes? — KH Fajla Rabby (talk) 03:12, 16 November 2018 (UTC) |
A cheeseburger for you![edit]
| Hello Dear can you please tell me my mistakes? — KH Fajla Rabby (talk) 03:14, 16 November 2018 (UTC) |
Free Republic of Liberland[edit]
Excuse me please. May I be knowing precisely why eight days ago Free Republic of Liberland was deleted by you, and why it stands now? Why could the details I pasted onto the article not just be blanked and redirected? --Ishmailer (talk) 09:39, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- See User talk:Thomas.W#Paucity. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 10:37, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Greighwolfe[edit]
Hello. I saw that the draft I made for creating a biography article has been deleted. Saw the references that you've added, but I'm not sure of the steps that I took wrong. If you have a minute can you guide me more easily through the process of publishing my first article here? Draft:Greighwolfe. Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doychinborisov (talk • contribs) 11:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- If you are satisfied that the guy is notable, try writing an article entirely in your own words. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:17, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Ok, so the problem here was the style of writing right? Yes I guess there are some issues since neither am I a blogger/writter, and this is my first try to publish a Wiki article. If so, what is the correct way to reproduce an improved version of that. Keep the writing more simplified with no external sources, and just to express my impression of the artist. And also one more question: do I start the whole process in a new 'draft' or ? Thanks for the response also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doychinborisov (talk • contribs)
- What is the point of leaving messages if peope do not read them? Who said anything about style of writing? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:21, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Edit summaries[edit]
re. your edit summary here - probably not a good idea to use that as an abbreviation for "removing"... you may want to pop it in Wikipedia's Search bar and see what comes up (not if you're at work, though). Yunshui 雲水 10:49, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- So why be shy about using the word rimming? It means walking a rim such as the Pacific Rim or the Burma Rim. If you think it means something else, you have a dirty mind! (OK, I was well aware of the word's most common meaning. I used in the edit summary as a joke. There ain't much scope for humour here, please allow me what little I can manage.) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:17, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
London School of Samba[edit]
Hi RHaworth, Re: Draft:London School of Samba. I cannot get a page established for this group and I keep going round in circles. The London School of Samba was the first samba school in the UK (1984). This, I believe is significant. The first band of a specific genre of music in the UK, that is now popular worldwide (and all over the UK). Wikipedia has a page for samba schools and a page for samba thus I think the London School of Samba as the first group is worthy of a page.
I logged on today to edit an article and noticed some messages about this, and thought I would contact you. Wikipedia editors have told me they need credible sources - I found two below (from the BBC),I can find others. I would like to put up a brief page for the group. Can I have your thoughts on this? Kind regards, Mags Samba (talk) 14:13, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- My thoughts? You need to learn wikilinks and must not leave your restored draft unedited for another six months. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
retrieve deleted content[edit]
may I please have a copy of the content deleted from User:Cheweasel/Peggy Bradley. Thanks, Cheweasel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.132.160.2 (talk) 02:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- I should really say "I cannot send an email to an IP address" but I have taken pity on you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:24, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Accidentally Deleting an Article[edit]
Hi RHaworth. Hope you're well. I've just noticed that you seem to have deleted an article I wrote about much loved and forgotten UK singer Hank Purvis. The reason given was "Blatant hoax". I think this might be a mistake or a misunderstanding. I tried my best to give proper sources. Obviously it's quite hard to provide sufficient references for an article about a public figure that has been erased from musical history. But I can assure you I have tried my best to be as accurate as possible.
It has taken me some time to compile this document; a document about a person who I fear may unjustly slip through the cracks of time. I hope you can relate to my anxiety about the speed of the modern world. People are so focused on the next Kanye West, Taylor Swift or who-have-you, that artists like Hank Purvis are forgotten. It would mean a great deal if there was somehow a way of un-deleting the article I have put so much effort in creating. I understand that you may be busy and you may have other priorities, but from one grumpy old man to another, I hope you can find time to rectify this clerical error. Yours sincerely, Frank Foucault — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrankFoucault (talk • contribs) 17:56, 17 November 2018 (UTC)