User talk:Nihonjoe

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新規作成、加筆、修正依頼

はじめまして、Hattoです。このたびは俺が立ち上げたウィキプロジェクトWikipedia:WikiProject Gaijin tarentoに加入してくれて誠にありがとうございます。そして、立ち上げてはいませんが、俺も加入しているWikipedia:WikiProject Owaraiにも参加しているNihonjoeさんだということでお願いがあるのですが、記事の新規作成ならびにすでに作られている英語版の記事の加筆と修正を行ってもらいたいのですが、よろしいですか？新規作成して欲しい記事は「外人タレント」として知られ、作家のアルベール・カミュを大叔父に持つセイン・カミュ（Thane Camus）の英語版の記事です。ボビー・オロゴンともテレビ番組で共演し、キレイな日本語を話すタレントだけに、英語版の記事が必要かなと感じたためです。あと、お笑いプロジェクトにも参加しているのならば、やって欲しいのですが、ぜひとも爆笑問題、ふかわりょう、江頭2:50の記事の文章を満遍なく加筆して頂ければと思うのですが、いいですか？もし、修正が必要だと思ったら、それをしても構いません。お返事待ってます。--Hatto 07:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Category discussion

"You make me feel warm and fuzzy all over" -- Gotta admit, you made me laugh! :-) Cheers, The Minister of War ^(Peace) 22:15, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Glad I could help. (^_^) I just thought William was getting a little too uptight abotu the whole thing. I actually think "subdivision" is fine. I don't think he knows what he's talking about when it comes to that, as "subdivision" can be (and is) used for many things outside of a housing project. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 22:46, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Japanese Names

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I've actually been working on a particular article for a while, it's about Japanese experimental musicians (Japanese noise artists) at List of Japanoise artists; I've basically been finding the names myself through google searches, though it's tedious when you don't know how to read any Japanese. If you could help me, what I'm trying to do is get the Japanese spellings of the names of the main people of this underground music scene, in Kanji, and the names of their bands/projects in Kana. As you can see at List of Japanoise artists I have a few names of persons, like Merzbow (Masami Akita / 秋田昌美), & names of projects too like; Masonna / マゾンナ

If you could help me fill out this one page, I could do all the other work and add the full names to the individual pages. Thanks a lot for offering some help, I'd be grateful for whatever assistence you could give! Nagelfar 00:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

About the WP:MOS-JA, it states that names should come in English order according to the article on the individual specifically, not when internally linked on a list; as a list would you think it should be indexed just as any other name with a comma, surname first, for alphabetical purposes? At Wikipedia:Lists (stand-alone lists) it doesn't get very specific on this. Nagelfar 05:35, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm thinking I'm right; sorry to ask to bring you in & revert something on you ;-) doesn't feel very polite of me. We can bring it over to the MoS pages and ask them. How certain MoS articles pertain in other contexts like lists isn't covered very well. Nagelfar 05:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. I clarified the WP:MOS-JA as you were right that it wasn't clear that the name guidelines applied to names outside of articles specifically about a person. The original intent of the guidelines was to apply to all instances, not just in articles about a specific person. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 16:39, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Kaisha vs. Gaisha

Thanks for your comment. Point taken that pronunciation can vary within Japan between Kaisha and Gaisha, and K.K. is common in titles of companies. I guess this is splitting hairs, but...

My rationale was that when a company has made the decision to include K.K. in the romanized version of 株式会社, rather than "Co.Ltd.," or "Corp.," to go with it; e.g. 浜松ホトニクス株式会社 give their Romanized name as Hamamatsu Photonics K.K., therefore

Hamamatsu Photonics K.K. (浜松ホトニクス株式会社, Hamamatsu Hotonikusu Kabushiki Kaisha)

On the other hand:

• according to the ja: article style manual, romanization in parenthesis in Hepburn should give "a fair indication of Japanese pronunciation to the intended audience of English speakers". The dictionaries intended for English speakers that use regular Hepburn that I have seen tend to romanize this as Kabushiki-gaisha.
• On the ja: K.K. article wiki page, they give the pronunciation as かぶしきがいしゃ
• If you run 株式会社 through an online transliteration machine (e.g. [1] a really useful resource) you will end up with "kabushikigaisha".
• When entering via wapuro (at least on a Mac!) kabushikigaisha gives 株式会社, kabushikikaisha gives 株式界者

(And of course, there's the whole issue of whether it should be hyphenated, separate words or all one word -- all 3 versions seem to be common!) Seann 09:25, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Images

Hi, Joe. One of your colleagues asked me to drop you a note. I see that you have far more edits than I, and that we share a few things in common (a spice addiction being just one of the many). Obviously, you are a thoughtful contributor, so I don't want to offend in any way, but as I understand it, the use of fair use images on userpages is not considered appropriate. Maybe I've got it wrong, but that's what I gleaned from WP:USER. Your thoughts? Ya hya chouhada, Kaisershatner 13:38, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Joe, I appreciate your response. The last thing on my mind is to cause you stress, so I hope it's not a big deal. And you're right that the ultimate fault lies with the creators of those userboxes, and probably also about people needing to be more patient. Thanks again. Kaisershatner 17:00, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Album covers

What gives you the impression that album covers can be used to illustrate a biographical article. The image description template Template:Albumcover says, that album covers used "solely to illustrate the album or single in question" qualify as fair use. I understand that to mean that you can't use them in other articles (except perhaps in the discography section). - Nat Krause^(Talk!) 00:10, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Then move the image down to the discography section rather than just deleting it, if that's what you think it means. However, as the articles are specifically about the artist who created the albums, using one or more album covers in the article to illustrate that artist's particular works is perfectly acceptable. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 00:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

No, I think it would be cheating to move the image down to the discography section—it was clearly put there in the first place with the intention of decorating the biographical article. I say "perhaps", but what I really mean is that I don't think you can, but I'm not sure so I'm not going to start removing them yet. And I have yet to see anything that gives me a reason to believe that it is at all acceptable to use an album cover at the top of a bio article. In any event, you (or whoever adds it to the article) should explain the rationale on the image description page, which has not been done so far. - Nat Krause^(Talk!) 00:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

East Sea

Since when providing the NPOV information is considered to be a vandalism? Also I don't believe that the blunt threat of blocking is a substitute for discussion. I do understand that people are working hard to collect and present an information. I did a lot of research myself regarding this issue as part of my thesis. The real purpose of my edit was presenting unbiased information. I would really appreciate if you stop reverting the changes and keeping the biased info on the page. Thank you --Em1ko 01:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

K

Thank you. P.S. Boondocks is a show which is airing on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim. kniaz April 23, 2006