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Okay, so I am heading the movement to keep these substances from being pigeon-holed into S-Methylmethionine. Someone else tried to put some irrelevance, mostly Cheney, into that article. It's archived here. 137.186.41.70 (talk) 19:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This article needs reliable sources that show that Vitamin U is the prominent name for this substance and not something else like S-Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride as in: Lee, Na Young; Park, Kui Young; Min, Hye Jung; Song, Kye Yong; Lim, Yun Young; Park, Juhee; Kim, Beom Joon; Kim, Myeung Nam (2012). "Inhibitory Effect of Vitamin U (S-Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride) on Differentiation in 3T3-L1 Pre-adipocyte Cell Lines". Annals of Dermatology. 24 (1): 39–44. doi:10.5021/ad.2012.24.1.39. PMC 3283849. PMID 22363154. —Chris Capoccia ^T⁄_C 20:10, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That comes through with the fact that most of the substances in the article are not clearly related to methylmethionine, and yet they are both: components of cabbage and beneficial. For example, Broccoli sprouts are category:antibiotics with action action against Helicobacter Pylori. The relevant chemical is not strong enough in cabbage to cause an in vitro effect. I bring up H. Pylori, because the conventional treatment for peptic ulcer iz antibiotics. In other words, if you could not afford a Gastroenterolgist, you might get away with wikipedia and B.S. :) 137.186.41.70 (talk) 20:58, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable Medical Sources

This article needs reliable medical sources like systematic reviews and not primary research. If the substance called Vitamin U is the same as S-Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride, then reliable sources should be provided about its benefit or lack therof because Cheney's claim of benefit would be contradicted by Kopinski, JS; Fogarty, R; McVeigh, J (2007). "Effect of s-methylmethionine sulphonium chloride on oesophagogastric ulcers in pigs". Australian Veterinary Journal. 85 (9): 362–7. doi:10.1111/j.1751-0813.2007.00197.x. PMID 17760939. —Chris Capoccia ^T⁄_C 20:19, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relevance

137.186.41.70, you keep adding more and more stuff that is only tangentially related to S-Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride (Vitamin U). Are you trying to write an article about health benefits of cabbage? Or are you trying to write an article about S-Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride (Vitamin U)? I think only the first sentence is on topic, and the rest of the article is just about health benefits of cabbage. —Chris Capoccia ^T⁄_C 14:15, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you just want to write about health benefits of cabbage, maybe the best place would be Cabbage#Medicinal properties. —Chris Capoccia ^T⁄_C 14:23, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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It has been proposed in this section that Vitamin U be renamed and moved to Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride.

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Vitamin U → Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride – According to the NCI Thesaurus, Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride is the preferred name. Vitamin U and S-Methymethionine Chloride are among the synonyms. —Chris Capoccia ^T⁄_C 18:23, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 This article needs reliable sources that show that Vitamin U is the prominent name for this substance and not something else like S-Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride as in: {{cite journal |doi=10.5021/ad.2012.24.1.39 |title=Inhibitory Effect of Vitamin U (S-Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride) on Differentiation in 3T3-L1 Pre-adipocyte Cell Lines |year=2012 |last1=Lee |first1=Na Young |last2=Park |first2=Kui Young |last3=Min |first3=Hye Jung |last4=Song |first4=Kye Yong |last5=Lim |first5=Yun Young |last6=Park |first6=Juhee |last7=Kim |first7=Beom Joon |last8=Kim |first8=Myeung Nam |journal=Annals of Dermatology |volume=24 |pages=39–44 |pmid=22363154 |issue=1 |pmc=3283849}} &nbsp;&nbsp;—[[User:Chris_Capoccia |Chris Capoccia]]  <sup>[[User talk:Chris_Capoccia|T]]</sup>&#8260;<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Chris_Capoccia|C]]</sub> 20:10, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
+:That comes through with the fact that most of the substances in the article are not clearly related to [[methylmethionine]], and yet they are both: components of cabbage and beneficial. For example, [[Broccoli sprouts]] are [[:category:antibiotics]] with action action against [[Helicobacter Pylori]]. The relevant chemical is not strong enough in cabbage to cause an in vitro effect. I bring up H. Pylori, because the conventional treatment for peptic ulcer iz antibiotics. In other words, if you could not afford a Gastroenterolgist, you might get away with wikipedia and B.S. :) [[Special:Contributions/137.186.41.70|137.186.41.70]] ([[User talk:137.186.41.70|talk]]) 20:58, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 == Reliable Medical Sources ==