User talk:AmiDaniel

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AmiDaniel will be taking a short wikibreak to get ready for exams starting on 30 April 06, and he will be back on Wikipedia once the exams are over on 20 May 06. Please reserve inquiries about VandalProof for the appropriate forum, and please direct any matters requiring his immediate attention to a moderator. Thanks.

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Mirador Instant Mesenger

I have added a description for Mirador Instant Messenger since it is a server based instant messenger solution if i need to edit portion of the text then i will do it but there are descriptions for sametime live server etc so what should i do exactly to keep the listing —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Upswing (talk • contribs) 17:28, 2 November 2024 UTC [refresh].

Why even bother re-creating the article? If it is obviously an advertisement, and will just end up at AfD again, shouldn't WP:SNOW be considered? --Hetar 06:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm ... I tend to disagree. 23.100 hits on Google means it has at least some notability; I feel the writing wasn't particularly encyclopedic, but it has a lot of room to improve. I certainly don't think that WP:SNOW would come into the question, but let's give the article some time and see where it's at in a week or so. If it hasn't improved then I will personally nominate it for AfD. AmiDaniel (Talk) 07:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Moderator offer

I'd love to be a moderator; however, if turning me into one causes too much stress and work, then I'd rather you don't for your sake. But if there is an opening, sure! P.S. Also, I like the edit summaries; especially the Rammstein. :P _-M ^o P-_ 06:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

And I noticed that my Awards page has been going around a bit. Nice to see that my evil plan for world domination on Wikipedia is working. >:) _-M ^o P-_ 06:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Note: These were posted above, but I think you missed them as they were hidden away.

Ahh ... sorry. I really need to get better at checking to see if more than one message has been posted for me lol. I forgot to add you to the mods. Let me do that in a sec, and it's no trouble at all. Oh, and I hope you don't mind, but I rearranged and modified the userbox you put on my userpage--it gave me a whole new row of boxes! lol AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:13, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, it isn't any problem at all :) And just a question, do we get a manual? As if we do, I'd like to read it so I know what my tasks are. However, I should go sleep soon; good night, and thanks! :) _-M ^o P-_ 06:21, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Ditto here... I don't think I have been added either... sorry!!!Eagle (talk) (desk) 06:23, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and my Vandalproof, for some reason, doesn't want to let me use the top 8 rollback buttons; they're always grey. _-M ^o P-_ 06:38, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

(carriage return), yeah, thats another bug... The solution for me was to 1) go to file>startpage or 2) exit the program and reopen.

I get that every once in a while too, but I simply log back in... I really forgot to report that... :-(... don't kill me.Eagle (talk) (desk) 07:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I reloaded Monobook twice outside of Vandalproof and inside it; exited and reopened 3 times; still no change. _-M ^o P-_ 07:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Uh, are you logged in??? and have you hit "update???". Else, you have a bug, and it needs to go on the bug page... Problem is that this program is not written in my primary language... I get the "gist" but the specifics, I can't help beyond recognizing patterns and bugs that I have had... such as the timers misfiring:-).(also because I don't have source code just a reason, not a request... sorry AmiDaniel:-))Eagle (talk) (desk) 07:17, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, but I am dead tired right now. I'll have to deal with this tomorrow--you can leave it here or add it to the bugs page. Good news is that I, more or less, finished the stub sorter. Parsing the fucking data from Wikipedia:Stub types into the tree was an absolute bitch (why does MS have to make all of their controls so goddamn complicated and illogical! and hasn't anyone on Wikipedia considered a table as opposed to a bunch of bullet points mixed in with random and irrelevant text when organizing 1962 various categories of stubs?!?!?!?!?!) But I'm done bitching now ... sorry, insomnia's catching up to me. Anyway, I'll do my best to get back to you (both) tomorrow. Sorry. AmiDaniel (Talk) 07:36, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

_-M ^o P-_ I will leave the choice up to you, though have you tried restarting your computer??? You deciede, bug list or not, if it is still here tommarrow, I will definately move it to the bug page, as that is where we should keep all of the critters.:-)Eagle (talk) (desk) 07:41, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thus, I hereby order you to GO TO BED, we need you in good shape... at least for awhile:-)Eagle (talk) (desk) 07:41, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Mirador Instant Messenger

No worries, if you think it can be kept as notable I have no problems whatsoever with it, its cleaned up a fair bit and not exactly G4. -- Tawker 06:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for your understanding. I'll check back on it in a couple days to see what shape it's in, as I feel this may just be a new user with good intentions who's editing at a slower-than-veteran rate. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Next version

Sorry to ask, but it would be nice to have the next version, as least the bug fixes... that way I can dump about 3 more bugs on you!!! Eagle (talk) (desk) 07:35, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Cheers-- and good night!!!

Oh, and would you like me to archive about half this page for you??? It is getting rather long:-) sorry about that!!!Eagle (talk) (desk) 07:36, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

• falls asleep* Let me get back to you tomorrow, when I'm coherent enought to understand what the word coherent means. AmiDaniel (Talk) 07:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Edge hippies

AmiDaniel: the edge hippies article is straight vanity/OR/nonsense. I am putting it on VFD AFD and taking off the merge tags. This merge suggestion will just start a furore among sXe people who are unfamiliar with Wikipedia protocol, and will involve far more expenditure of energy than can be justified for some kid's narcissistic little project. Mgekelly - Talk 08:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I apologize about the Egdge hippies → Straight edge merger. I was just on my way to bed when I came across that article, and my first instinct was to speedy it but instead, for some odd reason, decided to propose a merger. Afterward, I looked into the topic a bit more, and it only returns something like 30 hits on Google, so I do definitely think it falls under WP:CSD. I totally agree that this kind of article should not be encouraged, and so I'll go vote to delete now. Thanks for your message, and again I apologize for the inconvenience. AmiDaniel (Talk) 17:06, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

That's completely cool. It is really nice to encounter a Wikipedian who is so reasonable! Mgekelly - Talk 00:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

John Lekay

Dear Ami,

Please excuse my editions. Very new to this and trying to figure out how this works.

Ami,

I left the last message. Please excuse me. Forgot to say who I am.

John LeKay www.johnlekay.com

www.heyokamagazine.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Johnlekay (talk • contribs) .

My RfA

Thank you for voting at my RFA. Even though you did not vote for me, your counsel was appreciated. In the next few months, I intend to work on expanding my involvement in other namespaces and try a few different subjects than in the past. - CTSWynekenTalk

Moderators

So that is how you set the Mods! I assume it only works when you do it?

Prodego ^talk 00:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Yep, it only works when I do it. I don't do it that way to be dictatorial; I'm just a lazy programmer :-p. lol. AmiDaniel (Talk) 02:18, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think it would not be smart to let other users add moderators, especially if it were the mods who could do it, because then one person could... Prodego ^talk 02:24, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

By the way, if it is the length of the summary that is the restriction on the number of Mods, you still have 70 characters left (edit summaries hold 200), so you can probably add a few more if you want. Prodego ^talk 02:29, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

More from John

Ami,

Got your message. Very sorry about the mess and apologize for not taking the time to read up on how this works. I am now begining to get a better understanding of this wikipedia process and hope I did not create too much work for you. Just saw all the warnings earlier and deleted them. Another mistake. On a roll today.

Best regards,

John —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Johnlekay (talk • contribs) .

It's no problem at all--lots of respected users got off to fairly rough starts. In the future could you please sign your posts with four tildes, like so: ~~~~. That will produce your username and the time, and it makes it a lot easier for others to contact you. Again, I'm always here to help and will gladly provide any assistance you need, including answering questions you may have about policies and the way things work on Wikipedia. Good luck in the future, and I hope you'll soon learn the ropes and will be able to effectively contribute. Happy hunting! AmiDaniel (Talk) 02:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Page blanking

Hmm... I do know at that time I started up Vandalproof, but it kinda froze on me, so I used Alt+Ctrl+Delete to forcibly kill it. I can't remember making any edits to that page, and the summary is wierd, so I think it may be a bug. _-M ^o P-_ 02:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

More from John

Ami,

Thanks for getting back to me. I belive the Heyoka translation could use more work.

Is this the correct signing off. 

(talk Johnlekay 02:54, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Edge hippies 2

i was just wondering why it is such a big deal and an opposing inconvenience to delete the edge hippies. i dont believe anyone has the right to call someone a sock puppet, as an insult. are the edge hippies discriminative in any possible way? (Talk) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merchantofvenice (talk • contribs) .

It has nothing to do with whether the group insults anyone; it has to do with the fact that the movement is non-notable. A search returns 30 hits on Google, none of which are reliable sources and many of which have nothing to do with the movement itself. If you can find a reputable source to support the notability of the movement, it would likely sway many to your side. Frankly, I believe the article should have been speedily deleted, but in the interest of not insulting its creator (you) I did not tag it as such, which I've now recognized as a mistake. My tagging of these 3 accounts as sock puppets was not meant as an insult but rather as an attempt to prevent potential "ballot stuffing." You've created these accounts in an attempt to convice others that more individuals support the article's inclusion than actually do. Based upon the user creation log and the users' contributions, there is little doubt in my mind that these accounts are indeed sockpuppets, but if they are not sockpuppets then please substantiate your claim by requesting a CheckUser. AmiDaniel (Talk) 04:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

More from John

Ami,

Please take a look at the heyoka discusion page. I worked on the Heyoka page some more.

I moved the Bean bag and heyoka magazine underneith the important text. The national park man had it wrong. He should look at this national park. www.silkwoodproject.com

He will learn something very important most people have no clue about. Johnlekay 04:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Evil Grey

I was just wondering if you could shed some light on my problem; I'm forced to use VandalProof without any of the cool features, because for some wierd reason, the "Revert/warn" buttons are always greyed out. When a page loads, first the I.E. error thing flashes up, then the buttons flash from grey to black and back. I'm not sure how to correct this (have uninstalled and reinstalled a few times). _-M ^o P-_ 06:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Did this begin happening before I after I made you a moderator? It seems as though you've had a few difficulties since then, thus my question. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:45, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I believe it was happenening before, yes. _-M ^o P-_ 06:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm ... are you also getting IE script errors frequently when VP loads pages (this should hopefully be fixed in the next version). I posted a temporary fix for this on the bugs page that might help here. Are you still able to use the tabs--recent changes, watchlist, etc.? AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I can use everything except the rollback buttons at the top when viewing a diff, and these are the main method of reverting vandalism. And yes, I do get the annoying popup error thing, but I downloaded your application that kills it. _-M ^o P-_ 07:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Disregard my e-mail request

Hi, I haven't seen you have tests, or else I wouldn't have bothered you. Either way, I managed to salvage the bulk of my black list through my vandalism log, and VandalProof works fine after re-installing. Good luck with your exam! --Chodorkovskiy ^(talk) 06:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem at all. I'm not on Wikibreak yet--starting this weekend (you can thank the collegeboard! lol). Anyway, I'm a little confused as this is the first I've heard of your problem. I'm glad you got it fixed, whatever it was though. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I sent you an e-mail yerstaday, asking for you to send me your black list, since I accidentally deleted mine. Maybe there was a glitch in Wikipedia. --Chodorkovskiy ^(talk) 06:53, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. My junk mail filter weeds out every message from people not on my safe list. I hope others haven't tried to email me and not gotten any response; maybe I should put a note about that here. Anyway, glad you got it sorted out--The next version of VP will have global whitelists/blacklists, which I think will be an excellent boost to the tool's functionality. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: delete please

To continue User_talk:AmiDaniel/Archive3#delete_please...

I didn't know about {{db-author}}, I've always used {{delete}}. I learn something new (almost) every day!

and now for something completely different...

I'm not doing much VandalProof stuff (since it keeps giving me script errors and not acknowledging my sign-in), but I've also had troubles with IE so I've deleted the IE .exe until I can resolve the issue (which isn't VandalProof) but I'll moderate the pages/requests for now and if there's anything you need, just let me know.

A plate of cookies while you're studying!

File:Champkitty.jpg

A cute kitten on your lap while you eat those cookies.

— nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 07:17, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the cookies and the kitty! I actually should be in bed right now, but instead I'm reorganizing my new CDs (I have a serious addiction to new CDs... keep me away from the record store!) Today I bought:

• The Cure by Atreyu → Soooo emocore, but actually not that bad
• War Within → I've seen Shadows Fall live, met them, and have an autographed poster hanging in my room, but this is the first of their CDs I've bought lol.
• Two by Earshot → Not the best ever, but decent.
• and L.A. Woman → Who doesn't love The Doors?

Anyway more than you wanted to know lol ... so sleepy. But yeah, I'm sorry about your problems with VP; I think I've got the script errors cured in the next release, though the temp fix on the bugs page might help for now. It will likely be a while before I get 1.2 ready for download, but I am working on it. Thanks again. AmiDaniel (Talk) 07:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. Yeah, I know of the bug fix and have it here. Something on my system is making MSIE connect to random ports on IP 1.2.3.4 (all spyware programs I have report nothing), so yeah..I deleted MSIE for now.

Don't attempt to talk and sleep at the same time, sleepyhead *puts a blanket over you* It's that time for me too. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 08:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Enjoy your Wikibreak!

Enjoy your break Daniel, I have just returned from one myself (in case you were wondering why I've been so quiet!) Will hold the reigns in your absense. Have a great one! - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 09:53, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Good luck with your exams...

...just wondering, it sounds like you'll be facing either GCSEs or A-Levels, which one is it? Good luck! -- gtdp ^(T)/_(C) 19:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

...for adding that comment to my post on WP:AIV. My first couple of posts there, so I'm still getting the hang of it. Anyway did you see the other post I made to the page? What do you think of that? Should I have reported that or sorted it out myself?

Thanks

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 21:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem at all. I personally feel that Wankash (talk · contribs) is just a confused newbie trying to make a WP:POINT. It's clearly not appropriate for him to do that, but I wouldn't call it vandalism just yet. If you remove the tag and he replaces it again, etc., despite warnings then it may be worthing posting an alert. Typically WP:AIV is only used for reporting obvious vandalism, and in only in cases where the user has been sufficiently warned and continued to vandalize within two hours of receiving a final warning. 21:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Elvis Presley

I think we should remove the section "Mama's Boy" from the Elvis Presley page. There is no credible source to suggest that Presley had sex with his mother. No reputable biographer as ever made that statement and the user (Onefortyone) who is pushing the change has a history of citing to questionable sources, purposefully misinterpreting secondary sources, and overtly pushing his own agenda on the Presley page. I think we need significant evidence before we accuse someone, in an encyclopedia no less, of incest.

Lochdale —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lochdale (talk • contribs) .

Not vandalism: warning removed. See the user's talk page or Incorrectly Reverted Edits for more details. AmiDaniel (Talk) 22:34, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

It should be noted that Lochdale repeatedly removed content from the Elvis Presley article simply because the well-sourced paragraphs were not in line with his personal opinion. I think this is vandalism. See, for instance, [1], [2], [3], [4] and [5], etc., etc.Onefortyone 22:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

You are wrong, Lochdale. The section should not be removed, as it is well-sourced. There are quotes from a book by reputed Elvis biographer Peter Guralnick and many other books on Elvis. The claims by the singer's stepmother that Elvis had sex with his mother, are discussed by reputed Elvis expert Greil Marcus in his book, Double Trouble: Bill Clinton and Elvis Presley in a Land of No Alternativse (2000), p.3 and 6. Onefortyone 22:33, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually it isn't well sourced. You have twisted sources in an effort to push your own agenda. For example, of the 2,000 plus books written about Presley, you managed to find two that even come close to supporting your position. You have what can only be described as an obsession with Presley's sex life. The quotes from Guralnik that Elvis was close with his mother do not say, suggest or even imply that Elvis was having an incestual relationship with her. To say that they do is an out and out fabrication. Moreover, Elvis' stepmother makes these claims in an unpublished manuscript that is so out of left field that noone will actually publish it. Lastly, Marcus does not claim that Presley had an incestous relationship with his mother. You either misrepresent sources or provide less than credible sources. The section should be removed. Lochdale

This may be your personal opinion. Marcus clearly cites sources which deal with the claim. You cannot deny that I have quoted from several independent sources (books and articles on Elvis). Significantly, there was also the claim by User:Ted Wilkes, who has now been blocked for one year, that my contributions are fabrications. The personal agenda of Lochdale, who seems to be an Elvis fan, is to remove critical content from the article page. See his contributions: [6], [7], [8], [9] and [10], etc. But this is not the way it works here. Onefortyone 22:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Comment' Could you please move this discussion to Talk:Elvis Presley? I'm having to archive my talk page on a biweekly basis as it is and would rather not constantly be prompted that I have new messages everytime you two respond to each other about a matter in which I'm not involved. Thanks. AmiDaniel (Talk) 23:05, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Some amazing way to talk in private prior to 4/30?

--_{Avillia (RfC vs CVU) 22:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)}

• scratches head* Are you asking if I would be available to talk to you in private prior to 4/30? If so, then I'll probably be free tonight in IRC or wherever. AmiDaniel (Talk) 22:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

What's your IRC username? --_{Avillia (RfC vs CVU) 00:15, 28 April 2006 (UTC)}

Waiit :P

If you wish, you can take me off, but I figured out what was doing it. I opened up the moderator tools thing to approve users; both times, a bunch of messages flashed up which I closed. I think thats it. So if I avoid using that, I should be good. P.S. I use Firefox, not IE. _-M ^o P-_ 01:30, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

A less serious form of the Undefined bug just occurred, Stollery had the bug. Prodego ^talk 18:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Adminship

Would you accept a nomination, your additions have been amazing and the tools could surely help you out a bit. I noticed just today that you investigate AIV a lot, perhaps the shiny buttons would be of good use to you. Would you accept a nomination at this time? -- Tawker 05:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I'd second that motion, but I don't think he has the time. Then again, who am I to tell people what to do... AmiDaniel! Whatever your decision is, I (and I'm sure everyone else here as well) will support you. --Chodorkovskiy ^(talk) 05:11, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Damn! we had an edit conflict of thoughts, Tawker. I was gonna do the same! Anyway, Daniel was very helpful to me last night in WP:AIV & I was wondering "Damn, why is this guy not yet an admin?" Anyway if you don't mind Tawker, I would like to co-nominate him. Of course, If you accept, Daniel.. Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 05:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, Tawker (and thanks for your support, Chodorkovskiy and Srikeit!), and I would most graciously accept the nomination in a couple of weeks; however, I'm just now going into some very stressful times with school (thus my WikiBreak above). I certainly feel that I could use SysOp tools for a lot of good (helping to stop vandalism, assisting new users with complicated page moves, speedily deleting pages, etc.)--if anything I could incorporate SysOp features into my app. I've actually studied the tools quite extensively in an attempt to find a way to incorporate them, but in the end found them too difficult to implement without being able to use them myself. I am a little concerned, however, that I don't quite live up to the RfA standards--it seems that most users like to see 6 months experience (whereas I've really only been around since Feb) and most oppose RfA's when the user has not helped to bring an article to featured status (which I have not). In any case, I'm quite humbled that you, the owner of the world renowned (or at least Wikirenowned) Tawkerbot and Tawkerbot2, as well as an excellent admin, would nominate me for adminship. Thanks! I will definitely accept once I'm done with my exams. AmiDaniel (Talk) 05:29, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi there - I'm pretty sure that < 5% of successful RfA candidates actually have done an FA. The time factor may be discounted in ligh tof Vandal Proof of course.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 05:32, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, making a tool that is the next big Popups isn't a small thing. I'd gladly support you. _-M _o P-_ 05:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

From the Internal Edit Counter;

Total edits 5600

Distinct pages edited 3135

Average edits/page 1.786

First edit 07:01, 9 January 2006

(main) 1515

Talk 47

User 761

User talk 2992

Image 16

Image talk 3

Template 6

Template talk 2

Help 1

Category 1

Category talk 1

Wikipedia 205

Wikipedia talk 50

If anyone opposed that record, I'm afraid I would have to call a few hits. _-M _o P-_ 05:35, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

If/when the RfA succeeds, you've got to outdo Tawker; I expect cake and ice cream. Joe 06:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, VandalProof is in the same scope as Tawkerbot2, now if only I could fix this javascript error and get it to work :o -- Tawker 06:00, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I was also going to drop you a message about nominating you for adminship. I was just waiting until the end of May when you'd be back from your Wikibreak. In my experience, editcountis is definitely there. Your numbers look fine to me, but I think having 300+ project edits would go pretty far in pleasing some. At your rate, you'll probably have that many if you wait until you get back from your Wikibreak anyway. You also certainly don't need FA experience to become an admin. However, people also look to your article contributions but your work on Sinzig and Götter Auf Abruf looks good to me. As mentioned previously, the other issue is time. Just ask Tawker about how people like to see time. That will probably be the only thing to get you any opposes, although I am very confident your RfA would pass. Personally, I'd love for VP to be able to integrate admin rollback and possibly a blocking mechanism. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 10:21, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

{{prod)} tag

Hi Daniel, just a wee heads up that the prod function needs to be changed to be {{subst:prod)} as it somes up with an error at mo. No biggie just FYI. God bless! - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 18:57, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

AIV

➨ ≡ЯΞDVΞRS≡ awards this Barnstar to AmiDaniel for tireless vandalism hunting and putting in the hard work Wikipedia needs.

Thanks for helping out on WP:AIV. The extra hand is most welcome and appreciated. ➨ ≡ЯΞDVΞRS≡ 22:10, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar! I'm glad to hear that my actions on WP:AIV have been found to be helpful. AmiDaniel (Talk) 23:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

what did i do? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chelseachav (talk • contribs) 17:28, 2 November 2024 UTC [refresh].

i didnt do anything wrong and you are giving me warnings. all i wrote was that he was a liverpool fc supporter and you have a go at me?????? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chelseachav (talk • contribs) 17:28, 2 November 2024 UTC [refresh].

Many complaints have been raised about your contributions to these articles including a request for administrative intervention. Consensus among the major contributors to these articles is that you have been intentionally inserting false information into these articles, which constitutes vandalism. Please stop at once and do not make any more changes to these articles without discussing them first. AmiDaniel (Talk) 23:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and assumed good faith. Some of his earlier edits were clearly vandalism, but the newer ones seemed more like newbie mistakes and a genuine good faith effort. I have left a more detailed explanation on his/her talk page. However, if the user continues to make poor edits, please relist on WP:AIV. WP has had some great editors that have gotten off to a slow start and are now a real asset to the community, so I'm trying not to bite the newbie. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 23:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Yep, I agree with your reasons. I sort of jumped the gun on the last two in light of history rather than assuming good faith. I also responded on his talk page in the form of an edit conflict lol. AmiDaniel (Talk) 23:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I tend to agree that many of our better contributors got off to fairly rough starts--it takes a while to learn the ropes. I agree that blocking him when his intention was to contribute in good faith would be biting the newbie, so I think this probably is best. I just wish that he would slow down and try discussing these changes before implementing (and if he would use edit summaries!! grr lol). Anyway, thanks for your help. AmiDaniel (Talk) 23:43, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Bug page

Do you mind if I put old (fixed on current release) bugs on an archive. This will make the bug report page easier to read, and shorter. Thanks for making me a moderator, I will soon begin to update bugs, right now I think we have most of them on the startup page.Eagle (talk) (desk) 00:18, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

P.s. Enjoy your wikibreak!!!.../ studying:-

rfa

thanks for your kind words on my RFA AmiDaniel. Heh, I always laugh when I see your name, because I AM daniel. Anyway, good luck on your exams. I hope you do better than I did on mine =P ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 00:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Antarctica

It is a true statement that the geographic south pole is the magnetic north pole. Look up magnetism on a physics website. I'm in AP physics. I know what I'm talking about. 24.163.169.250 05:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Hate to tell you that's not true. I've taken a few MIT physics courses, plus these references: ref 1, ref 2, ref 3, ref 4, etc. It is a fact, though, that the magnetic poles flip occasionally (maybe every 10,000 years or so). But now, the south magnetic pole is indeed in the southern hemisphere. If you don't mind, please post your references. Nationalparks 05:19, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Thanks, Nationalparks! You got back to him with sources before I even had a chance to read his comment! In any case, if that edit had been in good faith it would have been his first (he just got blocked a few moments ago). AmiDaniel (Talk) 05:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I made good edits to the Ann Coulter article.

--Daveinaustin 05:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC)--Daveinaustin 05:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC) I am going to bed now, but I will go through them line by line tomorrow, and I'll cite specific sources. For instance, it is very clear (established fact) that

• Franken's accusations against Coulter in the book Lies and the Lying Liars were 90 percent wrong! He got one tiny, silly error about Dale Earnhardt right, but was wrong on all else (and half right on a Newsweek editors father, who was confused with grandfather); I have read both Franken's book and all of Coulters. I know what I am talking about. I will cite chapter and verse when I make the changes again.

• All the other edits I made were responsible. For instance, there were a bunch of links/footnotes about alleged "racism" by coulter . . if you follow the links, it turns out they don't refer to racism at all!

I'll go through all the other edits, too. Whoever has been reverting my stuff on this, franken, and david remnick, is dead wrong. I have probably read more of all their stuff than virtually anyone on here. Really. I am not a crank.

If you were sincere, then you'll have my apologies, amongst those of others. But one hallmark of cranks and vandals on Wikipedia is their refusal to use the talk page and edit summary to gain consensus for their actions, or even to provide a justification. Please use edit summaries and the talk page in the future so you can demonstrate your good intentions. Kasreyn 08:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

RfC Help

Hi there. I'm a bit new to wikipedia so I was wondering if you could perhaps help me out. I'm sure that you've seen a few examples of what the user Daveinaustin has been doing as of late, and I'd like to have a RfC concerning this. Do you think you could help me out here? I'm a bit clueless as to how I should go about it.

Thanks!

Mister Mister 06:16, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I've seen what he's doing to the Ann Coulter article--adding POV statements and removing legitimate assertions. In looking at the page's history, he has indeed reverted three times (thus violating WP:3RR) but as he is now inactive a block would be quite unnecessary at this time. It seems as though he's just begun this today, so I feel an WP:RfC would be a bit of an overkill. If he continues with this again later, you should add {{3RR}} to his talk page and if he refuses to stop then report him to an administrator (though 3RR blocks are usually short--maybe 24-48 hours). Then you may want to consider mediation or opening an RfC, but for now I'd say to just try and open up a line of communication with him and explain what's wrong with his edits. He's a very new user with a very strong opinion who hasn't quite grasped that this is an encyclopedia article rather than a persuasive essay, so make that clear to him. I'm starting my Wikibreak tomorrow, so I likely won't be able to help you if you need to take the matter further; however, I'd suggest if you continue to have problems that you contact an administrator (I'd suggest User:PS2pcGAMER as he seems very level-headed and good at dealing with newbies). I'll still be available for a couple of hours though, so I'll be able to help you out as much as I can tonight. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:27, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

AIV

I agree with your removing 206.207.158.202 from the list because it has not vandalized for awhile, but you were dead wrong in calling it a content dispute, see [11] and you might also want to see the rest of his contribs. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 06:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I just went to look at his contribs after you posted this and saw that he has posted the same nonsense on Hillary's article yet again (after a one hour pause ... must be passing period or something). I totally agree that such edits are vandalism, and have relisted him on AIV. I merely remarked that many of his reverted edits were content disputes as some of them appeared arguably in good faith (though closer examination of his contributions to Nader and Clinton shows that he really was just adding nonsense). The lesbian thing is outright blatant vandalism, and his constant reinsertion of it should warrant a block. Sorry for my faulty edit summary, and thanks for pointing this out to me. AmiDaniel (Talk) 07:05, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem, at least the vandals have a sense of humor, otherwise it would be boring... Though I can hardly say that the Hillary Clinton lesbian thing is original. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 07:07, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Nope, not particularly original, though it is refreshing to see politicaly-minded vandalism as opposed to the typical "FALLOUT BOY SUCKS!" (can't get more unoriginal than that, although I have to agree). Who knows, maybe this vandal was Sean Hannity himself! lol AmiDaniel (Talk) 07:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

VP

Hello, I answered on my talk page. --Mbimmler 08:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Bestätigung auf deutscher Seite abgegeben. --Mbimmler 20:34, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

User:Mbimmler

Cool that he's been added just makes me look stupid for all my recommendations to him just yesterday I guess - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 21:34, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

No, not stupid at all--you were totally in the right. I just recently saw a similar situation with an AWB user, thus why I decided to look into it a bit more. You're certainly not expected to research every possible account that a user could have on every possible Wikipedia, and if a user ever complains that he has a very active account on another Wiki and you would rather I look into it, please drop me a note. I really wish that all of these accounts could become more centralized so that when a user creates an account on en, it also works on Wiktionary, de, ru, etc.--it would make life a hellofalot easier. AmiDaniel (Talk) 22:14, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply :) I actually did look into his edits and even translated maybe a dozen or so and he is a good editor no doubt. I simply asked if he could do a bit more here first as he was only showing I think maybe 30 mainspace edits here (no antivan stuff) and I just wanted to be sure he had a polite manner about him in english. I would and do look at other wikis when brought to my attention but as i said just wanted to check we had no translation issues. After explaining all that to him it became obvious by his replies that this wasn't an issue in any case, so all's well that end's well :) Do you have your email enabled from wiki BTW? If not you may wanna flick it to me so you can get studying! :) you know we can hold the fort down here! lol - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 23:51, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

GeorgeMoney

I just want to make sure that my approval of GeorgeMoney is OK with you, although this user has less then 250 article edits, his editing history seemed good, so I approved him. If you believe approving him was incorrect, remove him from the authorized users, and let me know. Thanks, Prodego ^talk 23:53, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I think you made a good call here (+1500 edits in all namespaces means he's quite active), and edit count certainly shouldn't be the definitive standard in approving/not approving (keep in mind that it only takes two seconds to remove a user from the list if s/he abuses the tool!). I entirely trust your judgment and will leave it up to you and the other mods to decide who to accept or reject--just because I wrote the tool, I have no more say in who may or may not use it than you or any other mod (or user for that matter), and I'd hope that you'd challenge me when I make a bad call (which I'm entirely capable of!). Anyway, I completely trust your judgment, and there's no need to seek my permission to accept a user who does not entirely meet the guideline. Thanks for holding down the fort in my absence! AmiDaniel (Talk) 01:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

As requested...

Now, pretend that's real and get studying Mr! :) - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 01:40, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

And, to help you in your quest for a true Wikibreak, I've added you to my VP blacklist (you're only the second non-IP editor there; having warned myself experimentally when first I got the program, I was added, and I've kept myself there, if only because oftentimes one personality will vandalize and the next will have to revert), so if I see a lot of contributions from you, I'll have to come here and castigate you. Then again, I've found that dropping out of school (in part) in order to devote one's time exclusively to Wikipedia isn't all that bad, notwithstanding, of course, that some employers, for whatever reason, seem to prefer actual college degrees to Wikipedia edit counts on a resumé. Joe 05:37, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Lol, yes the thought has crossed my mind to drop out. I think I'll try to finish the whole school thing though--may come in handy in the future. By the way, you may want to add this IP to your blacklist (I've blocked myself from logging in as AmiDaniel). 71.213.171.224 05:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Easy solution: Edit C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\lmhosts (rename lmhosts.sam to lmhosts and edit that instead if it's there) and add:

127.0.0.1 en.wikipedia.org

127.0.0.1 www.wikipedia.org

...then you will never be able to get to Wikipedia during your break ;) (as long as you remember to edit it back) — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 03:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

This is kind of off topic, but here goes!

Wouldn't he have to add the file extension back on? And there is an easier way to edit a file without changing the extention.

Put the following into a text file and rename the extension to .reg:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\gview]
@="Open With Notepad"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\gview\command]
@="C:\\WINDOWS\\NOTEPAD.EXE %1"

then, right click on the .reg file, and select merge. Then a menu will pop up that says, "Are you sure you want to add the information in the file "location of file" to the registry?". Press yes . Now, in the right-click menu of every file, there will be an option to "Open With Notepad".

--GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 04:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Welcome template

That's actually {{welcomeg}} (yes, the g signifies that it's the 7th of its kind; there are a lot of welcome templates), which happened to be someone else's personal welcome template and was moved to template space a bit ago. I do agree that a welcomebot would be great; the only downside is that it might somehow be slightly less meaningful than when I welcome people as fast as I can to annoy people in #vandalism-en-wp that have me on their blacklist. --Rory096 03:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends

I'm sorry for not providing an edit summary, but I only deleted those articles because there is no concrete proof of them. It was someone else who was vandalising the page. I was only fixing it. Please change it back to how it was after I fixed it. TOP 04:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

need a wikibreak but just can't leave?

Here is what you do,

1. take a deep breath
2. remove all the stuff about a wikibreak
3. and finally quit school

Then you will never need a wikibreak again. ILovEPlankton 05:26, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Here is how to stay on wikibreak

Just use this script to keep you on your wikibreak. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 05:30, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Makes me a little uncomfortable, but I'm desperate. Let's see how it goes. Goodbye Wikipedia! AmiDaniel (Talk) 05:34, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Alright, well now I can't log in, but I can still edit as 71.213.171.224. Hopefully it will at least help though lol. Thanks! 71.213.171.224 05:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I should suggest a range IP block, or, if worst comes to worst, an ICBM at your ISP. _-M _o P-_ 05:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

That may be the only solution. Okay, revert any edits I make using this account, and warn me each time ... maybe an admin will come along and block me :-). It's so sad, I can't even use my own VandalProof tool (not that I couldn't get by the security...). BTW, if you see anyone requesting permission to use it named AmiDaniel TestAccount (talk · contribs) or AmiDaniel TestAccount2 (talk · contribs) don't add them to the list, okay? 71.213.171.224 05:54, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

GAHH!!! The damn tool is too easy to hack. It uses local system time rather than Wiki time. Now my computer thinks it's May 21st and I'm back on Wikipedia. Okay, signing off for the very last time. AmiDaniel (Talk) 05:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I caught you using VandalProof! --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 08:22, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

You have been naughty (try to picture someone with a whip). No cookies for you. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 03:12, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Seems like you're really struggling to stick to your Wikibreak. My advice: pull the plug. That's the ultimate solution. All the other software blocks & script blocks have workarounds. That's what I do when I really have to study. Just pull the plug, hide the extension cord, put blinders on & study. It works wonderfully coz by the time you try to make the connections again you're too ashamed to go through with it!! Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 04:25, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Super Toad

Hi, sorry about my early vandalism, i just wanted to add to the site to help it but an admin has deleted my Super Toad article. I got his username and here it is!! Adashiel!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jlhc (talk • contribs) .

MoP RFA

I think you may have erased Blnguyen's vote in updating the tally. See [12] --Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 01:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

MoP has restored it. --Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 01:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Woops, thanks for pointing that out. (This is why I shouldn't edit on Wikibreak!) It looks like it may have been an edit conflict or something--but for some reason it didn't prompt me and saved my edit in place of his, maybe a bug? Either that or I was editing an old version and didn't notice it--all I did was change 57 to 58. I'm certainly glad to hear that MoP's up to 60 supports now though! I hope he succeeds. AmiDaniel (Talk) 01:46, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I think I've sorted out what happened. I was messing around with my IE settings last night to block me from using WP, and somehow I set my cookies very strangely. I had noticed that my watchlist hadn't changed in hours, whereas it's usually drastically different every five seconds--then I noticed that when I edited a page it was exactly the same as when I last edited it. I tried a hard refresh when looking at my watchlist, and viola! it changed. Apparently it was loading the pages out of memory rather than retrieving them from the actual site--I've now dumped all of my cookies and all of my tifs, and I'll see if I've managed to cure the problem. There's no way I can do a hard refresh every single time I load a page lol. Sorry about that. AmiDaniel (Talk) 03:56, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

If you want, you could have made a 'legal threat' against me...

--_{Avillia 03:03, 1 May 2006 (UTC)}

*scratches head yet again* Que? AmiDaniel (Talk) 04:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

The best way to go on a Wikibreak is to get your IP range blocked for WP:NLT. --Avillia 14:34, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I think you can safely ignore the above comment, there is not a chance in hell anyone is going to block for trying to enforce your software's copyright -- Tawker 15:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Sarcasm. --Avillia 16:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I once again submit this as a ideal answer to the WikiBreak problem. I claim that AmiDaniel threatened to sue me for 'reverse engineering' of VandalProof, he agrees right here, he's indef banned, and then I later say that he has agreed to drop all current and further legal action. A effective abuse of WP:NLT to enforce a WikiBreak, no? --_{Avillia 06:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)}

Shameless begging

I was just wondering if I could have my moderator priveledges back, pweeze. I promise to be good, and the main bug was with me accessing the user list; I think that if I only do it when there are users who want to be approved, nothing will happen. You don't have to give them back, of course, but I was just wondering. Thanks, _-M o P-_ 22:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

If the problem starts up again, please avoid using the update list function. If you accidentally blank the page please *immmediately* revert both User:AmiDaniel/Welcome to VandalProof and User talk:AmiDaniel/VandalProof back to their previous versions. AmiDaniel (Talk) 23:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

By the way, in case I didn't make it clear above, you're back on the mod list. AmiDaniel (Talk) 23:18, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikibreak. . . :-) does not sound like fun!!!Eagle (talk) (desk) 01:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

DON'T respond to this!!!Eagle (talk) (desk)

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Wiki Break---- come on!!!!

I see you are having a hard time... my suggestion is this... comprimise:-)

1) Leave new users, forums, abuse, and updating the welcome page to the "moderators".

I can respond to any question that is posted on those locations... so should any other moderator:-).

2) respond to difficult bugs that require knowledge of the source code. (like the new user list blanking) ect. respond to other bugs... but if they are really easy leave them to me and other programmers. (I am competent in this area, as I just finished a C++ "pure" arbitrary number class, allows calculations with numbers as large as availible memery:-)---.

Please relize Wikipedia won't fall down just because you are not there!

Now be good, or I won't let you see my source code. . . (not to say that I have even started cleaning it up!!!... exams as well. . . but I only have 2 as I am still in H.S. :-).

sorry about the threat, but we have to find a way to enforce your wikibreak, your grades will hurt you in the long run! YOur absence from wikipedia WON'T

Oops . . . I am bad as well, forgot to sign.

Geeze!!! this time I will actually put the ~~~~'s Eagle (talk) (desk) 01:42, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Lol. Alright, well this will hopefully be my last edit for the night (I've only been at it for about an hour today, so that's not too bad). It's been a nice reprieve from the four hour test I took this morning that I have the feeling I failed :-). Signing off. For a short while at least. AmiDaniel (Talk) 01:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

You said so... now go study, or I'll use bot rollback... ;) Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 06:10, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Alfons Oscar Saligny

I modified your edits on closing this AfD to what I think is a more reasonable organization, per my argument in the discussion and my edit comments (if we should mention one member of the Academy in its article, I don't think it should be one about whom we, so far, know too little to even have an article.) Hope that's OK with you. Tupsharru 07:00, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I actually just noticed that. I have absolutely no problem with it; since you seem to know more about the topic than I, or likely any of the "voters," I'm glad you knew what to do with it. AmiDaniel (Talk) 07:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I do not like Tom Cruise. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.231.241.72 (talk • contribs) .

Okay, thanks for letting me know... AmiDaniel (Talk) 01:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't like most root vegetables - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 04:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Your wikibreak

Hey Mister! LOG OFF NOW!! --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 04:46, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

I have used this site a few times and i wish to inquire how you make sure your information is all completely accurate, due to the fact that anybody can access this website and add their own information, even if it is invalid.