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Serious Problems with this Page

There are many talk items on here dealing with specific problems that this page has. There are many. I've added some tags showing that large parts of the page are uncited. Further, someone keeps changing the number of destinations to which Turkish Airlines flies, in spite of its citation. This, combined with all of the issues on this page, leads me to think this page is almost irrevocably screwed up. "Irrevocably f*****" would be my first choice of phrase. I think we need to do some section blanking, ala what happened to Flag Carrier when the number of uncited items in it became too large to allow. Further, the page is inconsistent among itself, with Air France-KLM being listed together in some lists and apart in others, with the same for BA and Iberia. We have no way of knowing if one list, say, includes United's subsidiaries, while another list does not. Or if one list includes United's subsidiaries but not Delta's because the data comes from multiple sources that are rarely cited in the first place. It's a sad conclusion, but this page needs some mass fixing or some mass removal.75.34.181.103 (talk) 03:16, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The data here is around five years old. According to the IATA (http://www.iata.org/ps/publications/Pages/wats-passenger-carried.aspx) Ryanair has come out on top, and Delta has surpassed American in terms of passengers carried internationally. Many revisions need to be done.

don't understand

why is British airways separate on some of the stats and then combined with Iberia for other stats. This seems misleading. Jacob805 06:09, 3 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob805 (talk • contribs)

I agree. 2.123.148.96 (talk) 14:25, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the article is sub-standard. Your concerns, and some of those in the previous section, are mirrored in the discussions at List of largest airlines in Europe. So if this page isn't to be deleted (and it is nonsense as it stands), a solution is to reduce the number of tables radically, and limit the information to airlines (e.g. British Airways), as the article is titled. If deemed necessary, have separate ones for airline groups (e.g. International Airlines Group). Carbonix (talk) 18:31, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This also seems to the case as well for air France and Klm.2.120.33.250 (talk) 10:08, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

fleetsize

Lufthansa have more than 700 aircraft and how come it is not a part of this list? 89.237.136.194 (talk) 13:53, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lufthansa and its subsidiaries combined have more than 700 aircraft. The airline itself has only 221 aircraft in its fleet. Snoozlepet (talk) 01:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But in this list Air France/KLM are listed together as a group, in size and figures. Why do we not siz-up Lufthansa Group with all the other subsidiaries?--Cruks (talk) 08:01, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

this is misleading Lufthansa group has been included. As the US airlines only have there mainline aircraft lists. Delta air lines mainline aircraft is 772 but you NOT have listed any if its group such skywest or delta connection this is an additional 614 aircraft, so from a group stand point, its fleet is well over 1300 Aircraft. compared to Lufthansa

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	::But in this list Air France/KLM are listed together as a group, in size and figures. Why do we not siz-up Lufthansa Group with all the other subsidiaries?--[[User:Cruks\|Cruks]] ([[User talk:Cruks\|talk]]) 08:01, 20 September 2012 (UTC)		::But in this list Air France/KLM are listed together as a group, in size and figures. Why do we not siz-up Lufthansa Group with all the other subsidiaries?--[[User:Cruks\|Cruks]] ([[User talk:Cruks\|talk]]) 08:01, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

	this is misleading Lufthansa group has been included. As the US airlines only have there mainline aircraft lists. Delta air lines mainline aircraft is 772 but you have listed any if its group such skywest or delta connection this is an additional 614 aircraft, so from a group stand point, its fleet is well over 1300 Aircraft. compared to Lufthansa		this is misleading Lufthansa group has been included. As the US airlines only have there mainline aircraft lists. Delta air lines mainline aircraft is 772 but you NOT have listed any if its group such skywest or delta connection this is an additional 614 aircraft, so from a group stand point, its fleet is well over 1300 Aircraft. compared to Lufthansa