Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/INeverCry

INeverCry

Voice your opinion on this candidate (talk page) (5/0/1); Scheduled to end 08:13, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination

INeverCry (talk · contribs) – Hello English Wikipedia community. I am one of INeverCry's colleagues on Commons. Today I am delighted to nominate him for adminship here. INeverCry is a good contributor here with over 34000 edits and holds autopatrolled, filemover, rollbacker, reviewer rights. He has created 88 articles, writed 1 GA, 2 DYK. INeverCry is also an great admin on Commons with over 65000 edits and 50000 admin tasks in the last 6 months, which indicates that most of deletions are performed by him. I think he will work efficiently with files stuffs and transfer them to Commons when he has the mop. He has accepted my nomination here but I will leave him a message about this RfA on en.wiki. Thank all of you for your participation Morning Sunshine (talk) 05:52, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Co-nomination by Hahc21

I first came across INeverCry when my interest in free image and the policy about images arose last year. Since then, I have only been pleased by the successful work he does at Commons, and his impressive record here on the English Wikipedia. As an specialist in files, I believe that entrusting Cry with the tools will be more than a net positive for the project. he is a solid user with very much content and admin experience and, with our shortage of administrators recently, I am completely sure that the mop suits very well for many of the tasks and things he does. Therefore, I am honoured to present this co-nomination. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 06:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I'm honored to accept this nomination. INeverCry 08:01, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?

A: I'm interested in moving files to Commons. My primary activity on Commons is tagging and deleting copyvio images and handling deletion requests, and so I have alot of experience with image copyright. I would also be available to help with CSD. On Commons I delete a considerable number of test pages, vandalism pages and talkpages, user requested deletions, and promotional pages, and believe I could help with this here. I've performed about 400 blocks on Commons of vandals, copyright violaters, socks, etc, and so I could help with that. I participate quite a bit on the various admin notice boards on Commons, and could help here in that area. In my role as an admin on Commons I deal with alot of users questioning deletions or reporting vandalism and other problems to me, and I always deal with these questions in a calm, respectful manner. I would do the same here on Wikipedia. If given adminship here I'm willing to help where needed, and would look at other areas of admin action as I gain experience. I would also note that when I'm not sure about an issue or how to go about something, I ask other more experienced users or admins for advice.

2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?

A:My best single article is George Crabbe, which I plan to bring to GAN once and for all after I'm able to update it with the new 2004 bio of him. I also helped my friend User:Antiquary clean up and promote The Story of Sigurd the Volsung and the Fall of the Niblungs to GA. Mary Lamb is pretty good, as is James Hogg. I've done some work on Elizabeth Gaskell and Wilkie Collins, and I plan to do big expansions of both in the future. I usually work on Russian lit articles with my Russian friend User:Evermore2 like Nikolai Leskov and Aleksey Konstantinovich Tolstoy, and shorter ones like Georgy Adamovich. I've done some small ones of my own like Lidia Veselitskaya, and Maria Arbatova. I'm proud of the List of Russian-language writers too.

Aside from that, I've done alot of Wikiproject assessments, copyedits, other gnomish stuff, and I've created 71 writer navboxes.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A:I had a bit of a disagreement a few months ago with User:Dennis Brown over my reverting and warning an IP and his admonishing me about it. I had strong feelings about it, but the whole thing was handled in a respectful way by both of us. I do feel I over-reacted a bit though. I took some time off to think about it and I've taken it as a learning experience. Dennis and I have interacted a few times since then on Commons with no issues, and I would think he looks at it as water under the bridge just as I do. Other than that I'm usually very calm and collected no matter what the situation, and I do my best to be friendly and respectful with other editors. Over my 3 years of activity here, I've had a few minor arguments but nothiing else I'd call a conflict.

Additional questions from Tito Dutta

4. I have already supported and I don't think I am going to change my vote unless something exceptional happens. I am aware of your work (both here and Commons) for a few months now, and actually I was thinking to ask you to consider to have yourself nominated for adminship!
My only question is, you are a Commons admin too, surely you can understand adminship in Wikipedia will bring extra workload! (yes, I know there are few editors who are admin in both Wikipedia and Commons) How'll you manage so much work? This is an unpaid work after all! I am quite sure, you have already thought of it and planned something! I am interested to learn your thoughts!

Additional questions from 27.251.75.18 (talk)

5. You have mostly automated edits here. In past year you have identified only around 15 vandal edits. Also why would you call http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pussy_Riot&diff=next&oldid=507333928 as vandalism? Why would you tag http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Becky_%28television_personality%29&diff=prev&oldid=501177814 as vandalism? Please tell.

A:

Hi IP,

Has the candidate been notified of a misuse of "vandalism" to describe good-faith but very bad edits, violating NPOV and BLP, respectively? Has the candidate made a similar mistake since being notified? Kiefer.Wolfowitz 10:02, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Hiya. The candidate doesn't have exemplary knowledge of vandalism. I expect that in the system operators who're going to have access to our _DiffEngine or APIblock modules. One mistake out of ten or fifteen reverts is not even enough to be given access to APIrollback.. forget running the CreateAndPromote script on the editor to make him an administrator.. or is it?27.251.75.18 (talk) 10:49, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

In case, meaning of "vandalism" is same/similar in Wikipedia and Commons (it should be... more or less...), then he does! I have got its first hand proof many times. Commenting that the editor lacks knowledge of vandalism is incorrect. --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:55, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

That second diff is to a revert of a bad edit by an editor who has already broken 3RR, and was harassing another editor leading to an indef block. While perhaps technically an incorrect use of Rollback I think you are being overly critical in describing this as not understanding vandalism QuiteUnusual ^TalkQu 11:13, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm critical..not being overly critical. The candidate doesn't have "exemplary knowledge" of vandalism here! He may have plain knowledge of vandalism. He doesn't have enough experience in reverting vandalism here to be even granted rollback. His great work at Commons, which for me is hearsay, is not grounds for me to be convinced he understand the English Wikipedia policies. You like him — please support him.27.251.75.18 (talk) 11:29, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

General comments

• Links for INeverCry: INeverCry (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)
• Edit summary usage for INeverCry can be found here.
• Edit stats are on the talk page. The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 08:18, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review their contributions before commenting.

Discussion

Support

1. Strong support: Excellent candidate! --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:17, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
2. Support experienced on Commons, and I've seen the candidate make insightful comments on the English Wikivoyage as well, so I'm sure they can understand the differences in local policies. --Rschen7754 08:36, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
3. Strong support: of course, I'm the nominator Morning Sunshine (talk) 08:43, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
4. support. Administrative experience on commons and writing experience here. He misused "vandal" to refer to a badly POV edit to a badly POV article on Pussy Riot, noted in an above question; unless he has repeatedly made this mistake after having been notified about "vandalism" on en:WP, one incident is not a serious issue. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 09:39, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
5. Support - Great candidate for admin. He has his admin experience from commons and have also been doing great work in english wikipedia. I don't see any reason to oppose this editor. Torreslfchero (talk) 11:19, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Neutral

1. Neutral (for now). INeverCry appears to be an excellent contributor and admin on Commons, and has impressive content work on Wikipedia. However, what a candidate does on another Foundation project is only part of the assessment and I need to know how he would perform if given the set of admin tools here. Hence, his contributions to the traditional admin related areas here, whether those that would require the use of tools or those that require the judgement entrusted to admins, fail to meet my criteria. This is not a statement in any way of mistrust, but I need sufficient metrics to be able to apply to make an evaluation at least on aggregate, and that especially demonstrate an understanding of CSD, PROD, AfD, and AIV. I am also concerned with the vandalism reverts mentioned by the IP user (who incidentally has only made a total of 32 edits to Wikipedia). Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:32, 31 January 2013 (UTC)