Talk:Outsourcing

Outsourcing page needs a complete rewrite. Please contribute...

There seems to be a lot of misinformation on this page. I have a PhD in business and the textbooks disagree with a lot of the wiki content on outsourcing.

Outsourcing is not offshoring. Outsourcing is domestic only. Offshoring is foreign only. The confusion between these terms was caused in the first place by putting false information about outsourcing on the internet.

• This is incorrect. Outsourcing relates to buying the services from a third party and may or may not involve off-shoring. Most global outsourcing deals done today have an element of off-shoring.--80.169.239.21 (talk) 09:32, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Please rewrite this page and agree on a proper definition. I already wasted my time editing the page to help improve the content and someone didn't like that I removed the misinformation about offshoring and added a proper definition. Whoever is attempting to control the editing of this page seems to be overly biased by "public opinion", which is completely subjective and false. Outsourcing has nothing to do with sending jobs overseas. 75.15.241.137 (talk) 18:32, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Offshore outsourcing has everything to do with sending jobs overseas.McGlockin (talk) 19:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree, outsourcing is defined as sending jobs to a third party, which can be DOMESTIC or FOREIGN.--Bcookiecook (talk) 18:26, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Causes of outsourcing section

Why is there no causes of outsourcing section? McGlockin (talk) 19:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

No-one has written one, feel free to be bold and do so. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 12:41, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

External links

I've removed most of the external links. The majority were brief news articles which should be integrated as sources if they appear at all. The EL section is not a holding are for sources. I've added the DMOZ link instead, though it is somewhat one-sided and I would not be averse to simply removing all external links but Wiktionary. I did leave in the Towers Perrin report since it looks somewhat scholarly, but it's a private company's report from 2008 and the company itself may be a proponent of outsourcing because it provides said services. Only one of the below seems possibly appropriate, the list of videos from the Cato Institute, if the page was directly linked to rather than linking to a massive dump of conferences. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 12:37, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

• Extreme Outsourcing - Forbes.com

Forbes magazine article on outsourcing, pretty close to an opinion piece - basically a couple short interviews.

• Free Trade Bulletin no. 10. Why We Have Nothing to Fear from Foreign Outsourcing

This is actually a redirect to a Cato Institute publication [1]. Could be a source, but it's not a good EL.

• Identifying, understanding and resolving legal and operational issues in outsourcing

This is a book review, not even the book itself. It might be appropriate as a source for some basic information that doesn't require a high quality reference.

• LPOs Add More Punch to India Action - The Economic Times

Brief article on legal outsourcing.

• New York Firm Takes On India... "Very Nice!" - Lexpert Magazine

Slightly longer article on legal outsourcing.

• Now, for some LPO action - The Hindu

Another brief article on legal outsourcing.

• U.S. corporates outsource legal work to India - The Hindu Business Line

A fourth and also quite brief article on legal outsourcing.

• Trade and the Future of American Workers

Long list of conferences offered by the Cato Institute again, the meaningful page would be this one from 2004. Contains a list of videos from a 2004 conference on the topic. This one I could see integrating, though you have to download the videos to use them. Cato is pretty partisan, but it'd be a counterpoint to the anti- sentiment that's ubiquitous on many pages.

• Outsource workers being trained

Short video on outsourcing from a company that provides outsourcing services that appears to be little more than advertising.

• Difference between Outsourcing and Worldsourcing

Two minute CNN interview with a guy who owns a company who outsources. Brief, somewhat tangential, essentially a single person's opinion.

The problem with many of these articles is that they tend to be biased opinion. Therefore, most articles can not be used as credible sources.

what happenning

I tried to add some info about outsourcing according to the industry like BPO / KPO/ s/w ; but it was removed ? Do you want full rewriting of page at once. I was thinking to rewright it step by step . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankitcktd (talk • contribs) 10:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Pages like like [2] which you added in this edit are not usable as references. Please read Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources and no original research. – Pnm (talk) 14:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Additions:

I intend to take the reasons behind outsourcing and rewrite them in more of a formal matter, such as paragraphs with the information describing the reasoning. Also I will explain the difference between outsourcing (while implementing the correct definition of outsourcing) and off shoring as it was mentioned earlier in this talk page because it seems to be two seperate ideas that continue to be mistaken as the same idea.--Bcookiecook (talk) 14:57, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I am doing a project and i decided to do outsourcing. I plan on giving a better explanation as to what outsourcing is and why corporations/firms choose to outsource. I could use some suggestions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pnarvaez25 (talk • contribs) 20:11, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Quality

In Reasons I want to remove

• Foreign countries tend to have workers who will complete the same amount of work as in the United States, but for less than half the salary that an American employee will make [9]. This motivates companies to outsource overseas to find foreign workers who are willing to work for these lower wages. The company can spend up to half the usual cost to train these workers to become experts in a different country [10].
• Comparing the costs to employing a worker in the United States to a worker in China, it is noticed that an employer in the U.S. has to pay higher taxes (social security, Medicare, safety protection (OSHA regulations) and also FICA (taxes))[11].

because of poor content. --Tom1492 (talk) 13:08, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Gloabalize

The article seems to me to represent outsourcing from the point of view of the US and EU. Why does the opening only reference awareness of the term in the US? Most of the effects of outsourcing are given exclusively from the POV of 1st world countries' governments, workers, businesses. The article could really use about a section on India, China, etc. Forbes72 (talk) 05:12, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Merger complete

  Y Merger complete. All information from Co-sourcing has been merged into this article. Northamerica1000^(talk) 17:22, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Merger complete

  Y Merger complete. A merge tag was added to rural outsourcing, but no discussion was initiated. However, the following comment was left at Talk:Rural outsourcing:

Definitely reads like ad copy Lori (talk) 12:57, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

I also noted that the text read like an advertisement and there were five "references", one was 404 not found and the rest were just going to the home page of outsourcing companies. So I redirected the article to here. WTF? (talk) 03:06, 12 July 2012 (UTC)