Talk:Banzai Pipeline

A note

This is certainly not the best image of the best there is in surf and sand. This article could use some real photos of the pipe.

The link on the bottom says Hookipal. Isn't it just Hookipa?

Trivia section

The final sentance of the trivia section is a joke, not based in fact, and should be removed. (139.168.157.209 20:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC))

Not so. I found a reference to it. KeithH 08:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Conditions?

I came here looking for things like average wave sizes (seemed like simple enough information) and instead got nothing at all. The little info there is about waves is fairly convoluted and seems to focus on just the left to right breaks but eludes to there being several other ways waves tend to come in...what are those? how do they break? If that information is there it is not clearly discernible from the standard left right break initially talked about.

There are also numerous typos that don't help. And who is this "wolf pack"??? All of sudden some group is mentioned that sounds like they keep people out. And that bit on the musician injured there is clunky at best. He isn't known for surfing there, but he surfed there and became partially famous for surfing there...uh..huh....? I would say just mention that musician so and so got hurt there maybe...heck I don't even know who the guy is.

But seriously can we get some basics of the conditions in here? How big do the waves tend to get? I mean that kind of is what this place is famous for and yet it isn't mentioned.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.22.202.201 (talk) 16:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Your question about wave size may seem perfectly reasonable, but with surf breaks there really is no such thing as "average wave sizes". The size of the breaking waves depends entirely on what swell might be coming in at any given time. Sometimes there are no swells coming in, so Pipeline can vary from huge to flat as a board. Invertzoo (talk) 20:12, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Pipe doesn't even "break" until it's a "Hawaiian" 6-feet (double-overhead). Most commonly it breaks 6-8 and 8-12, I guess, but that also means some huge clean-up sets are bound to come through. Max "paddle-in" breaking on the second reef I would say is ~18, maybe 20.

Spelling

Maybe someone should check the spelling in this article? Loutzi (talk) 23:56, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Use of surfing jargon

Was wondering if someone more knowledgeable about surfing can translate the jargon in this article and maybe put this into a more formal tone, especially when it talks about "A-frames" and waves "bombing out" or "closing out," etc. KeithH 08:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. While the use of surfing terminology and slang is acceptable on the main surfing article, it serves no purpose here. In fact makes it unintelligable to lay readers, which is not at all fair. ▫Bad▫harlick♠ 09:36, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

OK guys, I've surfed at Pipe, etc. in the past and I just edited a bunch of areas of the article to add explanations of the surfing terms. If it's still difficult for the non-surfer to understand or if the formatting needs fixing, etc. let me know here and I'll fix it up further when I get a chance. Cowicide (talk) 04:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. It's still completely ridiculous to try to read this. It's like reading a Ninja Turtle dialogue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.210.97.19 (talk) 20:39, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I tried to make it more accessable by explaining things in more detail. If it's so "completely ridiculous"... YOU fix it or just continue to whine, it's up to you. Cowicide (talk) 15:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I tried to clarify some more of the surf terminology. If other people can't understand, please list the words or phrases that you feel should be explained. Invertzoo (talk) 20:16, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Protection?

Vandals moving in, might be time to add a lock here soon? Cowicide (talk) 15:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Recent deaths

Removed the recent deaths section. Do we really need this? First, we need sources. Viriditas (talk) 13:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Pipe is not the HI surf spot of most serious injuries, etc.

That distinction goes to Sandy Beach, which by far sees the most emergency responses. Pipe may, however, be the site of most deaths, and/or injuries -on the N. Shore-.

Also, Pipe is not a tabletop reef but a series of lava "fingers" upon which a reef has formed. The caverns are at the junctions of the fingers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.250.147 (talk) 17:21, 20 April 2013 (UTC)