Talk:Comparison of IRC clients

Please read before adding clients A rigid consensus on inclusion criteria for this list has not been reached, but this is the gist of what has been wrangled so far: IRC clients added to this list must either have their own article, in which notability is established, or they must be verifiable using independent reliable sources which discuss the client. In addition to an optional primary source (the author), the client must be supported by either two "passable" independent reliable sources which discuss the client in a few paragraphs, or one "excellent" source which discusses it extensively. These inclusion criteria are the result of long, painful discussion; see the Talk archives, above. Only independent verifiability is required for this list, not general notability(required for article topics). Some sources have been deemed to be reliable about IRC and clients after extensive discussion; these have been cited in the list. Examples: these clients each have two "passable" sources: DMDirc and HydraIRC. Sourcing IRC clients for articles and this list has historically been difficult; for old clients, sources may be out of print and/or only available offline. For new clients, typically nothing is written about them in independent publications. It takes time to find sources, be patient. But please do not add a client to this list without independent reliable sources, because it will be subject to deletion.

Missed some

Can LeafChat and hIRC both be included please? I use them. Rcsprinter (deliver) 20:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

What about ClicksAndWhistles? :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.253.231 (talk) 17:11, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Also missing: Adium, Pidgin, all the IRC clients for iOS/Android — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.166.150.33 (talk) 07:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Months ago we discussed an inclusion criteria. You need that the client is mentioned in at least one reliable third party source. Near the top of this there is a search box for the talk archives. You can search the name of the clients and see if they were discussed before. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:45, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Purple background / not in development

The article says that the clients in the purple background aren't in development any longer. However, none of them are listed as purple / out of development. Can someone take a swing at fixing this? CTA MART (talk) 00:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I have developed a kind of allergy (hives) to editing huge, fragile tables. Feel free to help out! --Lexein (talk) 18:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Palaver

86.149.241.65 has added this client here and on Internet Relay Chat and Comparison of mobile Internet Relay Chat clients, as well as its own article Palaver (IRC client), without any independent sources; the only source cited is Palaver's own website. A quick google found no independent sources; it looks like the author of this client is trying to use Wikipedia to promote it. I think it should be removed from the list (and frankly its article wouldn't survive Prod let alone AfD), but I'll give the creator time to find some sources first. PT 17:30, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Thanks for bringing it up, I didn't notice it. Feel free to wait, or to delete at once. Notability cannot be established at this time. I wrote to the article creator that the article should be userfied voluntarily, rather than subjected to the obvious result of snowball delete !votes. --Lexein (talk) 18:34, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey! Check out User talk:XDAREx! Best new editor responsiveness I've ever seen - agreed to delete mainspace & work on userspace, skipping the whole AfD unpleasantness. Let's encourage this one to stick around and edit stuff. --Lexein (talk) 22:58, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Instantbird

This is an IM client (not just IRC; it uses libpurple apparently) and indeed is already in Comparison_of_instant_messaging_clients, so I think it should be removed from here. Consensus? PT 20:31, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Agreed - I usually explain this very thing in the edit summary when removing multiprotocol clients. --Lexein (talk) 23:21, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

HydraIRC does not support UTF-8

I'm using it right now, and it's not working. Yet the table says it does.72.160.92.210 (talk) 05:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Passive SEND is not a thing

But rather a collection of all reverse SEND protcols. I think it should not be included in the table. 84.80.121.130 (talk) 07:34, 4 May 2013 (UTC)