Talk:Rapping

Concern about "roots" and "innovators"

In 1977, on 9th Ave. around 35th St. in Manhattan, during a street celebration, a man performed in Spanish from a second or third floor balcony. He rapped, unmistakably, the staccato cadence flowing over some disco instrumentals. This was before Melle Mel. His presence, well amplified, was central to the celebration. Rapping was going on in the Latino or Hispanic population at this time. It seems highly relevant to include this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.186.43 (talk) 01:32, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

If you can include a reliable source to confirm it, then it should certainly be added.

Noting above by user:Walter Görlitz. 72.228.190.243 (talk) 02:32, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

What does that mean? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:09, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Just what it says, that the 3rd entry in this thread before this one is by you (since you didn't sign it). I've had a lot of activity on this talk page, there could have been a confusion. 72.228.190.243 (talk) 04:14, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

There were rappers such as Coke La Rock, DJ Hollywood, and Eddie Cheeba all doing a form of early rapping before 1978, in the period before Melle Mel, from 1973-1977, in a basic style... so I don't think that one guy rapping in 1977 is that significant. 94.4.193.37 (talk) 17:19, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Golden Age of Hip Hop

It seems controversial to say that lyrical innovation ended around 1994. Plus [28] and [30] these aren't exactly scholarly sources. Can someone who knows a lot about the Golden Age improve this? I think you can see innovators from NAS to Jay-Z to Eminem to Talib Kweli and the whole underground movement. Vaxine19 (talk) 15:33, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Rename: "History of Hip Hop" or "History of Rap"?

I was redirected to this page from History of Hip Hop. If this article is primarily about the history, it should specifically say "The History of Rap" or "The History of Hip Hop". There's another article on Hip Hop Music, plus one on Hip Hop [Culture] which also needs a name change to "Hip Hop Culture". These titles need to be more specific because it can't be assumed that readers will know (as someone stated on another talk page) that "Hip Hop" includes the culture; besides that there are the different hip hop/ rap articles, so more specific titles would make it much easier at an eye's glance for readers to know what the page is about. We must always assume that many readers will come to these articles will have some level of "ignorance" in regards to the topic, whether mild, moderate, a high level, or perhaps even totally ignorant (like an older student at a community college who has never listened to rap music, never talked about it with anyone, & now has to do a paper on it for college or learn something about it for a class discussion). Therefore the titles must be TOTALLY clear in regards to the subject matter.

BTW - I added topics for discussion on the talk page of "Hip Hop" (or rather "Hip Hop Culture" as it should be named), in regards to additions for the cultural effects OF mainstream rap & the cultural REPRESENTATION of underground hip hop, plus journal links, a list of female emcees (which needs more names with explanation of the female culture within the scope of both mainstream and underground hip hop), & brief mention of the queer hip hop scene & feminist hip hop scene. Furthermore, since females have ALWAYS been present through-out, both their cultural contributions (for the other article) and historical contributions (for this article) should be included. With less weight of course, but still through-out. Brief mention at the end of some names doesn't do justice to the historical contributions of female emcees. The article "Hip Hop Music" also includes history and actually does list a couple of early female rappers; additionally the book "The Vibe History of Hip Hop" (Edited by Alan Light) goes back much further, including attributes of hip hop that can be credited to women as early as the 1960s and female rappers from the 1970s-today. The naming game specifically is an attribute of hip hop that women & girls practiced that was adopted into the rhythmic style of hip hop. Sylvia Blossom (talk) 18:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

MCing redirects here

It doesn't.. Pubserv (talk) 18:48, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Amoebaean singing

Amoebaean singing is an ancient Greek freestyle form of Rapping.