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caisse

You pronounce it [kɛs] or [kɛːs] ? 198.105.126.193 (talk) 17:45, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I pronounce it the same way as the English word "case." Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:09, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You hear [kʰeɪ̯s] or [kʰaɪ̯s] ? 198.105.106.68 (talk) 18:36, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I hear it as the former. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:28, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

hiver

France :
Quebec, Gaspésie :
Quebec, Montreal :
Quebec, Montreal :

Are you capable to mark these four pronunciations in IPA ? 198.105.106.68 (talk) 21:51, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. This is because some distinct IPA letters are indistinguishable to me by sound. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:03, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Does these four pronunciations are all different ? 198.105.106.68 (talk) 11:04, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are all different, though the Metropolitan French and Gaspésie are the most similar to each other. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:40, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You think the Montreal pronunciation rhymes with river ? I don't think so. There is a /ʁ/ in final and the second vowel is not /ə/. Maybe [ivaɛ̯ʁ]. 198.105.106.68 (talk) 19:12, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clarifying. I would have thought that the Montreal pronunciation rhymes with river but you said otherwise, which made more sense. Thank you again. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:01, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

caisse

Do you know [keɪs] is not a standard pronunciation ? 198.105.98.184 (talk) 11:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. I did not know that. Thank you though. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 13:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The standard pronunciation is [kɛːs]. 198.105.98.184 (talk) 15:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is there another French word that you pronounce with an informal pronunciation ? 198.105.111.27 (talk) 16:13, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have not spoken French for a very long time. Therefore, I don't know. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:18, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

key

Do you think the F major is the best key ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When it comes to Cantopop, which is the majority of the videos you showed me, perhaps so. When it comes to classical music, I have no preference for any key. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The F major reminds the color blue, right ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 11:03, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

According to some theories, it does. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The G-flat major reminds the color orange ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 15:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is arguable. G-flat major (also known as F# Major) is also associated with the colour green: List of Green Lanterns#Rot Lop Fan. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:26, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNNCRzT_9vE

This song is associated in with color ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 23:04, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One has blue text and the other has pink text. Otherwise, the song is not associated with any particular colour. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:11, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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bonne fête

You hear "bawn fett" or "bawn fight" ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 19:28, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I hear it as the latter. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:31, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

key

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH6I3m5_bDg

This key makes someone think the colour orange, yellow or purple ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 17:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The piece is in F-sharp major, therefore it is green or cyan. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But the F-sharp major makes me think the colour orange. 198.105.121.97 (talk) 02:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The E-flat minor makes someone think the colour brown ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 12:08, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is debatable, but minor keys sound dark, while major keys sound bright. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUFGuOBe7Xk

This song is in D-flat minor, but it's in F-sharp minor in 1:54, right ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 19:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to tell. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 23:58, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzMu3FmCBQI

This song is exactly in G-flat major or between F major and G-flat major ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 11:55, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is closer to G-flat major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:52, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

G-flat major and G major is similar ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 17:58, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but they differ by one semitone. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 19:37, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think the E-flat minor is sadder than the E minor ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 21:18, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are the same to me. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The F major and G-flat major are very different ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 21:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not that different but different nonetheless. They only differ by a semitone. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The G-flat major is stronger than the F major ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 11:12, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are the same. Any key is stronger with forte dynamics. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 13:57, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

These four songs are in the same key ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 14:50, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First: G-flat major

Second: F major

Third: G-flat major

Fourth: G-flat major

Therefore, no. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:03, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The second is between F major and G-flat major, isn't it ? 198.105.110.145 (talk) 11:32, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It might be so. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

These two songs' tempo are different ? 198.105.110.145 (talk) 01:27, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The latter is slightly faster than the former and believe it or not, the increased speed of the latter caused its key to shift almost one semitone higher (common with pop music). Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:47, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, the latter is slower than the former. 198.105.110.145 (talk) 11:23, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for correcting me. I was tired. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:04, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

tête

http://www.forvo.com/word/tête/#fr

The second pronunciation is "tett" or "tight" ? 198.105.110.145 (talk) 18:37, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is pronounced "tate." Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:30, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

YMCA

Which video is a real G-flat major ? 198.105.117.182 (talk) 00:31, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The former. The latter is actually F major. Not just that, but the former is the official music video for YMCA, made by the Village People themselves. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:00, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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F major and G-flat major

F major: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mJnvgk2lmc
between F major and G-flat major: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNNCRzT_9vE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4nuGZS1c0s
G-flat major: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtUlDT389GA

The third video is in which key ? 198.105.121.200 (talk) 23:08, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The third video is in G-flat major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:13, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But the third video's key is lower than the fourth video, right ? 198.105.108.203 (talk) 11:16, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very slightly. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 14:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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key

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDKo8RYh0sY

This song is in F major or G-flat major ? 198.105.122.45 (talk) 11:12, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is in F major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:56, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The key between F major and G-flat major is not in Wikipedia ? 198.105.122.45 (talk) 01:46, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is not in Wikipedia, as it is absent in Western music (and is otherwise too obscure aside from East and Southeast Asian pop music). Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:09, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqXIqx6ogiA

Does this is a Western music ? 198.105.106.85 (talk) 11:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is Western. It is in F major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:16, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, this song is between F major and G-flat major. Why you told me this key is absent in Western music ? Because this song hasn't a high quality ? 198.105.106.85 (talk) 21:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I get it. It was from a vinyl record recording, which over time has led to the key being distorted. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:58, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

official: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmIooB1yOXE
concert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jAKMAruDUA

This song's original key is between F major and G-flat major, but in the second video, it's in F major. It's possible to make the key between F major and G-flat major with instruments ? 198.105.118.165 (talk) 01:19, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. One can tune multiple sets of instruments (depending on the instrument) to play in keys not on the Western scale. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:02, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why it's in F major in the second video ? 198.105.118.165 (talk) 12:10, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is not effective to tune every single instrument there. Often, it is just easier to play on a recognized key. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:08, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

tempête

Do you believe this pronunciation is between [tãpeɪt] and [tãpaɪt] ? 198.105.117.46 (talk) 01:12, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like the former. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:28, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For your outstanding edits to so many Toronto articles. Richard Apple (talk) 02:39, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I have added it to my barnstar collection. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:30, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

key

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N72dsXD2GdM

This song is in F-flat major ? 198.105.101.210 (talk) 01:27, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. It is in F major (though off-key). Remember that F-flat is exactly the same as E. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Off-key means between F-flat major and F major ? 198.105.113.6 (talk) 11:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, yes, though it is closer to F major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 12:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNNCRzT_9vE

This is a F major with a comma ? 198.105.113.6 (talk) 12:52, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps so. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 13:57, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song's key is closer to F major or closer to G-flat major ? 198.105.101.127 (talk) 20:40, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is very much in the middle. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:13, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRJJ8HiC1ks

This key is strange. You think it's in E-flat minor or D major ? 198.105.101.127 (talk) 01:38, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is halfway between the two keys. It is quite hard to tell though, as the vocals overpower the instrumentals and the instrumentals are very low. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svuEn_HfgHw

This song is in A major or B-flat major ? Be careful ! The intro is difficult to guess. 198.105.110.248 (talk) 00:33, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is in the latter. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:05, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVPPw-c7IYI

This song is in G major or A-flat major ? 198.105.120.197 (talk) 11:00, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is the former. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:58, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV7msA72TSU

This song is in E major ? 198.105.117.194 (talk) 14:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

chè

You hear [tʃɛ] or [tʃæ] ? 198.105.101.127 (talk) 15:02, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I hear it as neither. I hear it as [tʃe]. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ver

Do you hear a short [a] before the [ɛ] sound (that is [vᵃɛʁ]) ? 198.105.103.32 (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:47, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And this one. Do you hear a short [a] before the [ɛ] sound (that is [ivᵃɛʁ]) ? 198.105.103.32 (talk) 17:28, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Extremely slight. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:19, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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key

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ysU1xqCcD0

Does the key start to up in 3:32 ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 21:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The key becomes G-flat major at 3:32. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:49, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It becomes G-flat major or G major at 3:32 ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 13:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It becomes the former at that point. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So, the intro is in F major ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 17:30, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is halfway between F major and G-flat major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 20:13, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In 3:32, it becomes between G-flat major and G major, right ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 20:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It may be so. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's impossible to set the key between F major and G-flat major. This key is modified with a machine. 198.105.107.122 (talk) 10:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is not impossible, but it is very impractical to do so without a machine. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Does this key is written in the page F♯ (musical note) ? 198.105.105.98 (talk) 21:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 I think it's impossible to set the key between F major and G-flat major. This key is modified with a machine. [[Special:Contributions/198.105.107.122|198.105.107.122]] ([[User talk:198.105.107.122|talk]]) 10:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 :It is not impossible, but it is very impractical to do so without a machine. <font face="Old English Text MT"> [[User:Johnny Au|<span style="color:#ffd700;background:#000080">Johnny Au</span>]]</font> <sub>([[User talk:Johnny Au|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Johnny Au|contributions]])</sub> 16:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
+::Does this key is written in the page [[F♯ (musical note)]] ? [[Special:Contributions/198.105.105.98|198.105.105.98]] ([[User talk:198.105.105.98|talk]]) 21:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)