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:<span class="template-ping">@[[:User:Frenchman101|Frenchman101]]:</span> The sources you gave were not reliable. The best we have is a range of 365 days based on a date reported in a news article. Established practice with other biographies is to report the range like that if it's the most accurate information we have. If you disagree, you need to discuss it on the article's talk page. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 18:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:<span class="template-ping">@[[:User:Frenchman101|Frenchman101]]:</span> The sources you gave were not reliable. The best we have is a range of 365 days based on a date reported in a news article. Established practice with other biographies is to report the range like that if it's the most accurate information we have. If you disagree, you need to discuss it on the article's talk page. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 18:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

==Total Drama==

I just wanted to discuss your revision on my edit on [[Total Drama]]. In my opinion, you can, from the source say the Chris McLean will still be the main host of Total Drama. On the source, it says "The Ridonculous Race does have '''its own host''' all I can say for now is that his name will be Don and I hope you like him." That tells me from "its own host" that Chris McLean will still host [[Total Drama]] and Don will only be part of the Ridonculous Race. I do not want to edit war, nor do I want to have a dispute. I just want to friendly discuss this to come to a conclusion. I hope that you will be able to explain to me how the source doesn't give the removed information away. It would be greatly appreciated if you pinged me in your response. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Mmddyy28|'''<span style="color:#FF0000">Mmdd</span><span style="color:#008000">yy28</span>''']][[User talk:Mmddyy28| ('''<span style="color:#0000FF">Contact</span> <span style="color:#800000">Me</span> <span style="color:#00FF00">Here</span>''']]) 20:23, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

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Please restore pokepasta

Please restore my fan made subject called pokepasta. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iloveharrystyles01 (talkcontribs) 21:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Iloveharrystyles01: You'll need to state how it's notable web content. As a rule, anything "fan made" is not going to be notable. —C.Fred (talk) 21:11, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CFred I actually am a member on creepypata.wiki.com and I did the pokepastas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iloveharrystyles01 (talkcontribs) 21:16, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Iloveharrystyles01: Again, you'll need to show that secondary sources have covered Pokepasta enough to demonstrate notability. Since you have a conflict of interest with the subject, you probably shouldn't create the page. —C.Fred (talk) 21:21, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@[:User:C.Fred] Do you know that I have autism? I got the pokepasta from here: http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9Mon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iloveharrystyles01 (talkcontribs) 21:25, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)@Iloveharrystyles01:Whatever you have is irrelevant. Is there a newspaper or magazine article, academic journal article, or scholarly book demonstrating that anyone besides you cares that it exists? Ian.thomson (talk) 21:51, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't preferably think so

I believe the link I added on was appropriate for the encyclopedia page ( Fantage ) and I don't think that should have been removed. It really was irrelevant to leave a message. And anywho, what's the point of being on a encyclopedia page for viewing of children. Please DONT respond, and this was also for the laughs of others. Gosh.


Thank You Mr. C.Fred, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fizzy284 (talkcontribs) 04:11, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

B.N.E. (Artist) t-shirts

Dear C. Fred,

I added a very factual paragraph to the article on B.N.E. (artist) about the t-shirts he recently released. I did not make any negative claims, nor did I insert any opinions. You state that claims need to be backed up with reliable sources - fair point, but how exactly does one add a source for "he released t-shirts with Shepard Fairey, Invader and FAILE". He did, honestly, there is nothing secret about that.

In addition, what do you consider a 'reliable' source?

Is this a reliable source? http://www.freshnessmag.com/2014/03/13/bne-water-x-shepard-fairey-x-invader-x-faile-artists-4-water-collection/

Or what about this? http://hypebeast.com/2014/3/banksy-teams-up-with-bne-for-world-water-day

Again, everything I stated was factual and unbiased, however...

I am assuming the answer is no, those are not reliable sources, which I can understand, but that doesn't mean something didn't happen or isn't true, right? So please help me in updating the BNE article regarding the t-shirts that were sold, cause that information is certainly Wikipedia-worthy.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.20.172.185 (talk) 14:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There has been noticeboard discussion about this at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive202#Artist deleting negative info from their entry. I think there was discussion elsewhere, but I'm not finding it. In a nutshell, concerns have been raised by other editors that the material added to B.N.E. (artist) regarding the t-shirt scam allegations came from a non-neutral and non-reliable source. To satisfy the BLP concerns, you'd need to find New York Times-grade journalistic publications covering the alleged scam; blog-grade websites will not suffice. —C.Fred (talk) 14:50, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback. However, I do not intend to claim the t-shirts were a 'scam', nor did I use that word. I simply want to add that he released several t-shirt collaborations with well-known street artists, including Shepard Fairey, Invader and FAILE. Additionally, he attempted to release a t-shirt together with Banksy, a claim he unfortunately had to withdraw later on. That's 100% the truth.

Shepard Fairey, for example, posted on his official website about it here: http://www.obeygiant.com/headlines/shepard-fairey-x-charitywater-t-shirt

Faile posted on their official Facebook about it here: https://www.facebook.com/FaileArt/posts/644069412326341

I believe Invader also posted about it on his official social media outlets.

Additionally, Archive.org's way-back machine shows the t-shirts up for sale (or at that point: sold out) and shows the statement BNE made, in which he withdrew working together with Banksy, although he had initially thought so. https://web.archive.org/web/20140516213027/http://bne.org/

Would to way-back machine suffice as a source for that information? (or put differently: BNE's own website)

Thank you again

178.20.172.185 (talk) 16:28, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No. You will need secondary sources, not sources connected to the situation (BNE or the collaborators). —C.Fred (talk) 17:53, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to this logic the website of a famous person stating his or her age is not a valid source for that person's age, but an article on The New York Times website which states his/her age is (even when the latter merely uses the former as its source). Seems like a very tricky rule. Thank you for helping me though, even when I'm a little bummed that it seems I won't be contributing to Wikipedia (at least this time around). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.20.172.185 (talk) 18:31, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

regarding Emi•Neu•Web

I'm still working on this article. And this article has relevance for students who may want to gather information about the environmental organization Emi•Neu•Web which there may be very little material about. This organization is very different from Greenpeace and other environmental organization as the idea of this organization is entirely new and adapted to our time (2014). We have not seen environmental organizations such as this before and therefore it may seem interesting to know the difference beetween thia and already known brand such as Greenpeace. Where do I argue for its relevance? I'm new at this. --Wickname (talk) 18:10, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Wickname: Then you should cite secondary sources that have written about Emi•Neu•Web. Per WP:GNG, one indicator that a subject is notable is that it has gotten significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Conversely, the absence of such sources is a presumption that the subject is not notable. —C.Fred (talk) 18:11, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okey. The secondary source are coming. Give me some time. --Wickname (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lutheran Historical Institute

I run the Lutheran Historical Institute, I am the executive director. I would like it on Wikipedia, because all of the other affiliated institutions are already on Wikipedia.

Thanks, Dr. G.W. Grams — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwgrams (talkcontribs) 18:49, 22 July 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

I've replied at your talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 18:59, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank you so much for the quick intervention in stopping vandalism and personal attacks by 64.134.127.27. I had reported the same user earlier for vandalism and sock puppetry at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Shulinjiang/Archive , he hasn't learned his lesson and keeps coming back to launch personal attacks. Pvpoodle (talk) 01:06, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

he is back with his racially motivated personal attacks. 64.134.162.154 and 64.134.171.42 and 75.68.76.26, could you please do something about this such as Wikipedia:RD2 ? thank you, Pvpoodle (talk) 03:59, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Christina Aguilera

Thank you for your input, fan. I cannot, however, let those lies remain on the biography. XOXO - Legendtina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaga690 (talkcontribs) 00:46, 24 July 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

Reply at your talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 00:51, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Someone attacking you in "Hot In Herre"

Please keep close eye on the article for Nelly's "Hot In Herre". A poorly-sourced editorial (some sources are deleted tweets and others are dated 2015 & 2016) about Sasha Grey's marketing stunt and her intent for the hashtags keeps being restored by an unknown individual. This editorial attacks you by name and refers to "The conspiracy and manipulation of truth surrounding Sasha's takeover are current and Wikipedia editors are also guilty of poor review; users such as C.Fred have altered verifiable information, and instead placed false information, ignoring the facts." -bleak_fire_ (talk) 01:45, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Malachi York

Fred what you have on your page is not fact, just opinion based from unreliable sources. My statements are just as valid as yours, if you call him a criminal but I say he is not that is it. http://www.nuwaubianfacts.com/jacob%20york.htm go to this website and just have a listen. This is one of many sites showing the Anti-Integrity of our Judicial system, the length of which they will go to silence a man who provides hope for others, whether right or wrong. All I ask is for you to see the website, then realize the allegations are not proven therefore alleged. Many innocent people are imprisoned and many are not. If you are Overseeing all of Wikipedia like an Officer then you might as well write whatever you want. If you see something you don't like then you change it back then you are defeating the purpose of Wikipedia. Check out the website please, I would like your feedback as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.57.136.14 (talk) 16:19, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please review the guidelines for reliable sources and why we have built the article on sources from major newspapers and other sources with a reputation for editorial review and fact-checking. —C.Fred (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

NASH GRIER

I removed Nash Grier's birthdate because we need to show on that Nash Grier Wikipedia page his REAL date not "16/17" PLEASE DO NOT UNDO MY REVISION. I gave my sources before and someone else undid it. He use to state it on his website.

So, in conclusion, no birthdate will be posted on his page.

Frenchman101

@Frenchman101: The sources you gave were not reliable. The best we have is a range of 365 days based on a date reported in a news article. Established practice with other biographies is to report the range like that if it's the most accurate information we have. If you disagree, you need to discuss it on the article's talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 18:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Total Drama

I just wanted to discuss your revision on my edit on Total Drama. In my opinion, you can, from the source say the Chris McLean will still be the main host of Total Drama. On the source, it says "The Ridonculous Race does have its own host all I can say for now is that his name will be Don and I hope you like him." That tells me from "its own host" that Chris McLean will still host Total Drama and Don will only be part of the Ridonculous Race. I do not want to edit war, nor do I want to have a dispute. I just want to friendly discuss this to come to a conclusion. I hope that you will be able to explain to me how the source doesn't give the removed information away. It would be greatly appreciated if you pinged me in your response. Thanks in advance. --Mmddyy28 (Contact Me Here) 20:23, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]