Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 September 6

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 6, 2014.

Wikipedia:Concision razor

• Wikipedia:Concision razor → User:Born2cycle/Concision razor (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Pointless cross-namespace redirect that defeats the purpose of the userspacing. This MfD concluded in favor of userspacing it, because it was a one-editor-WP:OWNed essay that conflicted with consensus, yet being cited by author as if it were (and confusing others into thinking it might be) a WP guideline or a supplement essay that represented consensus. In closing, however, User:Salvidrim! declined to go with the userspace-without-redirect option favored in the MfD, on the basis "that would orphan a very large number of links found in talkpage discussions and I think keeping a project>user redirect is less harmful than creating potential confusion in the histories of hundreds of discussions." But there are no such "very large number" and "hundreds of discussions". Not counting MfD itself, only 18 pages link to it at the title Wikipedia:Concision razor or WP:Concision razor, and all of these can be refactored to refer to the current location in a total of 5 minutes or less. See also the user-spacing-without-redirect of same editor's other two controversial essays, here and here.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  23:46, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• No reason to delete, defaulting to Keep - I agree that my initial assessment that it would "orphan a significant amount of incoming links from discussions" may have been exaggerated slightly, but as I said on my talk page when SMcCandlish brought it up, per WP:R#DELETE there does not seem to be a reason to delete it, and redirects from project-space to user essays are generally accepted as non-harmful, and I would add it is especially relevant to conserve the redirect in the case of former titles of moved essays. Even I have a handful! I also strongly disagree that the MfD for this essay presented consensus for userfy-without-redirect as SMcCandlish implies. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 00:00, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Illinois-by a 5 grader

• Illinois-by a 5 grader → Illinois (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Some primary school student appears to have put an essay on Wikipedia, it would be better if its deleted. - TheChampionMan1234 12:47, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete. This has no encyclopedic value with its title, and has no encyclopedic value in its edit history. Steel1943 (talk) 02:45, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per nom -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 05:33, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

תפוח

• תפוח → Apple (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

No significant ties with Hebrew. - TheChampionMan1234 12:34, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete WP:NOT a translation dictionary. A general topic with no particular affinity for Hebrew. If this is kept, it will need to retarget to Tree of the knowledge of good and evil as the only viable topic with Hebrew ties -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 05:36, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

4pp13

• 4pp13 → Apple (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Pure leet, unlikely search term. - TheChampionMan1234 12:32, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Beethoven 5. senfoni

• Beethoven 5. senfoni → Symphony No. 5 (Beethoven) (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Delete inappropriate redirect. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, let alone a foreign language dictionary: Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information: this is English Wikipedia, and this Turkish terminology for a well-known piece of music is not found anywhere in English usage or literature. Smerus (talk) 09:35, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Ts'ai Tai-wan te Chung-hua Min-kuo

• Ts'ai Tai-wan te Chung-hua Min-kuo → Taiwan (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

This romanization system is little used nowadays, and furthermore, the corresponding term in Chinese characters (在台灣的中華民國 )does not exist as a redirect. Neither does the form in the currently accepted romanization system (Zài Tái Wān De Zhōng Huá Mín Guó). Also, this does not appear to be a likely search term on the English Wikipedia - TheChampionMan1234 05:20, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep per nom. Nom states that it is correct. Nominator should create the Chinese character redirect, and the new romanization style redirect. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 07:21, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep per nom and 65.94.169.222. "Little used nowadays" does not mean never used, and indeed makes it more likely that people encountering this term in older literature will want to look it up. Thryduulf (talk) 09:43, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

  Comment, I couldn't find any uses of this romanisation system to express this term, see [1] - TheChampionMan1234 11:10, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

  An old romanisation system is significantly more likely to be represented in offline environments than it is online. Thryduulf (talk)

Táiwan

• Táiwan → Taiwan (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Note that the tone mark (pinyin) for the second syllable is missing, the correct form is Táiwān - TheChampionMan1234 05:12, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep {{R from typo}} -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 07:19, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment - Why keep? It is an unlikely typo, see Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_July_8#Shànghai - TheChampionMan1234 11:06, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Dropping an accent is a highly common type of typo. Just look at languages with accents on the internet, and see how people spell accented words on internet forums. There's quite a lot of typos of this sort. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 05:42, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

• keep. An English speaker missing a diacritic, particularly one they wont be familiar with from French or Spanish words and borrowings, is a likely typo or thinko. Thryduulf (talk) 12:26, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Single purpose account

• Single purpose account → Wikipedia:Single-purpose account (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Inappropriate redirect to project space. - TheChampionMan1234 05:07, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• And a somewhat plausible article topic even (or at least plausible redirect to something else in mainspace; [[Throw-away account]] redirects to [[Disposable email address]], for what it may be worth). Delete. — Keφr 07:46, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
• comment. If this is redirected somewhere, a {{selfref}} hatnote to the current target should be provided. Thryduulf (talk) 09:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete if kept, retarget to disposable email address -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 05:40, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Capitals of North Korea

• Capitals of North Korea → Pyongyang (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

This states that the counntry has more than one capital, when it does not. - TheChampionMan1234 09:06, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Keep. Some countries do have more than one capital, and this is also a reasonable typo. Furthermore redirects do not have to be correct and anyone deliberately using this term is quickly educated by the target article that Pyongyang is the only national capital of North Korea. Thryduulf (talk) 09:18, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - TheChampionMan1234 04:58, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

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- TheChampionMan1234 04:58, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Delete: Too implausible an error.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  23:50, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Symbols of Corea

• Symbols of Corea → Korea (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

This just uses a differenty spelling. Delete per discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 May 12#Symbols of Korea - TheChampionMan1234 04:46, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete per Symbols of Korea deletion -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 07:21, 6 September 2014 (UTC)