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I don't know if it is worth mentioning but I often, even with people as young as 12 hear people refer to Czechia and Slovakia as Czechoslovakia, maybe mention that it is still erroneously referred too as such? [[Special:Contributions/151.227.229.35|151.227.229.35]] ([[User talk:151.227.229.35|talk]]) 06:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC) |
I don't know if it is worth mentioning but I often, even with people as young as 12 hear people refer to Czechia and Slovakia as Czechoslovakia, maybe mention that it is still erroneously referred too as such? [[Special:Contributions/151.227.229.35|151.227.229.35]] ([[User talk:151.227.229.35|talk]]) 06:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC) |
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== Presidents between 1948 and 1989 == |
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I have seen this pages and I find out the list of presidents of us ex-republik is incomplete. |
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There are not in the list Klement Gotvald, Antonín Zápotocký, Antonín Novotný, Ludvík Svoboda and Gustáv Husák. I have discover, that here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_Czechoslovakia its the list OK. Can anybody correct it here. |
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They got a bit of Germany in 1918
It is on the map in the 'klapedia' ( Memel) revolt article. Looks like the new state got some of Silesia. So what was this province called, and why did they get it? It went back in 1938 to Germany along with the much larger Sudetenland ; it is not clear if it was returned in 1945 along with the Sudetenland. More info needed.
Map
This [1] is incorrect. A reliable source is needed to *include* the map not to exclude it. Note there is a note on the image's page "Correctness and neutrality of this map is disputed. See the talk page of this file." so I'm not the only one who's noticed problems. The actual comment is here [2]. "Similar to" is not good enough. The actual map is in the comment linked. This map took some... liberties, with the colors. Volunteer Marek 18:51, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- No map is likely to be perfect--is village X this or that?? The allegation is that it is a POV map designed to aid the German cause. That allegation was the motivation for action and has no been supported by any source. Rjensen (talk) 22:28, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- The burden of proof is on the editor who wishes to include the map - to provide a reliable source. Also, the allegation is supported, compare the maps provided at the link above. Volunteer Marek 22:38, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- No map is likely to be perfect--is village X this or that?? The allegation is that it is a POV map designed to aid the German cause. That allegation was the motivation for action and has no been supported by any source. Rjensen (talk) 22:28, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
mistakes
Czechoslovakia was NOT seen as a successor state of the Austrian monarchy, but was a part of the Allies. In late November until 27 December 1918, the Czechoslovak army also managed to conquer/occupy the Province of German Bohemia and the Province of the Sudetenland of German Austria (which accepted the role as successor of the Austrian monarchy). This is important because only the successor states had to pay reparations and because of the fact, that most Germans saw it as betrayal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.166.117.142 (talk) 22:01, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Undue weigh?
Yopie misreads the wp:Undue rule. It states, "Giving due weight and avoiding giving undue weight means that articles should not give minority views as much of, or as detailed, a description as more widely held views." That is, the views of a tiny or fringe minority should not be given disproportionate weight. In the Cold War context the views of the US government and the head of the CIA are indeed a major viewpoint and all the scholars of whatever politics consider the CIA to be one of the most important Cold War agencies. Here we are talking about the analysis made by Dulles, the long-term head of the agency at the height of his power (his brother was then the US Secretary of State). Does Yopie really consider the CIA as a "tiny or fringe minority" ???? He has used the UNDUE tag repeatedly (in History of Czechoslovakia and Czechoslovakia, and called the info "trivia." No other editor supports his deletions of sourced material. In this case the importance of Dulles position was validated and put into context by coverage in a recent scholarly book published by a university press. Yopie has failed to indicate the reasons he thinks the CIA position is a fringe position. The risk is that Yopie is engaging in an edit war expressing his private POV and tries to cover up embarrassing information he does not want Wikipedia readers to learn about. We certainly hope that is not the case but Yopie has merely reverted sourced text over and over again with no explanation for his strange actions. Rjensen (talk) 16:11, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Modern Day Use?
I don't know if it is worth mentioning but I often, even with people as young as 12 hear people refer to Czechia and Slovakia as Czechoslovakia, maybe mention that it is still erroneously referred too as such? 151.227.229.35 (talk) 06:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Presidents between 1948 and 1989
I have seen this pages and I find out the list of presidents of us ex-republik is incomplete. There are not in the list Klement Gotvald, Antonín Zápotocký, Antonín Novotný, Ludvík Svoboda and Gustáv Husák. I have discover, that here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_Czechoslovakia its the list OK. Can anybody correct it here.