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:: The Prayer Chain are not U2. They don't have as much written about them as U2 does. They don't have the volume of work that U2 does. The U2 article has long sections, |
:: The Prayer Chain are not U2. They don't have as much written about them as U2 does. They don't have the volume of work that U2 does. The U2 article has long sections, |
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:: I am not on a power trip, I'm on a "I have been editing on Wikipedia for a lot longer than you have and know about manuals of style, formatting and other general editing experience and I'm trying to share it with you" trip. [[:WP:AGF]]. Unless you're willing to change your "[[:WP:OWN|this is my article]]" attitude, you'll get blocked. I explained what the project is trying to achieve. If you want to write a blog on the band, there are plenty of places for that, but Wikipedia isn't the place. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 04:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC) |
:: I am not on a power trip, I'm on a "I have been editing on Wikipedia for a lot longer than you have and know about manuals of style, formatting and other general editing experience and I'm trying to share it with you" trip. [[:WP:AGF]]. Unless you're willing to change your "[[:WP:OWN|this is my article]]" attitude, you'll get blocked. I explained what the project is trying to achieve. If you want to write a blog on the band, there are plenty of places for that, but Wikipedia isn't the place. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 04:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC) |
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::: They'd be expanded if you weren't unnecessarily removing those expansions. |
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::: Apologies if 4 sub-sections for their History is "cluttered" to you. Explains why you have such a hard time with sourced information being added. |
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::: The Prayer Chain aren't U2. U2 have numerous articles about them on wikipedia, about all their albums and even individual songs. This is the one wikipedia article about The Prayer Chain, so why is it a problem adding information about their history and albums to this article? The band have an evident cult following, were pioneers in the Christian Music industry and are still revered. It's not disproportionate having a bit more information about them on wikipedia, even if you don't think much of them. |
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::: But your "I have been editing on Wikipedia for longer and I'm so wonderful at it" shows you aren't power-tripping then. You are ego-tripping. I don't have a "this is my article" attitude, which is why I'm not the one removing content. Blogs can be written about the band, but wikipedia is often the first go-to for people researching information. So what is wrong with having information here, and a user-friendly format for that? Walter Gorlitz doesn't like it, that's what's wrong. [[User:Religious Burp|Religious Burp]] ([[User talk:Religious Burp|talk]]) 09:40, 10 April 2015 (UTC) |
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Added some other stuff to the discog. 13:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
This Prayer Chain article needs a bio if anyone is willing to put some time into writing one for it. C&R 14:04, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Religious Burp's recent edits
I mean the ones like this:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Prayer_Chain&diff=prev&oldid=655775792 I have been accused of being a "control freak" and made changes "without merit". Apparently "Having sections helps easy use of article." I won't address the personal attack. Let's look at the from guidelines and manuals of style instead. WP:BODY, part of the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout, states, "Very short or very long sections and subsections in an article look cluttered and inhibit the flow of the prose." So while having sections does help navigation (not necessarily use) short ones is to be avoided. Two paragraphs, the second just a sentence, in "Early History" and the same in "Shawl era". "Post Break-up" had three paragraphs. Mercury era, while having several duplications of information and extended quotes, was longer.
Second, MOS:HEADCAPS: "Use sentence-style capitalization, not title-style capitalization, in section and table headings. Capitalize the first letter of the first word, but leave the rest lower case (except for proper names and other items that would ordinarily be capitalized in running text). Thus Section headings, not Section Headings; Previous club, not Previous Club." So here the sections should be Full-length albums, not Full-Length Albums, etc.
Now, WP:QUOTEFARM suggests not overusing quotes. This is overuse. Time to report for breaking WP:3RR. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:29, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- These sub-sections are obviously in the process of being expanded. Formatting the article with subsections and quotations from the band is no different than how the U2 article is formatted. Unless you are willing to change that article in the same way you are way trying to power-trip on this one, leave it be in the interest of information and easy-use. If you want to change capitalization, go for it. But if you do wide-scale changes & omissions, I'll revert it. Religious Burp (talk) 03:37, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- They're not obviously in the process of being expanded.
- The Prayer Chain are not U2. They don't have as much written about them as U2 does. They don't have the volume of work that U2 does. The U2 article has long sections,
- I am not on a power trip, I'm on a "I have been editing on Wikipedia for a lot longer than you have and know about manuals of style, formatting and other general editing experience and I'm trying to share it with you" trip. WP:AGF. Unless you're willing to change your "this is my article" attitude, you'll get blocked. I explained what the project is trying to achieve. If you want to write a blog on the band, there are plenty of places for that, but Wikipedia isn't the place. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- They'd be expanded if you weren't unnecessarily removing those expansions.
- Apologies if 4 sub-sections for their History is "cluttered" to you. Explains why you have such a hard time with sourced information being added.
- The Prayer Chain aren't U2. U2 have numerous articles about them on wikipedia, about all their albums and even individual songs. This is the one wikipedia article about The Prayer Chain, so why is it a problem adding information about their history and albums to this article? The band have an evident cult following, were pioneers in the Christian Music industry and are still revered. It's not disproportionate having a bit more information about them on wikipedia, even if you don't think much of them.
- But your "I have been editing on Wikipedia for longer and I'm so wonderful at it" shows you aren't power-tripping then. You are ego-tripping. I don't have a "this is my article" attitude, which is why I'm not the one removing content. Blogs can be written about the band, but wikipedia is often the first go-to for people researching information. So what is wrong with having information here, and a user-friendly format for that? Walter Gorlitz doesn't like it, that's what's wrong. Religious Burp (talk) 09:40, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
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