Talk:International Churches of Christ

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Associations: HOPE Worldwide,[3] It goes to https://www.hopeww.org/ Where does it say that Hope Worldwide is connected to the International Churches of Christ on that page? Qewr4231 (talk) 00:04, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Associations: HOPE Worldwide,[3] DPI Books [4] The DPI Books source goes to http://dpibooks.blogspot.com/ The source page says: "Now that DPI has ended operations, you can still find many books and other products that were published by DPI. Most products are available either through: Good Book Press or Illumination Publications" Qewr4231 (talk) 00:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Source Number 8: "Data and Analysis". ICOC Info. International Churches of Christ. April 2006. Retrieved 2007-07-09. It links me to this page: http://icocinfo.org/chartlist.html The page is in Japanese. How would Americans know what the page says?? Qewr4231 (talk) 00:13, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Source Number 12: Beliefs, Columbia Church of Christ website (accessed 24 December 2013) It links me to this page: http://colachurch.org/ How do the beliefs of the Columbia Church of Christ substantiate or prove the beliefs of the entire ICOC? Where on this page are the beliefs of the Columbia Church of Christ listed? Qewr4231 (talk) 00:18, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Source Number 13: "It is a family or network of 650 churches spread across some 155 nations, they consider themselves non-denominational.[6][13]" It links me to: http://web.archive.org/web/20080325065212/http://www.nyccoc.net/home/whoweare.htm

How does the link prove that the International Churches of Christ is " . . . a family or network of 650 churches spread across some 155 nations, they consider themselves non-denominational.[6][13]" ??? This source is very confusing. Qewr4231 (talk) 00:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

A lot of the sources use ICOC Hot News whatever that is. Is this a blog? Is this a newspaper? Is this a credible news organization? What is this? Qewr4231 (talk) 00:25, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Source number 35 leads me to http://www.disciplestoday.org/has-a-new-era-begun-for-the-icoc which in turn leads me to the full article at http://www.icochotnews.com/?q=node/1959 which is entitled "OPINION: Has a New Era Begun in the International churches of Christ?" written by Mike Taliaferro. Who is Mike Taliaferro and why is he a good source for "Once the fastest-growing Christian movement in the United States, membership growth slowed during the later half of the 1990s" ????

Qewr4231 (talk) 21:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Source 89 leads me to this page: http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article.aspx?articleid=straitstimes19970717-1.2.44.11&sessionid=72180122d5ed4f80adf22fc659b9de9f&keyword=central+christian+church+hearings&token=hearings%2cchurch%2cchristian%2ccentral

I quote what is found on that web page:

"The Straits Times, 17 July 1997, Page 35 Church not a cult, says expert witness Article also available on microfilm reel NL20190 [Lee Kong Chian Reference Library - On shelf]

Note: This article may only be viewed from the multimedia stations at NLB Libraries. For more information, please visit the FAQ page. To obtain an un-watermarked copy of this article, please visit our FAQ page for more information."

The source is not available to people on the internet which makes this a less than credible source. It's essentially the same as having no source because of the source's inaccessibility.

Source 89 also leads me to this: http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article.aspx?articleid=straitstimes19971111-1.2.37.14&sessionid=72180122d5ed4f80adf22fc659b9de9f&keyword=central+christian+church+hearings&token=hearings%2cchurch%2cchristian%2ccentral

"The Straits Times, 11 November 1997, Page 30 Newspapers' privilege no greater than private citizen Article also available on microfilm reel NL20213 [Lee Kong Chian Reference Library - On shelf]

Note: This article may only be viewed from the multimedia stations at NLB Libraries. For more information, please visit the FAQ page. To obtain an un-watermarked copy of this article, please visit our FAQ page for more information."

This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the ICOC.

Qewr4231 (talk) 21:41, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

In the Affiliated Organizations section all have references except: Baltic Nordic Missions Alliance, European Bible School, Florida Missions Council, Taiwan Mission Adventure

Why do these not have references?

Qewr4231 (talk) 21:47, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Discipleship Publications International

This line

* Discipleship Publications International – Published 175 books in 25 different languages.<ref>http://dpibooks.org/about-dpi</ref>

was removed. I'm putting it here in case there is a use for it such as in a list of past organizations. I'm also adding this

<ref name=dpibooks>{{cite web|last1=Jones|first1=Sheila|title=About DPI|url=http://dpibooks.org/about-dpi|website=DPIbooks.org|publisher=DPI Books|accessdate=3 April 2015|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20130117152111/http://dpibooks.org/about-dpi|archivedate=17 January 2013|dead-url=yes}}</ref>

so that it'll be properly cited to the archive. Jerodlycett (talk) 02:16, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Serious Question

Why is it that when I enter "Kip Mckean" into Google search I get hundreds of links with the word "cult" in the description??? Qewr4231 (talk)