Talk:Principality of Ongal

Wikipedia - What Is This Nonsense?

No, really, are you an ENCYCLOPEDIA, or a forum for dumb, nationalistic 11-year-olds to gibber their nonsense at?

This... THING here does, most certainly, indicates the latter.

I expect you to delete this bullshit immediately and to block the retarded kiddo, who created it on the first place. 77.126.147.200

Good luck with getting your expectations met! I think IP editing should be banned, but in this case that's not happening and there also do appear to have been mentions of this "micronation" in the media, which appears to confer notability. At least, that's the current standard for micronations. Not that there's not scope to cut this article right back. Bromley86 (talk) 06:37, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Cutting it back

Just a warning that, time permitting, I'll be reviewing this article soon with a view to cutting it back to what reliable sources say, along with some basic bio stuff. I.e. Don't expect things like the Disputes with other Micronations section (referenced to a forum post) to survive. Bromley86 (talk) 23:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 Done Bromley86 (talk) 23:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

facepalm

This is yet another Liberland, but with even fewer (trivial) news coverage? That one at least got a bit of traction, but in Croatia no one's ever heard about it - I tried to google "Ongal" on the websites of Jutarnji list and Večernji list and came up with absolutely nothing. Can anyone think of a reason to keep any of this in any part of Wikipedia? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 14:36, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

I can't see much point. Perhaps a redirect to a single page that covers all of them? Bromley86 (talk) 22:34, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

I can't imagine devoting even a single sentence to this particular one in e.g. Croatia-Serbia border dispute because it's completely orthogonal to that dispute - nobody involved in the actual real-world dispute cares about this. It would be worse than a trivia section. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 07:31, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

True, it definitely shouldn't go there. I've cut the article right back, but I'm still not convinced that it needs it's own entry. Perhaps asection in the much-more visible Liberland article that effectively says pocket 1 has been claimed by Enclava, pockets 2 & 3 (and that small spot opposite Apatin) by Ongal? But, then again, that Liberland article is getting a bit big as it is, so perhaps not. Bromley86 (talk) 23:36, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Just seen this, which looks to me to be a pretty good way of dealing with Enclava and Ongal. Bromley86 (talk) 23:44, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Stop vandalisation

Please Stop to vandalise the article and delete all official info of BTA (Bulgarian telegraph agency), BNT (Bulgarian national state television) and BTV (Bulgarian private national television) central news emissions, News and media portal Eurochicago, Gazette "Defence" etc. for Ecological Danubian Principality of Ongal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.157.137.5 (talk) 13:31, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

• Sloiydarity with the previous editor - Please to Stop vandalisation of the article and do not respect the official sources like BTA (Bulgarian telegraph agency), BNT (Bulgarian national state television) and BTV (Bulgarian private national television) central news emissions, News and media portal Eurochicago etc. for Ecological Danubian Principality of Ongal. 149.62.200.197 (talk) 06:01, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

The fact that you're suggesting it's vandalism, rather than considered editing, does your position no favours. The article we had before I reviewed it was a mess. Feel free to suggest edits if you feel there's some material that should be back in, but the fact there was coverage on Bulgarian National Television is not, in itself, important. It may, of course, be used to support points; however, in this case, I think you'll find that it's the same as a press release in terms of reliability (i.e. not that reliable). Bromley86 (talk) 06:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

• Mr. Bromley86 Please to Stop vandalisation and your editors war agains the article and respect the standards and the official sources of central news of the BNT (Bulgarian national state television) and BTV (Bulgarian private national television), BTA (Bulgarian telegraph agency), News and media portal Eurochicago, published offitial documents for establishing of Ecological Danubian Principality Ongal on 25 November 2014 the images etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.62.200.197 (talk) 06:45, 21 August 2015 (UTC)