Talk:Fireplace

Possible article expansion

• Fireplace design
  • Count Rumford - [1]
• "Fire Art" fireplaces, the new category arguably started by Heat&Glo
  • The Cyclone fireplace
  • Alcohol fireplaces like the new ones from Ecosmart
• Fireplace efficiency (woodstoves more efficient)

I am having some serious issues with the only two links within Wikipedia are to carbon monoxide and Kyoto protocol. It seems that this article could be a little politically based, this is not acceptable. You also need to provide sources for air pollution and some testimony that current technology of gas and electric does not come close to duplication of a wood fireplace.

I have an existing fireplace and am making my garage a family room I would like to open the fireplace on the garage side so the I have access to the fireplace in both rooms

>> Discussion of switch mechanism to activate pilot ignition of natural gas fireplace may be useful. I believe it involves a thermocouple at near pilot flame, producing electrical current that completes a circuit when switch is closed thus opening flow for starting fireplace.

Commercial links gone

Removed commercial links. 68.96.173.125 1 July 2005 19:47 (UTC)

Hey; what's a definition of a commercial link?

New material on chimneys

Excellent, informative contribution, Chimney Jack. But doesn't most of it belong under chimney?--Dell Adams 06:03, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Back boiler

In the UK many fireplaces had a "back boiler" for heating the water from the fire, however it wasn't the main water heater in the house. Please include that in the main article.

Some chimneys have a gas back boiler that heats the water and powers the central heating, since the chimney itself is used as a flue.

I am new to this - I edited the article to include what I thought was interesting content on a book whick examies the oral storytelling tradition - I was thinking that it was relevant becuse of the history of sitting around a fire and storytelling.

Anyway - I don't think it was proper protocal. I am to only suggest additions or can I truly edit pages? I would really like to contribute. :)

Stacey from [www.fireplacesandwoodstoves.com]

HOW CAN I RESTART THE PILOT LIGHT ?

Fiction?

Just edit Stacey, but try to provide reliable sources. Also Fireplaces in fiction? This has to be the most useless info I have ever seen. How about some fireplace history, design, etc. You know, some useful information. A mcmurray 22:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

No one replied last time but I have nuked that section. Unencyclopedic drivel, useless and nothing more than a collection of pointless trivia. Fireplaces in fiction? Come on. IvoShandor 16:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

How do modern electric fireplaces work?

Can how modern electric fireplaces work be added to the article? I have seen some that don't use the "flame-shaped paper streamers wave vertically in the air" mentioned in the article. These did produce a lot of heat, required no chimney, and simply plugged in. I also see them as prizes on The Price is Right. Will (Talk - contribs) 20:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

There is an article on Electric fireplace, that I updated to wikify and to remove commercial plugs. The OED simply defines them as a type of electric heater. That seems about correct: they are a "special effect" used in conjunction with an electric heater. The companys making them might like to dignify as having a particular purpose, but in practical effect, they aren't much different than a computer running a simulation of flames. Both look pretty and produce heat. Piano non troppo (talk) 05:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Ventless Firplaces

Do these not pose a significant risk of carbon-dioxide/carbon-monoxide gas poisoning in the tightly sealed modern house ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.5.220 (talk) 18:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Dates for Franklin and Rumford

The article says Franklin introduced some improvements in the 1600s, but he lived in the 1700s. Not suer about Rumford, but the article says he was later than Franklin. 203.189.134.3 (talk) 09:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Article rewrite needed

This article needs a complete rewrite. A glance at any book dedicated to fireplaces will suggest deficiencies:

1) Historical perspective: Fireplaces of various forms have been used for thousands of years. The previous historical material (uncited, essay, OR) -- I removed. It read like an introduction to a home improvement magazine article.

2) Historical and worldwide perspective: The cavemen, the Chinese, the Romans, the Vikings, the Midievals, the Victorians, and the Western moderns have hugely different types of fireplaces, sometimes with quite different uses. There were fireplaces aboard ship.

3) The relationship needs to be drawn between fireplaces, campfires, bonfires, and furnaces.

4) The existing article has rightly pointed to the social, even animal-hypnotic role of fireplaces. The article needs to quote references in social works, not indulge in original research about how "pets like fireplaces, too" and "fireplaces are family bonding places before bedtime". That all may be true, but references are necessary. (I.e., it wasn't necessarily "family bonding" as much as the only place out of bed where the family could be warm. Or, for that matter to get reading light. Or food.)

5) Construction. The sections on construction are still a haphazard list of features and accessories with little explanation of which were used together, and for what purpose. And again, they are heavily oriented toward just-passed Western history. The severe problems with fireplaces -- the fires started, the pollution caused outside and inside, the maintenance -- all need to be put in an historical context. Piano non troppo (talk) 06:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

This is an advertisement, not an article

This article is completely biased in favor of gas fireplaces. It seems to me it's been manipulated by people within the gas fireplace industry. It should be re-written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.18.214.254 (talk) 16:44, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Low efficiency 80% and High efficiency 80%? Can someone clean this up? From the article: Most older fireplaces have a relatively low efficiency rating. Standard, modern, wood-burning masonry fireplaces though have an efficiency rating of at least 80% (legal minimum requirement for example in Salzburg/Austria).[7] To improve efficiency, fireplaces can also be modified by inserting special heavy fireboxes designed to burn much cleaner and can reach efficiencies as high as 80% in heating the air.

Terminology

Suggested changes to much of the terminology, based on some general research I have been doing.

Found this site: http://www.melluishanddavis.com/, particularly look at the terminology section. A small English firm doing Chimney-piece restoration, run by the author of this book- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antique-Garden-Ornaments-John-Davies/dp/1851490981 Their website seems to me to be very intent on educating viewers about antique chimney-pieces.

So if not a full scale change, certainly an a new section regarding English Georgian chimney-pieces is necessary. Pat232323 (talk) 17:13, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

• I don't think this one website can be the basis for making the wholesale decision that fireplaces will henceforth be called chimney-pieces. The website itself indicates that the term was used in the past, and not so much today. I'm open to adding a section about historical terminology. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC)