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STUPID JIMBO WALES !!! LONG LIVE SEIGENTHALER AND BRITANNICA !!! DOWN WITH WIKIPEDIA !!
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'''If you need to contact Jimbo about something, please do so at [[User_talk:Jimbo Wales]], not here.''' As Jimbo himself explains...

People who are trying to leave messages for me will likely be more satisfied if they leave messages on my [[User_talk:Jimbo Wales|user talk page]] than if they leave them here. This is the talk page for the article about me, not a place to talk to me. I rarely read this. --[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 06:05, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
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== An important question... ==

Why does the article not even bother to mention Jimbo's birth date?--[[User:Conrad Devonshire|<font color="Green">'''Conrad Devonshire'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Conrad Devonshire|'''<font color="Purple">Talk</font>''']]</sup> 06:35, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
:Because there is no good source for it, see discussion above. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 08:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:Look up three entries. --[[User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson|Jeffrey O. Gustafson]] - ''[[User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson/Shazaam|Shazaam!]]'' - [[User_Talk:Jeffrey O. Gustafson|&lt;*&gt;]] 10:45, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:: I know the birthdate has been June 1966, 6 August 1966, and 8 August 1966 - however, I believe there are now sufficient references for 7 August 1966. While some of these may have gotten their information from an old version of this article, I believe the conferences mostly got their information independently and are reliable sources. --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 04:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

::: Can't we just ask Jimmy? [[User:MisterCheese|MisterCheese]] 06:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== doesn't look good to me ==

The page seems all screwed up to me - it starts with a description of "infobox celebrity" with a couple of examples following and the actual text is only a screen or two below. Must be some trivial markup mistake but I wasn't going to try to fix it myself - perhaps there's somebody more competent --[[User:Dzordzm|Dzordzm]] 06:38, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:OK now it's good. Somebody's been playing with it :) --[[User:Dzordzm|Dzordzm]] 06:58, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

== Archive by copy and paste ==
Is there some policy on archiving - as it makes more sense to me to move the talk page rather than copy and paste the text since the history then goes with the archive page. --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 03:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

:According to the official policy page, you can do either, as long as you follow the same procedure each time on the same page. --[[User:Robdurbar|Robdurbar]] 08:51, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:: Thx --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 14:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Jimmy vs. James ==

I think the page should start with Mr. Wales' verifiable name &mdash; that which is on his birth certificate or his current legal name. I expect that such evidence would demonstrate that his name is James, not "Jimmy". If the name "Jimmy" must be presented &mdash; no matter how much he prefers it or even how much it happens to appear in Google &mdash; it should always be in quotes so that the reader does not have to worry about the truth of the matter. I am operating on the assumption that [[James Wales]] best reflects the truth at the moment. -- [[User:75.25.183.186|75.25.183.186]] 20:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
: Per [[WP:NCP]]: ''"the name of an article should be "the most common name of a person or thing that does not conflict with the names of other people or things"''. [[User:Titoxd|Tito]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Titoxd|?!?]])</sup> 20:38, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
::That is fine for the name of the article. But the standard practice - even for Linda Lovelace, is to put the true legal name of the person in bold print first - no matter how cumbersome it might be. Check out Napolean's entry, for instance. Wait, those are dead people. Check out, uh, [[Juan Carlos I of Spain]]. Super-long name, all spelled out. As much detail as possible about the true name. And let me acknowledge: many, perahps most, people want to be known by there nickname or informal name because because it is more friendly. We can do that to some degree, but let us report the Ojbective truth first. -- [[User:67.116.255.227|67.116.255.227]] 22:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

: I believe Jimmy has stated here in the past that this is indeed his given name, and that this is not uncommon in Alabama. Dig through the archives.--[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]][[User:Eloquence/CP|*]] 22:26, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

::Thanks El! It is [[Talk:Jimmy Wales/Archive 1#"James"?]]. Quote:
:::'' I'm from Alabama. My real name is Jimmy. Strange, perhaps, but true.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 09:46, 20 October 2005 (UTC)''
::Perhaps it would be best to assure our readers of this strange fact. I chose to juxtapose the two facts but not attempt to develop a cause/effect relationship. I leave that to [[Tom Lehrer]], such as in his "Who's Next?". -- [[User:67.116.255.227|67.116.255.227]] 22:49, 9 July 2006 (UTC)







== A fine point about Jimmy's wealth ==

[[Community property#United States]] does not list Illinois or Florida as a commnity property state and Jimmy clearly made his millions while a resident of Illinois. Should the lead section state that Jimmy is wealthy or that both he and his wife are wealthy? I am just looking to made a de facto statement about how much claim Christine has to that pile of dough. Jimmy's income is for the purposes of <s>a DissoMaster</s> child support calculations (no good page on Wikipeida..yet) is probably negligeable so it is not like child support would ever amount to much. What say you all? -- [[User:67.121.146.37|67.121.146.37]] 06:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
:Note: DissoMaster™ is a registered trademark of [[Thomson]] [[Thomson West|West]] - and should not be used as a generic term. --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 15:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
::Uh, Mr. name-with-the-umlaut-in-it, that term sure as heck is used as a generic tern in ''my'' U.S. state because is has a pratical and profound impact on everyday people. You slashing it out only impairs communication but I will find a more appropriate phrase is you continue to [[quibble]] so. -- [[User:67.119.194.1|67.119.194.1]] 16:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
::: That hasn't gained prominence in my state as a generic term - and, as an attorney, you should know that in addition to being disrespectful to misuse a trademark - the misuse of a trademark in a publication can subject one to a [[Cease and desist]] order - ps --[http://translate.google.com/translate_t?text=Junk&langpair=en|de Trödel][[User talk:Trödel|<small>talk</small>]] 01:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
:I do not have millions of dollars. I do not even have one million dollars.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 16:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

But you're still rich thanks to this gigantic helpful site, so you should feel happy about it Master of Wikipedia, or founder of the site, Jimbo Wales. [[User:24.188.203.181|24.188.203.181]] 22:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

:Anon - we're all rich thanks to this gigantic helpful site. -- [[User:RyanFreisling]] [[User_talk:RyanFreisling|@]] 22:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

== Some information about the start ==

Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJimmy_Wales&diff=55321582&oldid=55105689, where Jimbo himself explains a bit more:
:''"though he has acknowledged that there was no causal connection between this suggestion and the creation of Wikipedia." - no, that isn't what I said. There is a big difference between acknowledging that Larry's mention of wikis to me "actually and directly" led to me installing the first wiki software, and "acknowledging" that there was no causal connection at all between Jeremy's suggestion. Jeremy suggested it first, then my daughter wa born and I was busy with that, and when I got back Larry suggested it, and I set up the wiki. There is more to the story than that, but I am just making light editorial comments today, and have no desire to see this edit linked to as even more original research in the article.''
-- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 03:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

== FloNight is being destructive ==

Would somebody let FloNight know that her mindless revert is not welcome? Sorting out how Wikipedia got started is a lot of work and her revert is easy and mindless. -- [[User:67.119.194.1|67.119.194.1]] 08:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Again: this is A LOT of work. FloNight: please make changes in a forward fashion by reading, comprehending and THEN carefully modifying and commiting your changes. -- [[User:64.175.42.120|64.175.42.120]] 08:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I stongly suspect that this is a banned user (see contributions) [[User:Theresa knott|Theresa Knott]] | [[User talk:Theresa knott|Taste the Korn]] 09:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Theresa, I do not mean to be disrespectful, but... so what? -- [[User:64.175.42.120|64.175.42.120]] 09:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Banned users are not allowed to post. Everything they add can be reverted. Now please go away. [[User:Theresa knott|Theresa Knott]] | [[User talk:Theresa knott|Taste the Korn]] 09:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

== Theresa Knott is being much more destructive ==

because she is not just deeply reverting but using her admin privledges to impose her will on the rest of the worldwide Community and supress a very clear and useful version of this article. That will destroy much more of the Community shared trust than anything FloNight ever did. -- [[User:67.119.195.139|67.119.195.139]] 09:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

It certainly will prevent a banned user from editing the articles in question. That's for sure. Bye Bye. [[User:Theresa knott|Theresa Knott]] | [[User talk:Theresa knott|Taste the Korn]] 10:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Theresa, I have only six additional years of experience and living than you do, but I suspect that your attempts to dust me off will be considerably more than you bargained for. Good luck, my dear. -- [[User:67.116.255.7|67.116.255.7]] 10:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

:It must really kill you that i have that protect button. [[User:Theresa knott|Theresa Knott]] | [[User talk:Theresa knott|Taste the Korn]] 10:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

== Page should be reverted to version before anon edits ==

The extensive recent anon editing to this page have made it significantly worse than normal, and should be, in my opinion, reverted or anyhow significantly edited. I note the following factual errors, some of which are based on original research:

I am commenting today on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jimmy_Wales&oldid=63199727 this version]. I will not bother commenting on some of the really bad writing, such as "modern computer labs and other technology equipment".

# I have never been a foreign currency speculator.
# My date of birth is not August 8, 1966.
# My father is not retired.
# "Within two years (1994 to 1996) had earned enough to "support himself and his wife for the rest of their lives." - We state as fact something that even Wired Magazine does not state as fact (because, as written, it is not true).
# "he has since then declined to comment about the matter" is false.
# "He is a vocal supporter of David Kelley" is false.

--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 16:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

:Not an expert on this subject so I'm not sure I reverted far enough back. Would SOMEONE that is an expert on this topic let me know. (Banned users excluded). --[[User:FloNight|<font color="darkblue">'''FloNight'''</font>]] [[User talk:FloNight|<font color="green"><sup>''talk''</sup></font>]] 16:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

::How far back did you revert? I was planning to revert back to 2 days ago did you go that far? [[User:Theresa knott|Theresa Knott]] | [[User talk:Theresa knott|Taste the Korn]] 16:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Yes, farther. I went to the 7th, I think. After that there were too many edits that I didn't know about. --[[User:FloNight|<font color="darkblue">'''FloNight'''</font>]] [[User talk:FloNight|<font color="green"><sup>''talk''</sup></font>]] 16:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

::::I think that everything with IP address 75, 68, or 67 is Morrow. Maybe some other ones too. Not to worry, he will call me or write if I am wrong. ; - ) [[User:FloNight|<font color="darkblue">'''FloNight'''</font>]] [[User talk:FloNight|<font color="green"><sup>''talk''</sup></font>]] 17:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

== More complaints ==

# Atlantis was never a moderated mailing list, and I was never the moderator of it. This was a mailing list which was hosted as a courtesy to a friend for a few years, and it was owned and operated by him. If you follow the link to the archive.org page (WP:NOR, not that this rule seems to apply to my article for some unexplained reason!) you will find my name listed as "run by"... this only means that I was the administrator of the mailing list in the technical sense at that time. Not moderator. (I frankly think that the entire mention of both this mailing list and the other one are absurd original research unless and until they are mentioned in a publication!)
#: Removed per [[WP:V]], dead link. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 17:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
# It is quite frankly absurd to quote the talk page of the article in the article. WP:NOR. If it is not published in a mainstream publication, it does not belong in Wikipedia. Period.
#:Agreed. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 17:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
# 3 days ago, my father was not retired. Today, he is still not retired.
#:Removed. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 17:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
# Again, the "earned enough to support himself" is contested, and should be written as "According to Wired Magazine" if it is to be included at all.
#:The source is not what I would call a [[WP:RS|reliable source]], so I have removed it. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 02:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
# Claiming that "the Wikipedia community" considered Larry to be co-founder wildly oversteps the cite, which indicates that perhaps some people thought so.
#:Agreed, was inserted during a bout of edit warring. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 17:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
# Wired Magazine and Wired News are entirely separate entities. See the Roger Cadenhead reference.
#:It just should link to the correct name, and also to the actuall website, not to Roger's webpage, and it was a different editor as well. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 02:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 14:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
:I have done that were easy, and I will look at the others in due time.-- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 17:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
:: I have gone through your comments, and changed them as I think they should be represented. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 02:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, Wired Magazine and Wired News are [http://www.wired.com/news/technology/internet/0,71366-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 not] entirely separate entities. But that's a very new development you might not have known about. --[[User:Michael Snow|Michael Snow]] 16:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
::Fair enough, but my point still stands. :) The Cadenhead story was in Wired News, not Wired Magazine.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 20:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, the difference does matter, particularly at the time of the publication in question. --[[User:Michael Snow|Michael Snow]] 20:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

== DOB self references ==

Many references at the web have used previous wikipedia articles to get their information abouyt Jimmy Wales, and it has been copied many times over the internet, often quite literally. This results in a serious circular problem and requires extreem care in which sources are used. As an example, the sentence "Jimmy Donal "Jimbo" Wales (born August 7, 1966)" results in 36 google hits [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Jimmy+Donal+%22Jimbo%22+Wales+(born+August+7,+1966)%22&num=40&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&filter=0]. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 04:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

:: I agree we should avoid duplicate phraseology which is why I use didn't use all those and except for the Holland conference and the jp article you edited out - sorry I didn't notice the "-Wikipedia" at the end of the bio - the other references do not include this phrase. --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 05:01, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I think all of those are copies of some text, be it wikipedia, wikimedia or whatever. A source that I think is reliable is the foundation website, and Jimbo himself added his DOB[http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Board_of_Trustees&diff=prev&oldid=406], and I have changed the cite to "{{cite web |author=Wikimedia Foundation Inc.| title = Board of Trustees | url = http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Board_of_Trustees&diff=prev&oldid=406 | accessdate =2006-07-15}}". -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 16:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: While I agree that Jimbo would have no reason to lie - that is original research. Where the press release from the Foundation would not be - even if Jimbo was the source - since they have an interest in making sure the information is correct. Additionally - the same is true for the speaker bios - when I have spoken at conference they made some minimal effort to verify my bio even though my company provided it. I would keep the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Press_kit/Old press kit] - or the [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/e/ee/Presskit.pdf PDF of the press kit]. --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 17:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::At [[Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Reliable_sources]]: ''Information found in self-published books, newspapers, or websites/blogs should never be used, '''unless written by the subject''''', and as such, this counts as a source that can be used as it is written by himself. The press kit can (and has been edited) by others, which has the same problem as this website, that everybody can add what they want. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 18:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Then I seriously don't understand verifiability - as the same is true about anything that anyone rights - they can add whatever they want. But an employer has access to factual information like a driver's license that can verify a bd, where I can claim I was born years earlier or later should I have motive to do so - and if I self-publish - that can be reported as fact? I would think it would have to be reported as "xx claims he was born xx/xx/xxxx" --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 19:04, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::As far as I understand verifiability is that people should be able to check the facts added to wikipedia using reliable sources. As [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] explicite states, ''The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is thus '''verifiability, not truth'''.'' That leads to the next question, is this source reliable? I think the websites of compagnies are acceptable sources for what they say about themselves (See for example [[SMS.ac, Inc.]], where Jimbo himself has been editing recently). The foundation website is equivalent to that (not free to edit by unapproved people), and as such, the information added by Jimmy Wales about Jimmy Wales is a pretty strong source as far as I am concerned. But I might have the interpretation of the policies and guidelines wrong ..... -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 03:40, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

::Well given the policy wording 'written by the subject' and the fact that we link to the diff, should we make the author of the source 'Jimmy Wales', rather than 'Wikimedia Foundation inc'? --[[User:Robdurbar|Robdurbar]] 17:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, sounds reasobnable. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 17:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

== edits by a banned user ==

75.24.215.50 and other similar IPs are being used by [[Wikipedia:List of banned users|banned user]] [[Wikipedia:List of banned users#Amorrow|Amorrow]]. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 05:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

:And apparently was last here as 67.119.194.1 on 11 July 2006. It might be wise to semiprotect unless someone wants to deal with a new round of Amorrow. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 05:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

::Semiprotection is back on. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 05:30, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

==Opinion Essay: The Overuse of Anonymity at Wikipedia and a Proposal==

Moved to [[User_talk:Jimbo_Wales]] per Kim's comment below. Click here:
::'''[[User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Opinion_Essay:_The_Overuse_of_Anonymity_at_Wikipedia_and_a_Proposal|Opinion Essay: The Overuse of Anonymity at Wikipedia and a Proposal]]'''

:Ben, you might want to post this at his user talk page instead: [[User_talk:Jimbo Wales]]. -- [[User:KimvdLinde|Kim van der Linde]] <sup>[[User talk:KimvdLinde|at venus]]</sup> 19:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::An even better place would be it's own page, for example [[Wikipedia:The overuse of anonymity at Wikipedia and a proposal]] and then tag it with {{tl|essay}} /[[User:Wangi|wangi]] 21:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

==The New Yorker Interview==

There's some good stuff that should be included, especially the following section which talks about this article:
"Even Wales has been caught airbrushing his Wikipedia entry—eighteen times in the past year. He is particularly sensitive about references to the porn traffic on his Web portal. “Adult content” or “glamour photography” are the terms that he prefers, though, as one user pointed out on the site, they are perhaps not the most precise way to describe lesbian strip-poker threesomes. (In January, Wales agreed to a compromise: “erotic photography.”) " --[[User:172.193.51.67|172.193.51.67]] 20:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

: Um, see "Controversy". -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 17:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[[Category:Wikipedian autobiography|Wales, Jimbo]]

== vandalism and unprotection ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jimmy_Wales&diff=67336648&oldid=67304836 almost 3 hours] before the first one - that is much better than I expected when I saw the summary. --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 23:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== 40th Birthday ==

So is there going to be a gigantic Wiki-birthday in three days when Jimbo turns 40? [[User:BirdValiant|BirdValiant]] 04:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I could see one happening, maybe Jimbo will get a present or two for his birthday, can't wait for it. [[User:Volt M|Volt M]] 23:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

== Photo ==

[[Image:Jimbo at Stanford 17 May 2006.png|thumb|right|Jimbo Wales, Wednesday, May 17, 7:00 p.m. lecture at the Peter Wallenberg Learning Theater, Wallenberg Hall, Stanford University]]

I was at the Stanford talk in May and took a dozen photos. This is the best one. Shortly afterwards, my camera died.

I fully realize this is a pathetic photo, but I like the profile, and the thoughtful expression. All of the photos on commons look like tourist shots or candid someone-at-computer stuff. [[User:Anonomister|Anonomister]] 08:01, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

: I believe we have a formal photographer going around the conference, and taking formal photos of the board. We'll wait until then to make any decisions. -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 18:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== First name ==

Professionally, he is Jimmy. Personally, he is Jimbo. Legally he is James. Why don't we mention his birthname anywhere? -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 17:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:I believe his legal name is Jimmy - can't remember where I verified that though. --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 22:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== Personal life ==

Trodel deleted "Wales lives in [[St. Petersburg, Florida]] with his wife and daughter." This has been in the article forever, and is verifiable, and is the sort of stuff you see in many articles. Why don't we keep it? -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 17:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Do you have a source?--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 18:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

== Quote from Encyclopædia Britannica ==

I referenced this quote; however, I think it shows that EB doesn't follow a neutrality standard rather than being a good reference - thus I think it should be removed. --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 00:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
:How is EB not neutral? On the contrary, it's Wikipedia's coverage of Objectivism which tends to be biased, since a disproportionate share of those who edit the related articles are themselves Objectivists, while in the general population they are marginal. It's the same with many fringe groups; most people who are interested enough to write about them are adherents, so you get a systemic bias. [[User:Margana|Margana]] 01:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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