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THE SHIT WILL SOMEONE TO A BIRTHDAY WISH. STUPID JIMBO WALES !!! LONG LIVE SEIGENTHALER AND BRITANNICA !!! DOWN WITH WIKIPEDIA !!
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[http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/Mission_Statement Something fun from Jimbo for the politically inclined]
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== [[Wikipedia talk:Delete unused username after 90 days]] ==

Hi just a note to say that it has reached 200 in favour (with just 14 opposing) which seems to be a good time to implement for most people. Just wondering if you could find out how as you have a position on the board (and if it is allowed) [[User:Lcarsdata|Lcarsdata]] 17:49, [[6 July]] [[2006]] (UTC)

== [[:es:Usuario:Angus|Angus]] ==

hello,

I believe that you are the owner of wikipedia no. I have understood that your you can clear an administrator of its functions, then this user I want that you see what puts:
[http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usuario_Discusi%C3%B3n:Angus&diff=next&oldid=3871498]

[http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usuario_Discusi%C3%B3n:Rossoneri_100%25&diff=prev&oldid=3871556]

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votaciones/2006/Sobre_el_n%C3%BAmero_m%C3%ADnimo_de_ediciones_necesarias_para_tener_derecho_a_voto#Propuesta_7_.28angus.29

the author of this message is:[[:es:Usuario:Rossoneri 100%]]

==User Themindset trying to corrupt SMS.ac page again.==

Themindset is reverting from actual quotes out of the source material to biased NPOV violating rhetoric which is not contained in the text of the source article.

See Talk page for details.

==Reeves Guy==
I am Reeves Guy and Wales has been more understanding than anybody else, the point now is, to make him believe it was makemi, herostratus and few other administrative vandals who made things worse, not me and worse... releasing names of my former club, people who have nothing to do with this, great detectives you all are, when I improved paul bern site with correct bio, same for rocky, corrected links, that was reversed, then it was reversed again after I was prooven right, but nobody said anything... as usual!<p>
Hey, hmm, I do not think you are any better than your administrative vandals, who joined together, all of them, against one or two people, but worse are those who believe them...

== Can you help me? ==


Hi my name is Ahmad Najib Biabani Ibrahimkhel which corresponds
to my username: احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل
i am one of the sysop of Pashto wikipedia, now i would like to be the sysop of http://ps.wikitionary.org

and

http://ps.wikibooks.org

in order to change the interface into the real Afghan language.

Now if you could please help me with that i would be thankful to you. Or if you could provide me information on how i can apply for that?

regards
Ahmad Najib Biabani Ibrahimkhel
==Administrative Change==
Big boss man, I'd recommend you get rid of few administrators here, you know the names, I suggest administrators go thru better screening process, many of them simply have no life, no b/f, no g/f and have nothing better to do but revert correct edits on wikipedia and address changes such as play into played as vandalism... I would like to remind everybody that majority could be wrong... it took them forever to put footnote under Chopin's birthday, they did not put it because majority of administrators did not agree... So I repeat the following...
May I remind you... from Fulton J Sheen (and others):<p>

<b><i>The majority is not always right! Majority is right in the field of the relative but not in the absolute and objective (crteria too). Majority is a legitimate test so long as voting is based on conscience and not on propaganda. Truth does not win when numbers alone become decisive. Numbers alone can decide a beauty queen, but not justice. Beaty is a matter of taste, but justice is tasteless and sour. Right is STILL right if nobody is right and wrong is STILL wrong if everybody is wrong, at any time, at any place. The first poll in Christianity was wrong but so were many other polls. So, these should be the words by which wikipedia and their administrators should live by, THE GOLDEN RULE...<p></i></b><p>
Inductively Strong Argument-
The conclusion of an inductively strong argument is probably true if all its premises are true. But even if the middle sentence is true and the rest is wrong, the argument can still be considered true..But even that statement could be wrong if it is thrown to the dogs who have their own views. Then self evident truth becomes non-existent.Theory that truth is relative to a group.

The truth or falsity of moral statements is relative to some
individual or group, e.g. Administrators on wiki have their own policy. The the truth of moral or any statements is relative to individuals. Then it becomes the only criteria/system of administering, which in its underlying structure and sense could be wrong and was prooven wrong many times here..But then again, hmmm nobody will understand logic behind this statement anyways, ah well, it's vandalism, no doubt!<br>

George Reeves Lives Fella

== Your intervention in a very important issue at the Spanish Wikipedia ==

Dear Jimbo,

In the Spanish Wikipedia, they have a "This user is a nazi" userbox: [[:es:Plantilla:Usuario nazi]]. They're now voting on deleting it, and it seems like no consensus will be reached and the template will stay in its place. I hope you can see what's very wrong with this template, and attempt to force them remove it for the good faith of Wikipedia. Thanks, '''⌠[[User:Yellow up|Yellow up]]⌡''' 12:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:Jimbo, two articles at two major Israeli news websites have been posted about this subject: at [http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=385818&sid=127 Nana] and [http://www.nrg.co.il/online/10/ART1/455/605.html NRG]. I did not tell the writers about this issue, and I did not ask anybody to post anything about this, but they found the information here at the Wiki by themselves and decided it's worth publishing. I think it just shows You how much us Jews are insulted by this userbox, and I believe You should also, as I would be insulted if I see a userbox saying "This user supports killing all Hispanos/immigrants/Arabs/homosexuals." I do not see ''any reason'' for this provocative userbox to stay. Somebody saying in his userpage he supports the party which killed 6 million Jews and 5 million people just because they belong to other cultures and religions just 60 years ago, should simply not be at a Wikipedia. Regards, '''⌠[[User:Yellow up|Yellow up]]⌡''' 01:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
::I'm looking forward to your reply. Regards, '''⌠[[User:Yellow up|Yellow up]]⌡''' 20:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

== Colbert Report Appearance ==

Jimbo, perhaps you could communicate to the Colbert Report staff that you would like to go on the show to represent Wikipedia? Just an idea --[[User:NickCatal|Nick Catalano]] <sub><span style="text-decoration:none">[[Special:Contributions/NickCatal|contrib]]</span></sub> <sup><span style="position: relative; left: -36px; margin-right: -36px; text-decoration:none;">[[User talk:NickCatal|talk]]</span></sup> 07:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:This is a great idea. It might be embarassing for him to do so however when administrators won't even allow the "Wikiality" segement on Colbert's show to be written about on wikipedia. They've essentially kept it off the Colbert Report entry, arguing that it is "not notable". Seems like biased bunk to me. [[User:Ivymike21|Ivymike21]] 20:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Um, has anyone anywhere written anything about the term beyond simple reporting of its coinage? [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] 22:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::It's alive and well in [[List of The Colbert Report episodes]] and the episode is referenced in [[truthiness]].... it's just not in the main [[The Colbert Report]] article. (FWIW, I also think it would be a good idea to go on the show and explain the 'pedia to them man, face to face.) [[User:JDoorjam|JDoorj]][[User:JDoorjam/Esperanza|<font color="green">a</font>]][[User:JDoorjam|m]] [[User Talk:JDoorjam|Talk]] 23:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I agree with the idea of you appearing on the show, Mr. Wales, although I was thinking that Colbert seemed to be intentionally damaging our Wikipedia and was wondering if there was some way you could pursue legal action. After all, he did tell people to vandalize the wiki on television.[[User:Finite|Finite]] 00:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Um, so? Are they anything more than simple reporting of its coinage? Do they discuss the ramifications of the word's invention? Of its meaning? Of its import? And if they do, is the analysis sourced or is it original research? [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] 01:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Colbert also told teenagers that they could make a lot of money by using liquid nitrogen and hammers to breaks chains to steal bikes and they should bring sissors to stab people who tried to stop them. Humor and free speech are both under attack and Colbert is one of the good guys. Don't blame Colbert for the behavior of idiots who act on a fucking joke. [[User:WAS 4.250|WAS 4.250]] 00:31, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Now that Colbert AGAIN mentioned Wikipedia, I think it would be very appropriate to go on the show. Just an opinion. (and don't forget, they are probably trolling the site as we speak, as we found out tonight) --[[User:NickCatal|Nick Catalano]] <sub><span style="text-decoration:none">[[Special:Contributions/NickCatal|contrib]]</span></sub> <sup><span style="position: relative; left: -36px; margin-right: -36px; text-decoration:none;">[[User talk:NickCatal|talk]]</span></sup> 09:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

:I don't watch his show. Did he last night mention wikipedia again and what did he say? [[User:Anomo|Anomo]] 10:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

*:[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvA2_wX1p4o&mode=related&search= Watch] and be enlightened. Btw, RIGHT ON WAS:>

== The GraalOnline page ==
Hi Jim,

I don't known if you are aware of the issue with the [[GraalOnline]] page but your foundation is really becoming crazy just because a group of people have decided to vandalize the [[GraalOnline]] page helped by a mediator. Me and my company were attacked in the modified [[GraalOnline]] article so we have enforced the [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] and deleted the section. Your assistant [[Danny]] have banned all my company accounts saying we have made off wiki threads because someone reported to him that we have banned someone from GraalOnline because he was involve on this propaganda war. This is completly false and this player was banned 1 month before for Credit Card Fraud... This story is now transformed in a private war between Daniel Bryant protected by some people on the wikimedia foundation. The goal is to now delete the [[GraalOnline]] content using [[Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules]] because all reason given previously to delete the article were not conform with wikipedia rules.
Please have a look at my personal page [[User_talk:Graal_unixmad]] (blocked now) and also the [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/GraalOnline]] and you will understand what i am saying.

I think you are the only one to be able to calm everyone down; this is really the credibility of your foundation that is involved in this story. This is a little bit simple to call me crazy Frenchman ([[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/GraalOnline]]) , because I am defending my company, my reputation and our main product GraalOnline


Thanks for your time.

Stephane. [[User:Graal unixmad|Graal unixmad]] 18:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:Oh, and my two bob is as follows: Danny is dealing with case, and has been for a long time. The information above is one-sided, just the like article which is about to be deleted. If I thought it was worth my time, I would explain every one of the above points, but I don't feel it's worth it. Because Danny and Brad are not accepting Graal's point-of-view on this matter for reasons which seem pretty obvious to the outside viewer, do not be slanted to accept the above statement over your experienced staff team who know all the facts. He has decided to come right to the top because all below you disagree with him, and I reccomend you seek Danny's and Brad's advice concerning what could be considered the ''whole truth'' before accepting the above statement. Thank you. '''[[User:Daniel.Bryant|<font face="tahoma" color="#086F9A">Killfest2</font>]]—[[User:Daniel.Bryant/Esperanza|<font face="tahoma" color="green">Daniel.Bryant</font>]]''' 07:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Jim, i think you will appreciate how this guy is tracking all my writting and coming after me. He is so confortable with what i am saying that he need to come after me and explain to others what they need to do or think about this issue. Look really close to this issue because me and lot of others think this is a serious issue and this guy and perhaps some member of your team have really broken lot of wikipedia rules and i will say broken also lot of basic rules of human relationship. We have taken contact with journalist and we are in the process to publish it so everyone known about this story and how wikimedia have dealt with this. [[User:87.88.155.179|87.88.155.179]] 20:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Clever how you don't sign in when making edits which could get you banned. Is that the kind of deviancy we should be promoting around Wikipedia? I don't think so. And by the way, the only reason I came to this page in the first place was it was on my watchlist. Notice how I didn't actually see the comment until about a day after you made it? That was because I only come thru here every day or so. Give it up, Stephane. '''[[User:Daniel.Bryant|<font face="tahoma" color="#086F9A">Killfest2</font>]]—[[User:Daniel.Bryant/Esperanza|<font face="tahoma" color="green">Daniel.Bryant</font>]]''' 06:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== The high costs of a ribbon...and Dutch misery ==

Sir,

On the page " [[Order of the Crown (Netherlands)]]" you have deleted the words " The background of this decision seems to have been the high costs of the silk ribbon of the Order of the Crown." and asked for a reference.
I am a member of the Dutch Society of collectors of Orders and medals. We meet every few months in the " Het Loo " palace ( Rijksmuseum Paleis het Loo ) where we discuss current events with the director of the museum of the chancellary of Dutch orders of knighthood. The story about the costs came from him.
He added that he was curious about the reaction of the wives of visiting presidents who could find themselves honoured with a small silver medal.
To foreigners it may sound incredeble but the Dutch are a very thrifty nation!
Is the reference good enough?

Faithfully yours,

Robert Prummel [[User:Robert Prummel|Robert Prummel]] 23:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I have asked the heraldic sculptor of the British court if i could use the pictures on his website in Wikipedia articles. He was delighted! I have to mention the name or he artist offcourse.
Soon the beautifull carved crests in Saint George's chapel in Windsor , St. Giles' cathedral and Westminster abbey will appear on Wikipedia.

:If I may be so bold, may I refer you to [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] which states "Information on Wikipedia must be reliable. Facts, viewpoints, theories, and arguments may only be included in articles if they have already been published by reliable and reputable sources". Its a shame wikipedia can't contain things that are true but unverifyable, but that's the cost of trying to be reliable. [[User:WAS 4.250|WAS 4.250]] 16:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

You are right but we will never get it published in the Netherlands... EVERYONE IS AFRAID OF THE QUEEN! Her Majesty even managed to surpress a floor-plan of the 17th. century Het Loo palace in a book commemorating King William III. ( 1650-1702) The map showed the stairs between the Kings appartement and the rooms of his probable lover Mister Keppel. How do I know this? A good friend who was involved in publishing the book told me. Will he publicly confirm the story? Oh never.. He is a civil servant. The Queen is well known for her ambition to controll everything concerning her family and ancestors. [[User:Robert Prummel|Robert Prummel]] 15:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

== Roman Catholic category ==

I thought that I had heard that you were Roman Catholic, so I added you to the category. If this isn't the case, I apologize, and will remove it for you. Thanks for letting me know.--[[User:Edmonde Dantes|<font color="purple">'''The Count of Monte Cristo'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Edmonde Dantes|'''<font color="Red">Parley</font>''']]</sup> 21:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Good grief. I know this will sound harsh, but I think you should perhaps consider finding another hobby if you think "I thought I heard that..." is a valid basis for inclusion of a claim in an encyclopedia!--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 22:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:Hahaha, wow. Looks like Wales doesn't really like Catholicism[[User:DominicS|DominicS]] 05:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== User talk:Stephencolbert ==

Are we going to block the user [[User:Stephencolbert|Stephencolbert]]. Some admins are up in arms about it on [[User talk:Stephencolbert|the user's talk page]]. This is a decision I reccomend you or another foundation member make, as I would imagine it may come up outside of Wikipedia (in the press, elsewhere?) --[[User:NickCatal|Nick Catalano]] <sub><span style="text-decoration:none">[[Special:Contributions/NickCatal|contrib]]</span></sub> <sup><span style="position: relative; left: -36px; margin-right: -36px; text-decoration:none;">[[User talk:NickCatal|talk]]</span></sup> 00:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:Have you read the talk page? The account is already blocked, and admins are trying to confirm whether or not it's actually Colbert. If it is, and he wants to petition to be unblocked, he can do so (though, celebrity or no, the account has done nothing but vandalize the site and violate [[WP:AUTO]]). If it isn't, it's a [[WP:USERNAME]] violation. Case closed. [[User:JDoorjam|JDoorj]][[User:JDoorjam/Esperanza|<font color="green">a</font>]][[User:JDoorjam|m]] [[User Talk:JDoorjam|Talk]] 01:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::That isn't what I said. I know it is blocked, some Admins want to make it a perma-block. --[[User:NickCatal|Nick Catalano]] <sub><span style="text-decoration:none">[[Special:Contributions/NickCatal|contrib]]</span></sub> <sup><span style="position: relative; left: -36px; margin-right: -36px; text-decoration:none;">[[User talk:NickCatal|talk]]</span></sup> 02:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Indeed, the block was done to verify it actually is Colbert himself. Anyone could have created an account with that username, and if we get reasonable evidence that it ''is'' him, he may be unblocked. [[User:Titoxd|Tito]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Titoxd|?!?]])</sup> 01:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::: I think it's an imposter because it did not vandalize any articles about elephants. [[User:Anomo|Anomo]] 01:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:::: View the skit again. He modified the Oregon part of the entry, as he intended to. Although I dunno if his staff knew it would be turned around so quick --[[User:NickCatal|Nick Catalano]] <sub><span style="text-decoration:none">[[Special:Contributions/NickCatal|contrib]]</span></sub> <sup><span style="position: relative; left: -36px; margin-right: -36px; text-decoration:none;">[[User talk:NickCatal|talk]]</span></sup> 03:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

==Highways==
I am coming to you because I am not sure what else to do. Here we have users-- valuable users-- who are being driven away from Wikipedia or from the highways area by [[User:SPUI|SPUI]], even though he is under ArbCom sanctions-- actually, two of them. These users include, but are not limited to, [[User:PHenry|PHenry]], [[User:Beirne|Beirne]], [[User:Northenglish|Northenglish]] (just yesterday), [[User:Gateman1997|Gateman1997]] (for the most part), [[User:B.Wind|B.Wind]], [[User:Rt66lt|Rt66lt]] [[User:Censorwolf|Censorwolf]], [[User:Elkman|Elkman]] (who has resorted to vandalizing his own article [[Minnesota State Highway 33]] in frustration and posting fake vandalism notices on his talk page to get himself blocked), [[User:Jonathunder|Jonathunder]] (an admin), (many of which have left essays on their talk page).. Even though I am an administrator, at times I sympathize with these people and have considered leaving myself. Basically, SPUI has been dancing around the ArbCom limitations but has not broken the "letter of the law." The ArbCom case specifically says that he may not move pages to his parenthetical contribution. However, he has changed list articles to use his new convention, tagged pages not at his convention with {{tl|cleanup-name}}, mass-tagged pages with the WikiProject-accepted infobox with {{tl|cleanup-infobox}} in favor of his own, and more of the same. (Just now I discovered that he allegedly created a coyvio, haven't looked at it yet). It is futile to reverse any of this because he will simply revert and bring an edit war. About a dozen or so posts to [[WP:AE]] and [[WP:ANI]] have been ignored or brought little change. This ... problem is slowly creeping up across the United States road area and is beginning to move to international roads.

In truth, I believe that SPUI has good knowledge and has the potential to be a valuable contributor. However, his manner of negotiation has driven people away from Wikipedia. Complaining just gets you ignored. I do not believe that this is the Wiki way. I realize that you must be busy with running Wikimedia, but if you could please give your thoughts regarding the situation, that would be helpful. Regards, '''[[User:Rschen7754|Rschen7754]] ([[User_talk:Rschen7754|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|contribs]]) ''' 19:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::Am I missing something here? If this is a disruptive user and you're an admin, why don't you block him, and, if he continues such behaviour, add increasingly longer blocks? Presumably he has no special exemption from good behaviour which other editors are expected to adhere to. [[User:Tyrenius|Tyrenius]] 11:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, the wheel wars that has started. In the past, SPUI has been unblocked very quickly after being blocked by various admins. The current one might actually hold, though, as it's for probabtion violation. Time will tell. [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] 15:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, some admin (usually the same ones) come to SPUI's rescue. Then you go and reblock and someone unblocks him. And then at the last ArbCom someone accused me of having a conflict of interest (although SPUI was clearly violating [[WP:ANI]] move restrictions). --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rschen7754]] ([[User_talk:Rschen7754|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|contribs]]) ''' 16:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:I would like to add a few comments about SPUI and the whole situation, and his lack of respect for authority, copyrights, or other people in general:
:*[http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/fc2901e7f2707791 Copyright Infringement 2003]
:*[http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/2b03f0428689ca9a More Copyright Infringement 2005] - Here is where I discovered SPUI had literally lifted a lot of material and research for Wikipedia from my former web-site Ohio Valley Transit.
:*[http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/browse_thread/thread/1011f87859cccbfc/10872356878b7916 Copyright Infringement (from AARoads)]
:*[http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/browse_frm/thread/577a7872c929b124/4e29a6c1b3bc5600?lnk=gst&q=SPUI+Sherman&rnum=23#4e29a6c1b3bc5600 Photo Lifting with prior examples by Douglas Kerr]
:*Has gone in and added various cleanup tags to pages without initating a discussion or even mentioning it other than the fact that "he feels like it,"
:*Has requested major page renames, such as what he did on [[Ohio State Highway 7]]. As what he stated on [[User_talk:Youngamerican]], he did zero research (other than a "general Google search") to which I refuted with research that I have conducted,
:*Renamed pages or attempted to, preferring his own naming convention despite no attempt being made to discuss it or come to a conclusion on what should be done. Basically, taking matters into his own hands. [[User:Seicer| '''<span style="color: #B33C1A; font: Trebuchet MS; font-size: 10px;">Seicer</span>''']] <small>([[User talk:Seicer|talk]])</small> 19:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

==WP Board of Trustees election==

Jimbo, I notice the following, regarding the election to the WP Board: "Candidates should be aware that Board positions are not paid and do not offer per diems; Trustees must be able to financially support their activities as a Trustee (including international travel) and must be able to devote a significant amount of time to Trustee duties."

In my view, Board members should be reimbursed for their receipted travel expenses and related meal expenses. Otherwise, you're severely limiting who can legitimately participate in the elections, resulting in a form of elitism.

For example, I remember reading something about [[User:Kelly Martin]] requiring financial assistance from friends etc. to attend a recent Wikipedia event, so I'm somewhat surprised that she's seeking a spot on the Board under the present rules -- rules that I think are unfortunately flawed.

A change in the rules (and a reasonable one in my opinion) would eliminate this perceived problem. How would I go about getting such a change on the Board's agenda? I have left the same message on [[User:Essjay]]'s talk page. Best regards. [[User:Barry Wells|Barry Wells]] 00:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)



== Live action graphic images ==

Please believe me when I say that I am not puritanical or anything but there are a number of images on any number of articles that can be said to relate to anything remotely sexual that really seem somewhat out of place or inappropriate. I don't really have a problem with similar images that can actually be useful to the article, and its not like the ones that I do take issue with offend my sensibilities or anything, but I really feel these images reflectly badly on the quality of the articles involved and on wikipedia as a whole. I would not normally engage you for this matter it is just that every time I remove one of these pictures, they seem to reappear almost immediatly due to the efforts of a dedicated group whose ostensible reasons for doing so do not seem entirely true. I would hate to judge a book by its cover, but probably the editor most dedicated to keeping the images is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:User-mcb2.jpg this guy], [[User:MCB]].

An example of this situation can be seen on the [[clitorus]] article. I would suspect that this image: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sarahvulva.jpg] does not originate on a website that specializes in educational photographs.- [[User:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg|Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg]] | [[User talk:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg|Talk]] 14:06, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
: If you'd even looked at the image's description page, you'd have seen this text: "This photograph was taken by me using a Fuji FinePix 4700 digital camera on Jan 15 2000. The model is my wife (aged 29) and she has agreed to grant full rights to use the picture on the web. She is fully aware that the photograph is in the public domain and we release all rights." Of which part of that do you disapprove? [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] 14:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

::I really don't think it adds all that much to the article, quite the opposite in fact, I think it makes the article look kinda strange. It seems that a detailed illustration would have about equal educational value and would be far more appropriate for an encyclopedia. I suppose we could deline the picture or something, but I think such an explicit photograph is really kinda disruptive for people who aren't expecting it.- [[User:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg|Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg]] | [[User talk:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg|Talk]] 14:28, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== Being targetted; please help me ==

Through RC Patrolling, I reverted an edit by a user who appeared to be Wikistalking another (all of the new user's edits were reverting the edits of another user based off of one edit). This user ([[User:YourCousin|YourCousin]]) was then reverted by Kevin Breiterstein and myself, and I left a message on the user's page not to remove information, even if it is questionable (the information was a quote from a British TV host who was making fun of rural America). This user then went on to slander me on the article's [[Talk:Jeremy Clarkson|talk page]] repeatedly, even when I had placed a simple question to ask for him (civilly) there, as well. When the information was shown to be unsourced (and after several blocks on IPs he used to evade his block), and even after I apologized, he continued to attack me on my talk page, and even on my recently created RFA nom (that had to be sprotected from his, and other's edits). He has left messages stating "it is [his] quest to ruin [my] RFA" and I recently received a Wikipedia email from the true user, [[User:Repmart|Repmart]] who has been indefinitely blocked for warnings on disruption (which he has followed through on). I am requesting your help because the email was extremely explicit and I really do not need this kind of drama from someone who used this analogy on the situation: "Sometimes, you can make a smug remark to someone in a grocery store and then ten minutes later you're unlocking your car door and BLAM... your brains are everywhere..." All of the IPs Repmart has used in the past two days are listed at [[WP:ANI#YourCousin sockpuppeteering]] and a recent Checkuser was denied for this user, despite his extreme actions. Please help me. [[User:Ryulong|Ryūlóng]] 03:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== ANI ==

Please see [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Blocking_User:Homeontherange_sockpuppets]] - the danger when people start dismissing things as "Wikilawyering" is that this is when due process and the rule of law dies, two things that are essential for a community to succeed. "Lawyerly arguments" is the sort of nonsense that apparatchiks in a dictatorship throw out against people they're sending to the gulags. [[User:Homeontherange]]04:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== How did the videos work out? ==

Hey, just wondering how you ended up using the .flv files of Stephen Colbert. You were at WikiMania, right? (mboverload, from IRC =D) --[[User:Mboverload|mboverload]][[Special:Emailuser/Mboverload|<font color="red">@</font>]] 06:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)



== Vandalism on PBS idents ==

Ongoing vandalism on the article [[PBS idents]] by [[User:68.40.190.58]] has been getting serious recently. He has been intentionally posting false information just to get [[User:Georgia guy]] angry. Is there anything you could do about stopping this vandal? Please reply to me on my talk page if anything new about this incident is going on.--[[User:KRW|KRW]] 16:34, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

==WP Board of Trustees==

Just noticed that Article IV, Section 3 of Wikipedia Foundation Inc.'s bylaws do permit payment for expenses to trustees by resolution of the Board. So the statement that they must always pay for their own travel etc. is somewhat misleading. Best regards. [[User:Barry Wells|Barry Wells]] 00:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Who said that board members must pay for their own travel?--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 18:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

:[[user:Essjay]], under Rules for candidates [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Election_candidates_2006/En&diff=next&oldid=399731 - since removed]--[[User:Paul E Ester|Paul E. Ester]] 18:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

== [[International Council for Democratic Institutions and State Sovereignty]] ==

This week's ''[[Economist]]'' has a report about this organization as a possible front for a Russian disinformation/propagnda effort; focusing on the efforts of its reporter, [[User:Edwardlucas]], to verify the claims made for the organization in the article here. Based on that, and what Lucas reports on the talk page, I have tagged the article as a hoax and nominated it for deletion as we cannot allow Wikipedia to be used this way.

Just letting you know in case there's anything you want to say or do about this. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] 02:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday! :D ==

Hey Jimbo! {{Happy Birthday}} Hehe i got the 1st spot :D it's the 7th here in Australia btw ;) Have a good one man, here's to 40 more! --[[User:Deon555|Deon555]]|[[User:Deon555/Contact|talk]]|<font color="green">[[WP:EA|e]]</font>|<small>[[WP:ER#User:Deon555|Review Me! :D]]</small> 04:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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Have a good one :) -[[User:Ladybirdintheuk|Ladybirdintheuk]] 09:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

It said make a birthday wish for Jimbo. I wish that at each April Fools day, wikipedia and uncyclopedia switch domains just for that one day. Oh and Brian Peppers comes back that day, too, but is protected and has one link: to a YTMND search for Brian Peppers. [[User:Anomo|Anomo]] 10:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:Best wishes from Germany! -- [[:de:Benutzer:Simplicius|Simplicius]] 10:32, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== Brian Peppers ==
As I understand it, you have deleted and locked the article on Brian Peppers, and refuse to put it back up without good reason. I'll give you very good reason to put it back up. What I'm about to say also applies to The Tourettes Guy.
We are an encyclopedia. Are job is to record and give information about notable, infamous, and famous things/events/people/places, etc.. '''''WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE FEELINGS'''''. These notable articles were taken down because they were considered "mean," "rude," or "attacks." Encyclopedias are inanimate objects; they have no feelings or thought. We are only to get info on, write, and expand articles. This goes for any other article deleted for these stupid, biased reasons.
Brian Peppers, The Tourettes Guy, and all articles like them should be put back up and stay up.
Happy Birthday, Jimmy. I hope the Wikimedia foundation ''never'' dies.--[[User:WatchHawk|WatchHawk]] 07:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== BBC picture of you (are you the new God?) ==

Go to [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5243862.stm this BBC news article] (flash needed) and scroll to 2001 and you will see what I mean. :D [[User:Ian13|<span style="color:#067"><u>Ian</u>¹³</span>]][[User talk:Ian13|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">/t</span>]] 15:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Stephen Colbert ==

What is your opinion of the [[Stephen Colbert]] vandalism? Do you think Mr. Colbert meant in good humor or just distaste? Thank you.--[[User:71.197.196.45|71.197.196.45]] 03:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== New messages on wfm ==

Hi, [http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Babel#Miscellaneous can you have a look here] please? :) [[User:Meanos|jd]] 10:11, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== Robert Steele ==

There is a thread on [[WP:AN]] about some recent comments of Steele - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Robert_Steele]. Since he seems to have talked to you about it at least in part, I thought it prudent to let know. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 12:56, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== I have had a tough day wikipediaing ==

and having to mess with my pictures - scanning, photoshoping out dust, etc - was the final straw. So, i've decided to ask you to help me get a digital back for my hasselblad so that I can once again afford to use that system. Life is good. [[User:Carptrash|Carptrash]] 02:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] and a serious abuse of power. (you need to read this) ==

''Jimbo, I've just posted this on AN/I, but I've watched as similar information has been quickly deleted by the subject recently, and don't suspect she'll do the same on your talk page, so I post it here as well to be sure you're made aware. Thanks and take care.''

I am an active Wikipedian in good standing. Consistent with the letter and spirit of [[WP:SOCK]], this account was created today for the sole purpose of making the present complaint and obviously has not, nor will it ever, interface with my main account. Sockpuppet? Yes. Abusive? No.

That I feel it is necessary to do this anonymously at all is indicative of what I see as the root of this very complaint: an administrator who has come to regard herself as exempt from the policies that maintain fairness and order here, and who has lately demonstrated a certain eagerness to exercise her power in unethical ways.

=== Basics ===
[[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] appears to have abused her position for the benefit of one editor and the detriment of another, violating her ethical responsibilities to this community in the process.

I've learned that many editors know about this situation generally, since it was first described some weeks ago on another website. Instead of linking to that site, I'll summarize what I've gleaned from forum banter and my own email exchange with the the editor involved, inviting those more familiar with the specifics to follow up and fill in the gaps.

=== Details ===
Recently [[User:IPFrehley|IPFrehley]] claimed he had evidence of abusive sockpuppetry on the part of [[User:Mantanmoreland|Mantanmoreland]].

At one point he uploaded a graphic of some sort which he intended to use as a “visual aid” when making his “case” (he clearly had no idea what the hell he was doing[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IPFrehley&diff=next&oldid=64530502]).

After uploading the image but before he could do whatever he was going to do next, IPFrehley was blocked by SlimVirgin and the image deleted (but not until after she apparently let Mantanmoreland have a copy, since he does refer to it on some thread I can't find now).

Based on comments IPFrehley made in another setting, it seems that prior to this, he reached out to a few admins, explaining what he wanted to do and asking for advice. He said the only ones he specifically remembers were [[User:Morven|Morven]] and [[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]] but thinks there were three or four total requests made. None of them replied to his email, though at least one forwarded it to either SlimVirgin or Mantanmoreland, which is how she managed to intercept and block IPFrehley so quickly when he finally decided to do it by himself (she must have been waiting for it to happen).

When it did, SlimVirgin took advantage of IPFrehley's obvious lack of familiarity with [[WP:SOCK]], because she told him to send his evidence to her via email so she could judge it privately and offline[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IPFrehley&diff=next&oldid=64560423].

=== Here's where it gets interesting ===
IPFrehley says he didn't believe SlimVirgin was really interested in the evidence he was sending, so he did something a little diabolical: in the document he emailed SlimVirgin, he hid something that would alert him when it was opened (I don't get that tech stuff so don't ask me more about it), to know if it even got looked at. He says that yes it was opened, not by SlimVirgin but by '''Mantanmoreland''' -- ''''the same person his evidence accused'''!!!!! ([http://static.flickr.com/47/198379597_cc4c5bebfd_b.jpg Here's] where he explains how he knew that).

Looking over their contribution histories it's easy to see that Mantanmoreland and SlimVirgin often work in tandem. But that's no excuse for secretly passing him information sent to her in confidence and with the promise that it would be reviewed and judged appropriately.

IPFrehley says he later emailed SlimVirgin asking if there was another explanation (other than what seemed obvious...that she was sending the information to Mantanmoreland) but she refused to answer, except for apparently announcing somewhere that IPFrehley was sending her threats.

I've yet to verify that, but is sounds pretty typical of a pattern that's emerged over time.

I suspect SlimVirgin will argue that because IPFrehley has since been indef banned and even spawned some socks of his own since this episode that his claims should be disregarded.

I would respond by noting that when all this happened, IPFrehley had yet to be banned. Also, IPFrehley openly admits to creating multiple socks specifically attempting to bring this situation to the community, which he apparently tried to do more than once though record of it is gone because he was summary banned and reverted and all diffs permanently deleted from the history.

In my time as a wikipedian, I've grown to respect SlimVirgin's dedication but feel increasing concern over her fading sense of impartiality and even propriety. If what IPFrehley says is true, it represents a grave deception, violation of trust, abuse of power, and act of inexcusable cronyism on the part of SlimVirgin. I'm requesting that her administrative powers be suspended while evidence related to this and other alleged abuses be presented and reviewed by a panel other than the Arbitration Committee, which I do not feel can be impartial in this case. --[[User:SecondMostLikely|SecondMostLikely]] 06:14, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

:[[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Responses|Responses to the above on AN/I]], including [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&curid=5137507&diff=68560748&oldid=68560354 Fred's response]. [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] <sup><font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font></sup> 06:56, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

==I'm New Here, But Dismayed At What I See==
Hi, you probably will never read this, but what i've seen at

[[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Kelly Martin2]]

is unfortunate.

It seems that the rules on Wikipedia are made by strongarm tactics rather than by any process. [[User:Attic Owl|Attic Owl]] 06:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

== Help with edit summaries ==

You mentioned at Wikimania that you had problems always remembering to use an edit summary, and then I brought up that there was actually an option in the interface to force edit summary usage, but you hadn't run across it. So here's how to turn it on. Go into your preferences, click the ''Editing'' tab, and check ''Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary''. Hopefully within a month or two you'll have good enough edit summary usage to pass an Rfa :-P [[User:Cyde|<span style="color:#ff66ff;">'''Cyde Weys'''</span>]] 17:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Awesome!!!--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 18:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

: I'm sure Jimbo already knew this. [[User:Anomo|Anomo]] 19:40, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

==Attack article==

Hi Mr. Wales! Does this article belong on Wikipedia?[[User:Steve Dufour|Steve Dufour]] 18:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[[Barbara Schwarz]]

:'''Barbara Schwarz''', ''née'' '''Bretschneider''', is an [[illegal immigrant]] <ref name="slctrib">{{cite news|last=Smith|first=Christopher|url=http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/barbara_schwarz.html|title=S.L. Woman's Quest Strains Public Records System|publisher=The Salt Lake Tribune|date=[[2003-05-11]]}}</ref> from [[Germany]] living in [[Salt Lake City, Utah|Salt Lake City]], [[Utah]]. She is known for filing a record number of requests under the [[Freedom of Information Act (United States)|United States Freedom of Information Act]], for filing a large number of [[lawsuit]]s, and for posting a large number of articles to [[Usenet]] newsgroups.
::A quick review of this article shows that it is [[WP:V|referenced]] and there are sufficient sources to provide evidence of notability, and the article has survived two discussions of whether it should be deleted - which means that the community has reached concensus that the article should be included in the encyclopedia. --<font color="#06C">[[User_talk:Trödel|Trödel]]</font> 03:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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