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: I do not think that there is a need to discuss non-PC platforms in this article. Most non-PC platforms do not refer to their primary logic board(s) as motherboards and it would be inappropriate for us to refer to them as such. Doing so because we say it fits the definition of motherboard would be [[WP:SYN|synthesis]], which is strictly forbidden. [[User:Rilak|Rilak]] ([[User talk:Rilak|talk]]) 03: |
: I do not think that there is a need to discuss non-PC platforms in this article. Most non-PC platforms do not refer to their primary logic board(s) as motherboards and it would be inappropriate for us to refer to them as such. Doing so because we say it fits the definition of motherboard would be [[WP:SYN|synthesis]], which is strictly forbidden. [[User:Rilak|Rilak]] ([[User talk:Rilak|talk]]) 03: |
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The 4th edition of Modern Operating Systems, Prentice-Hall, a reliable source on operating systems and computer systems, by Andy Tanenbaum and Herbert Bos has on page 34 of chapter 1: |
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"Every PC contains a parentboard (formerly called a motherboard before political correctness hit the computer industry)." |
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This request is to include the "parentboard" in the first sentence of the article, as: |
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"A motherboard (sometimes alternatively known as the mainboard, parentboard, system board, planar board or logic board,[1] or colloquially, a mobo)" |
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Suggestion: how computer performance depends on motherboard
Hello, I'd like to find some info how computer performance depends on motherboard, for CPU , GPU, RAM, disk its quite clear, but motherboard is for me just thing which must be in computer, but I dont't understand why are there motherboards for servers, for office desktops etc. I would be pleased (and may be some other users) if there will be such an info, it would be helpful and informative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ProkopHapala (talk • contribs) 17:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing is a better place to ask. Rilak (talk) 17:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- There isn't really motherboard for server as such, but motherboard that are designed for a specific type of processor, server usual use a xeon processor as it more reliable, but that is not a rule of thumb. if you are looking for a home use motherboard your best going for intel 775 or amd 2+ sockets as there the best for home use--Andrewcrawford (talk) 11:22, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, there are such things as server motherboards. They differ from the average motherboard by the features they support such as registered ECC memory and etc. There are also gaming/enthusiast motherboards and motherboards that fit into all sorts of different categories. Its also important to note that the big iron servers, like the high-end models of the System p range from IBM or the M9000 from Fujitsu/Sun don't use motherboards - if the definition of a motherboard is a PCB that holds the CPU, RAM and expansion slots, drive interfaces, integrated peripherals, etc. Rilak (talk) 11:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- I said isn't really i did not say there is not, the motherboards that you see on sale saying server are technical just normal motherboard but high end ones, the true server motherboard are in blade servers--Andrewcrawford (talk) 11:51, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, there are such things as server motherboards. They differ from the average motherboard by the features they support such as registered ECC memory and etc. There are also gaming/enthusiast motherboards and motherboards that fit into all sorts of different categories. Its also important to note that the big iron servers, like the high-end models of the System p range from IBM or the M9000 from Fujitsu/Sun don't use motherboards - if the definition of a motherboard is a PCB that holds the CPU, RAM and expansion slots, drive interfaces, integrated peripherals, etc. Rilak (talk) 11:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
To expand and explain all different variants for home users and professional users would perhaps expand the text too much in my mind. If we are looking at the PC (personal computer) there are different variant of motherboard intended or marketed for different use, but there is no real distinction between them. There are naturally a whole world of servers and work station computers beyond blade servers. In our datacenter we haven't yet come up to 50% in blade servers, most are still rack mounted and some stand alone servers, although we have moved off the massive SPARC and Alpha powered systems running VMS or Unix, but that was as recent as two years ago. A stand alone Sun server could easily be four times as big as a standard refrigerator and hit you with a price tag of over $1.000.000 US (at the time of our purchase), and we had a few of those... Simplifying and saying they are all blade servers isn't true. And the motherboard of those are not quite like a standard pc although it is not near the really big main frames. claiming that Xeon processors are more stable than others isn't either correct, however used with ECC (error checking and correcting) memory they are less prone to produce erata as a result, but all servers usually have ECC memory, regardless of the system is running on AMD Opteron, SUN UltraSPARC, DEC Alpha, IBM Power, HP PA-RISC, Intel Itanium etc. And dont forget that other architectures than the x86 that was Intel's architecture for the 8086, 80286, 386, 486, Pentium etc and the more recent AMD EM64T 64 bit extension(named x64 by Microsoft) that is used for the Intel Xeon is more prone to stall than some of the other processors, even though more modern processors like the 486 and later can handle and mask interrupts better. If we try to generalize about PC computers as used for home for surfing or gaming, or simpler workstations or small stand alone servers or rack mounted servers they are not so very different and can be categorized after use, ports (I/O communication) and chipsets. I could claim that 95% of all home users would not have any use for any peripheral except a TV card for HTPC use. SCSI is rapidly losing ground with IEEE1394 connections and fast SATA drives. The integrated sound with 7.1 channels and the onboard graphics is of such quality that they can handle most typical work loads for a home pc except the latest games. Scaling HD material can actually be better on some built in graphics solutions from certain vendors than some low end peripheral graphics cards. The questi
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on remains; should we describe and cover all uses, from small laptops over pc and work stations up to main frames as that is a big scope and somewhat fluid in definite terms or should we generalize to keep the text short and concise? Henrik Robeck (talk) 21:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- I do not think that there is a need to discuss non-PC platforms in this article. Most non-PC platforms do not refer to their primary logic board(s) as motherboards and it would be inappropriate for us to refer to them as such. Doing so because we say it fits the definition of motherboard would be synthesis, which is strictly forbidden. Rilak (talk) 03:
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The 4th edition of Modern Operating Systems, Prentice-Hall, a reliable source on operating systems and computer systems, by Andy Tanenbaum and Herbert Bos has on page 34 of chapter 1:
"Every PC contains a parentboard (formerly called a motherboard before political correctness hit the computer industry)."
This request is to include the "parentboard" in the first sentence of the article, as:
"A motherboard (sometimes alternatively known as the mainboard, parentboard, system board, planar board or logic board,[1] or colloquially, a mobo)" 84.245.31.67 (talk) 22:09, 9 December 2015 (UTC)