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*The article was first written by a Swedish IP editor. The first version to use the word ''debut''/''début'' was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=next&oldid=892777 this one from May 2003], edited by an American user, TUF-KAT, who used no accent. As far as I can tell, the accent was introduced by TGilmour [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=next&oldid=430282148 in May 2011.] TGilmour was very active on Pink Floyd topics as well as other music articles but was blocked for using multiple accounts. In November 2011 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=460653396&oldid=459948305 the accent was removed] by a drive-by IP editor. After a lot of work by {{u|Yeepsi}} the article was promoted (by me) to GA in December 2012 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&oldid=529941596 with no accent]. Then in February 2014 {{u|Radiopathy}} expressly [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=595604089&oldid=595476772 added the accent.] In December 2014, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=next&oldid=635380383 the accent was removed] by an IP from Denmark. This was reverted within a few hours by me. So finally we get to February 2015 and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=next&oldid=646753177 the accent removal] which started this discussion. <br>Personally, I like the accent as it fits with the psychedelic 1960s aspect of the album. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 18:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC) |
*The article was first written by a Swedish IP editor. The first version to use the word ''debut''/''début'' was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=next&oldid=892777 this one from May 2003], edited by an American user, TUF-KAT, who used no accent. As far as I can tell, the accent was introduced by TGilmour [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=next&oldid=430282148 in May 2011.] TGilmour was very active on Pink Floyd topics as well as other music articles but was blocked for using multiple accounts. In November 2011 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=460653396&oldid=459948305 the accent was removed] by a drive-by IP editor. After a lot of work by {{u|Yeepsi}} the article was promoted (by me) to GA in December 2012 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&oldid=529941596 with no accent]. Then in February 2014 {{u|Radiopathy}} expressly [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=595604089&oldid=595476772 added the accent.] In December 2014, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=next&oldid=635380383 the accent was removed] by an IP from Denmark. This was reverted within a few hours by me. So finally we get to February 2015 and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Piper_at_the_Gates_of_Dawn&diff=next&oldid=646753177 the accent removal] which started this discussion. <br>Personally, I like the accent as it fits with the psychedelic 1960s aspect of the album. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 18:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC) |
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::As always, our personal likes or dislikes are not relevant on Wikipedia. [[Special:Contributions/2606:6000:610A:9000:9DF6:CC8D:592B:1AE|2606:6000:610A:9000:9DF6:CC8D:592B:1AE]] ([[User talk:2606:6000:610A:9000:9DF6:CC8D:592B:1AE|talk]]) 16:13, 25 January 2016 (UTC) |
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Use of the accent in the word debut.
I noticed some time ago that the word debut in this article is different from the ones in most other debut album articles; this one had an accent, so it read "début".
I do not agree with the such spelling, and as advised, I decided to take it here and reach a consensus. My opinion is that this article should have the standard spelling, that, as stated by the Oxford Dictionary and Cambridge Dictionary and used in both British and American spelling is "debut". I changed it and the user User:Binksternet disagreed with my change, and reverted it, so I try to reach a consensus here.
Users in favor of the change so far using the word "debut" -- WITHOUT the accent mark are:
- User: 104.173.225.10 -- (1) based on maintaining consistency across English Wikipedia (2) an accent mark (according to the dictionary) is there to show you how to pronounce a word -- so it's not needed as many other French words are co-opted by English speakers like "entreprenuer" etc. (3) "debut" is a French word but The Piper at the Gates of Dawn is "by the English rock band Pink Floyd". The majority of English speakers in the U.K. know how to pronounce the word.
Users that are against the change so far in favor of using "début" -- WITH the accent mark are:
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Puertagustavo99 (talk) 03:19, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- The article was first written by a Swedish IP editor. The first version to use the word debut/début was this one from May 2003, edited by an American user, TUF-KAT, who used no accent. As far as I can tell, the accent was introduced by TGilmour in May 2011. TGilmour was very active on Pink Floyd topics as well as other music articles but was blocked for using multiple accounts. In November 2011 the accent was removed by a drive-by IP editor. After a lot of work by Yeepsi the article was promoted (by me) to GA in December 2012 with no accent. Then in February 2014 Radiopathy expressly added the accent. In December 2014, the accent was removed by an IP from Denmark. This was reverted within a few hours by me. So finally we get to February 2015 and the accent removal which started this discussion.
Personally, I like the accent as it fits with the psychedelic 1960s aspect of the album. Binksternet (talk) 18:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- As always, our personal likes or dislikes are not relevant on Wikipedia. 2606:6000:610A:9000:9DF6:CC8D:592B:1AE (talk) 16:13, 25 January 2016 (UTC)