Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angela Lee (2nd nomination)

Angela Lee

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Non-notable MMA fighter - does not meet WP:NMMA. The Db-repost was declined as the article was deemed to be completely different yet the same article was very recently deleted by Db-repost - and posted again. I believe the deletion was correct as the reasons for the original AfD deletion remain unchanged. The subject has had no top tier fights. Peter Rehse (talk) 12:19, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 12:19, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Angela Lee has been subject of multiple independent articles from national or international media and clearly meets the notability criteria as per WP:MMABIO. It's possible that previous versions of this page were not made properly, but the current version which I made contains references to multiple articles about Angela Lee in reputable, reliable, significant news sources such as Bloomberg, The Canadian Press, The Straits Times, The Daily Mirror, The Independent etc. I don't think you could find a clearer case of an MMA fighter meeting WP:MMABIO in terms of independent press coverage. Sadoka74 (talk) 23:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Agree with Sadoka74. I created the article after its first deletion with similar reasons and see it's back up, which I support. I do understand Angela Lee does not meet all notability guidelines, but then again, I respectfully disagree with those in this case, seeing how many respectable media outlets write about her. Lotte Belice (talk) 11:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Singapore-related deletion discussions. Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

• Delete The criteria for MMA fighters is at WP:NMMA and it's clear she does not meet that. The sources given in the article all amount to routine sports coverage--results and promotion of upcoming fights. She does not have the significant independent coverage needed to meet the GNG.Mdtemp (talk) 14:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry I don't understand your point here at all. 90% of the references are either features exclusively on her or exclusive interviews with her. If multiple interviews and features in major international newspapers and media outlets isn't significant independent coverage than what is?Sadoka74 (talk) 14:49, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Pre and post fight interviews are routine coverage and/or promotional so they're considered routine coverage. Fighting for a second tier MMA organization, even for its title, is not considered to show notability.Mdtemp (talk) 14:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

so interviews pre and post fight don't count, but interviews that take place when she hasn't got a fight booked do? Please refer me to the place in WP:NMMA where it states this as I must have missed it.Sadoka74 (talk) 14:58, 12 May 2016 (UTC)