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:::{{nao}} I count [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720289047&oldid=720281739 one], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720316858&oldid=720306497 two], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720330133&oldid=720327387 three], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720335100&oldid=720333600 four], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720341143&oldid=720341101 five], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720386237&oldid=720385032 six] reverts in the past 24 hours. [[WP:3RR]] doesn't care what your intentions are when reverting, unless it's clear vandalism. [[User:Clpo13|clpo13]]<sub>([[User_talk:Clpo13|talk]])</sub> 16:38, 15 May 2016 (UTC) |
:::{{nao}} I count [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720289047&oldid=720281739 one], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720316858&oldid=720306497 two], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720330133&oldid=720327387 three], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720335100&oldid=720333600 four], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720341143&oldid=720341101 five], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720386237&oldid=720385032 six] reverts in the past 24 hours. [[WP:3RR]] doesn't care what your intentions are when reverting, unless it's clear vandalism. [[User:Clpo13|clpo13]]<sub>([[User_talk:Clpo13|talk]])</sub> 16:38, 15 May 2016 (UTC) |
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::::{{yo|Clpo13}} your poorly thought out comment illustrates the point of what happens when people jump to blatantly misrepresenting edits, or maybe you just really didn't review the edits you are claiming to review? |
::::{{yo|Clpo13}} your poorly thought out comment illustrates the point of what happens when people jump to blatantly misrepresenting edits, or maybe you just really didn't review the edits you are claiming to review? |
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::::For instance [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720341143&oldid=720341101 this diff] is a reversion of clear IP vandalism, insertion of unsourced content with an intention of damaging wikipedia by violating [[WP:BLP]]. Since it has no source, I was '''obligated under policy''' to remove it per [[WP:BLP|"Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion."]]. [[User:Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz|Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz]] ([[User talk:Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz#top|talk]]) 16:43, 15 May 2016 (UTC) |
::::For instance [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016&diff=720341143&oldid=720341101 this diff that you list as "five"] is a reversion of clear IP vandalism, insertion of unsourced content with an intention of damaging wikipedia by violating [[WP:BLP]]. Since it has no source, I was '''obligated under policy''' to remove it per [[WP:BLP|"Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion."]]. [[User:Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz|Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz]] ([[User talk:Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz#top|talk]]) 16:43, 15 May 2016 (UTC) |
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- ah ha! I was not aware of such sock puppetry. I will review the history of the article and any relevant sources about the group. Thanks for letting me know about that. DaltonCastle (talk) 19:08, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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Would you please fill them out more accurately? It's bothersome for me to do it for you. Parsley Man (talk) 05:16, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
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Specifics that the blocking administrator has failed to consider:
- - much of the "evidence" presented by the tendentious editors is false. For instance, they claim a "revert" in the past from much earlier in the month, which was a result of diligent care to not allow disruptive behavior by a throwaway sockpuppet/SPA with only two edits.
- - The claim that they made any attempt at dispute resolution is 100% false. Neither LM2000 nor VQuakr participated in the talk page until I pointed out that they had not, and I am the one who has created an RFC to attempt to resolve the issue of the sourcing matter.
- - They conflated edits from multiple days and further conflated edits having nothing to do with the content that were performed in consistency with Wikipedia policy regarding requiring sourcing (in this diff the link "http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/oreilly-donald-trump-president-fox-news_n_7603202.html" is a bad link to a nonexistent article).
In sum total, per the relevant policy:
- The "three revert rule" was not, in fact, violated.
- There is no "disruption" occurring or, if it has, I am not the source as I am the only one involved here who has actually pursued appropriate dispute resolution steps such as talk page participation and WP:RFC requesting in a timely manner.
- Therefore, per the policy that blocks should NOT be punitive and the policy that blocks should only be used when there is an active issue, the block was improperly placed.
- The duration of the block, at 72 hours, is also extreme and inappropriate.
Please process this and remove the inappropriate block. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 16:19, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- Sux to be u bro. BBB23 is one of the worst admins on wikipedia, but good luck finding one of them who's not just a rubber stamp jockey for abusive longtime editors. I suspect most of them never even read or check the "evidence". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.121.31 (talk) 16:26, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- Ouch. Well all I can do is wait and hope that someone out there actually looks at the evidence, because I have done nothing wrong and violated no policies. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 16:29, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- (Non-administrator comment) I count one, two, three, four, five, six reverts in the past 24 hours. WP:3RR doesn't care what your intentions are when reverting, unless it's clear vandalism. clpo13(talk) 16:38, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Clpo13: your poorly thought out comment illustrates the point of what happens when people jump to blatantly misrepresenting edits, or maybe you just really didn't review the edits you are claiming to review?
- For instance this diff that you list as "five" is a reversion of clear IP vandalism, insertion of unsourced content with an intention of damaging wikipedia by violating WP:BLP. Since it has no source, I was obligated under policy to remove it per "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.". Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 16:43, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- (Non-administrator comment) I count one, two, three, four, five, six reverts in the past 24 hours. WP:3RR doesn't care what your intentions are when reverting, unless it's clear vandalism. clpo13(talk) 16:38, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- Ouch. Well all I can do is wait and hope that someone out there actually looks at the evidence, because I have done nothing wrong and violated no policies. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 16:29, 15 May 2016 (UTC)