Talk:Zodiac

Is it what is seems?

Well it seems that all those who added and shared their knowledge about Zodiac and Zodiac signs had no Idea why they start at 21,22 0r 23 rd of each month. seeing Vernal Equinox (Now rouz) even then never mentioning the Persian calendar system.

All others " The Babylonians, Chaldeans, Romans, Greeks nor Chinese nor Arabs had a Solar based calander. My sign is Balance Mehr or Mizaan starts from 1st to 30th and so on. Not mentioning the contribution of Persians in setting The New year starting point with Vernal Equinox from 2575 years ago till to day, is simply too much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.247.140.231 (talk) 06:50, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Should the zodiac even be part of wikipedia? Is there even one reliable source on the subject? You tell me. Stuffed tiger (talk) 17:27, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Did you read the "References" section? Some of the sources are highly reliable. It's common knowledge that the zodiac is a concept used by both astronomy and astrology. Even if you think astrology is useless, it has been a significant cultural phenomenon for thousands of years, and until roughly the time of Isaac Newton, a driving force in the advance of astronomy.Jc3s5h (talk) 17:34, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Even if I took your position, which I don't, should mythology, spiritual knowledge, fiction, fantasy, games, TV, metaphysics, esoteric knowledge, religion, among many others be part of wikipedia by that token? What is a reliable source by your definition, something that can trace back where the zodiac originated, if so we have several. Taien101 (talk)

Of course this page should be here - the banner above shows this subject to be a vital article in science. But the page content is very poor. I have just joined Wikipedia specifically to improve the unsourced content that previously appeared in the "modern astronomy" section, but really the whole page is a bit of a mess. Does the page really need what looks like a big astrology advert that appears top-right of the article? Unicorndh (talk) 10:28, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

The article begins "The western zodiac is centered upon the ecliptic, the apparent path of the Sun across the celestial sphere over the course of the year"- but you make no other mention of another zodiac. This is astronomy and I think there is only one zodiac. The signs are mere labels and all are given equal space on the ecliptic. chami 14:31, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Ophiuchus?

The fact that Ophiuchus is in the main table is absurd. The concept of that sign started as recently as 1970 with Stephen Schmidt, and is used by almost nobody. The table should reflect the standard Zodiac dates used by millions, not some foolishness that leaves Scorpio covering one measly week of the year. At best, it should be a footnote with Cetus.108.161.124.204 (talk) 13:06, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

The table demonstrates the relationship between zodiac signs, as a way of roughly locating the position of the Sun along the ecliptic, and the position of the sun in currently recognized constellations. Whether astrologers think there is any significance of the sun or other solar system bodies being in the constellation Ophiuchus is not the subject of the table.

Perhaps the table could be rearranged so that the name and symbol for Ophiuchus do not appear under the columns of the table labeled "Sign", so that it is more clear that hardly anyone, whether astrologer or astronomer, regards Ophiuchus as a sign. Jc3s5h (talk) 15:15, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Is there a reason why the unicode symbol for Ophiuchus (HTML: ⛎) is not present anywhere on the page ? KirkeCypris (talk) 21:33, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

That would most certainly be appropriate on the article dedicated to Ophiuchus, but not here besides the mention it has already.Volpane (talk) 17:38, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Ophiuchus, what is 13 signs? Megacahyanikai (talk) 23:24, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Gemini?

What your zodiac Gemini? Megacahyanikai (talk) 23:24, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

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Scorpio w/ Ophiuchus - Correspondence

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I think this also corresponds to Astrological sign.Rip Van Winkle, Humpty Dumpty and Frankenstein's Monster (talk) 18:23, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

I saw Antares for 7 days and Rasalhague for 18. It looks like a subset of Scorpio Tropical/Sidereal considering IAU Antares & Rasalhague.

I was trying to correspond Ophiuchus. I had heard a new planet was found or something. I This is what I came up with:

Constellation			Days	Zodiac
IAU	Sign			IAU	Tropical	Sidereal
	Tropical	Sidereal
Antares	Scorpio		7	23 November  − 29 November	24 October  − 30 October	16 November − 22 November
Rasalhague			18	30 November − 17 December	31 October − 17 November	23 November − 10 December
			5		18 November − 22 November	11 December − 15 December

It could probably use a little cleaning up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.108.161.151 (talk) 00:28, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

O.k. Thanks. 2604:2000:E94B:5C00:B10D:2F2A:49BC:39DC (talk) 12:17, 25 November 2016 (UTC) Rip Van Winkle, Humpty Dumpty and Frankenstein's Monster (talk) 12:44, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Was I replying to myself?

Out of curiosity? Are there any being that can match any of the constellations to the actual zodiac symbols from any regions of the planet without having to torture them to do so?

I was drawing similarities between the symbols, like mirror images or reflections or repeating or crossing over on itself or directional. However, when I looked at simple drawing, I noticed they were different. Then, when I looked at imagines that are supposed to be from space, they looked totally different.

In my "spare time", I was hoping to rework the unit circle or oblique with this addition. However, it won't be as pretty. I noticed this with phong shading and the Archimedean spiral. I thought the shading looked funny, so I tweeked it. I also had to use a +1 or -1 one before or after the main formula to get the spiral to render properly in php. I was not sure if it was the function or the math. Also, working on Chinese Zodiac which I think corresponds to Lunar Year. And, maybe the charts at some point.