Talk:Vivegam

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Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2017

remove name kabilan vairamuthu from screenplay and writter, as he only a assistant for screenplay. Chandruaust (talk) 08:34, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 12:27, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2017

Vivegam in English is INTELLIGENCE INTELLIGENCE is far better than PRUDENCE Prasath sundar (talk) 23:02, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sakura Cartelet ^Talk 00:08, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Can you please mention where this is to be done, right now your request doesn't have enough information to be actionable. Sakura Cartelet ^Talk 00:09, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Box office amount changed why Sharathsandhya1991 (talk) 03:07, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Yesterday 60.67cr today 50 cr whatbis all about Sharathsandhya1991 (talk) 03:08, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes.. correct.. You put the wrong information.. please correct it in box office.. Rskarthick 15 (talk) 09:30, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

It's false... Box-office...

Vivegam collects 100cr in three days... Day 1 - 33.08 cr Day 2 - 66 cr Day 3 - 100 cr.. So , pls change according to true data... Rskarthick 15 (talk) 05:06, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Vivegam collects 100cr in three days... Day 1 - 33.08 cr Day 2 - 66 cr Day 3 - 100 cr.. So , pls change according to true data... Movie already reached 100cr in 3 days. Plz update the box office figure immediately.. Thankx Mhdshrz (talk) 14:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Currently 130 crs Dawoodmds (talk) 14:57, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Change box office from 68crs to 130crs Dawoodmds (talk) 17:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Movie grossed already 140cr worldwide just change it Mhdshrz (talk) 18:04, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Worldwide gross 150cr just change it dont update false.. Mhdshrz (talk) 03:59, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;<http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html>Mpmnoir (talk) 13:48, 7 September 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpmnoir (talk • contribs) 13:42, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Please update the box office gross Kumaraguru007 (talk) 16:40, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2017

Mhdshrz (talk) 05:23, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — IVORK _Discuss 05:32, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

In box office , it is stated that it was collected only 50 crores.. That information is wrong.. It collected around 100 crores in 3 days... I have evidences... Rskarthick 15 (talk) 09:28, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 20:10, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;<http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html>Mpmnoir (talk) 13:49, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2017

Want to edit the Box Office field. Value is 50cr. But now the profits went up to 85cr. Jayak914 (talk) 20:01, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 20:10, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2017

Vivegam in English change the word "prudence" as " intelligence" Prasath sundar (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — IVORK _Discuss 14:14, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2017

Vivegam Box Office Collections now is 106 Cr. But here it is still 77cr.Kindly change it to 106cr. Jayak914 (talk) 21:31, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 22:36, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Change the collection

Hey Why cant u change the box Office collection , IT has Vivegam has Grossed more than 120 crores! Soloman Rajkumar (talk) 01:55, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Helooo! This is not right ! Dont give wrong information to people .. this movie collection has been more than 120crores proven! Soloman Rajkumar (talk) 05:24, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2017

The Box Office Of Vivegam Officially declared by India today is 152 crores ..... So pls change it.... Sanjesh Manivel (talk) 13:55, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:11, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;<http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html>

Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2017

AT10 05:41, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

VIVEGAM HAS COLLECTED 160CR WORLDWIDE PLEASE CHANGE IN THE WIKI

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 05:48, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;<http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html> Mpmnoir (talk) 13:45, 7 September 2017 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpmnoir (talk • contribs) 13:40, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 September 2017

Silambarasant (talk) 18:58, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:31, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 September 2017

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html Silambarasant (talk) 19:03, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: There is no reason to continually update box office figures due to the questionable reliability of Indian box office reports. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force for more about box office figure reliability Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:34, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Vivegam

What is this? Fake box office collections has been updated for Vivegam, that sucks... Who is the dickhead updated this? Most of the medias have reported the movie has grossed 150 crores and above, this moron is still stuck with 77 cr figure.. Gskrocks (talk) 09:26, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2017

Vivegam has done very good business. It crossed 160 crores and it may cross 200 crores. It's budget is 100 crores but it already crossed the 150 crore. Earning around 50 crores and is still going strong. Even if the review of some of critics are not that good. But still Ajit's fan and also normal people loved the movie. This movie's special effect is of international standard. It has got holly wood like action sequence and is very good thriller. Jgnadar1978 (talk) 11:03, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 12:10, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

It Has Even Grossed About 165 Crores® Sanjesh Manivel (talk) 13:43, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

BT Online | New Delhi, Wednesday, September 13, 2017 | 12:10 IST Ajith Kumar starrer, Vivegam, seems unstoppable at the box office. Up till Sunday, Vivegam collected Rs 160 crore worldwide. After breaking the records of Baahubali and Kabali, Vivegam is expected to enter the Rs 200 crore club in coming days. Reference - Business Times Sanjesh Manivel (talk) 13:47, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

What taking so long for that moron to update the correct collections of Vivegam???? Gskrocks (talk) 15:37, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Just in case replying to your rude and insulting question in a calm manner might have a ghost of chance of increasing understanding, @Gskrocks:, the fundamental answer to your question is that the box office grosses of Vivegam, and of Indian cinema in general are unimportant and unverifiable. As our guidance on Indian cinema states: ...all Indian film financial details are based on trade estimates and should not be taken as gospel. We realize that enthusiasm for Indian films is vital to the encyclopedia but when that enthusiasm manifests as competition between fans over which film has earned more it does not help. Calling other editors "morons" is even less likely to help and often leads to being blocked. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:09, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2017

Please allow me to change the the genre and the total gross of the film worldwide. 103.94.137.148 (talk) 18:06, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 18:18, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2017

Josewiki27 (talk) 09:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC) Please update current box office collection of vivegam movie

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:18, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

@Josewiki27: If you want to see something changed, typically editors bring references in the form of links to established news sites that support the info. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:37, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2017

Change Box office from 77cr to 150Cr. Jayak914 (talk) 14:35, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 14:44, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Ramesh Bala BO tracker is not credible

It is known fact that So called Box office Tracker Ramesh bala Often Provides Inflated and Wrong Box Office Figures. you can find Many instances where he made Tweets With BO Numbers contradicting his own old Tweets Example - For the movie Lingaa He Tweeted 1st Day Gross is 17 Cr "NEW RECORD " then when The Ajith 's Movie Vedalam came he tweeted that VEDALAM 1st day gross is 15cr and said its the Best Of all time!! there are many examples like this.

and there are articles of about his inflated Fake Numbers by International Business Times

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/yennai-arindhaal-100-crore-box-office-collection-report-fake-625283 <-- Article on his Fake Figures on 2015 Ajith 's Movie Yennai Arindhal http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vivegam-total-worldwide-box-office-collection-has-ajiths-film-crossed-rs-100-crore-mark-figures-740165 <--- Article on his Inflated Figures on Ajith 's Movie Vivegam http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/the-murky-world-of-box-office-figures/article7903783.ece <-- Article about inflated Numbers by Credible Tracker Sreedhar Pillai .

So You can easily conclude that Ramesh bala linked Media Sources are just not credible and also he is Biased to Ajith's Movies To give more proof why he is Biased here check out these SS of his tweets https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0Ss2zlUAAETcjt.jpg

So don't consider this guy's SOURCES/Numbers , we should wait for other transparent Sources or just Remove that Column.Instead of providing wrong Information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OthaDAW (talk • contribs) 08:15, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2017

OthaDAW (talk) 18:41, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=4137&cid=6&fid=5717

Andhraboxoffice is better Reliable source than Ramesh bala Linked Media Sources

change the Box office numbers to 112cr

Not done: Per Indian cinema task force guidelines, this is not considered a reliable source for box office figures. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:22, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Gross Update - Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2017

http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=4137&cid=6&fid=5717 Change the Gross to 112 cr because its close to the fact , the movie Flopped and andhraboxoffice is widely considered credible and active for 7+ years. the above section explains why the rameshbala numbers are inflated and fake.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vivegam-total-worldwide-box-office-collection-has-ajiths-film-crossed-rs-100-crore-mark-figures-740165 many Media also uses Andhraboxoffice as their Source. its just that People Like rameshbala misusing and posting some random figures as fast as possible , so these National Media sites just use them to report the Figures Blindly . unlike where Andhraboxoffice gives in - depth report of all south movies. they BoxofficeMojo of South India. so change the figures as soon as possible guys .

BigNews Morgans (talk) 12:04, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: Per Indian cinema task force guidelines, this is not considered a reliable source for box office figures. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:22, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

False

Plz delete the content that mentioned losses to distributors.. Shareez arooz (talk) 19:32, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

It's cited, so it meets verifiability policy. DMacks (talk) 20:28, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Vivegam boxofuffice 110 crLddhore(50 days)-ibtimes...

Vivegam boxoffice collection:Ajith starrer complets 50 days in theatres|13-oct-2017|ibtimes|the worldwide gross is said to be over 110 crore KollyBoxofficeEagleEye (talk) 03:53, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

@KollyBoxofficeEagleEye: Is the above a request of some kind? What changes are you proposing, and where are the references that support the changes you are proposing? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:13, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Ibtimes article dated 28-oct 2017 says the lifetime boxoffice collection of vivegam as Rs.112 crore.Please change the 160 crore collection to 112 crore. EAGLE EYE boxoffice analayser (talk) 08:57, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Please change 160 crore to 112 crore. EAGLE EYE boxoffice analayser (talk) 04:29, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

@EAGLE EYE boxoffice analayser: Again, I don't see that you've brought any reference to this discussion, and I'm confused why I'm talking to two accounts that are apparently yours, and neither account can figure out how to bring a URL to this page. Did you open up one of these accounts by mistake? Should we shut one of them down for you? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:32, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2017

Vinoj jayanth (talk) 07:14, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

vivegam box office collection is 160 crore the sources given below http://www.businesstoday.in/lifestyle/off-track/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajiths-movie-collects-rs-160-crore-eyes-rs-200-crore-worldwide/story/260179.html http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajith-kumar-kajal-aggarwal/1/1044692.html</ref>

@Vinoj jayanth we cannot change it.see this reliable source and also the newly dated article it has clearly mentioned life time final collection as 112 crore. http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajith-starrer-grosses-rs-112-crore-its-lifetime-747310 whereas the above sources you are provided are old dated articles just speculated collections and does not mention the word "lifetime" which means final collections what a movie earns at the end of the day. hope you have understood. thank youBothiman (talk) 10:08, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

I think IBT may have to be disregarded in this particular instance. While it is considered to be a reliable source, this particular article attributes its claim to Andhra Box Office, a blog that is considered to be unreliable at WP:ICTF FAQ. Just my two cents. King Prithviraj II (talk) 14:39, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

@King Prithviraj II NOT only IBT even yahoo in late 2017 have declared vivegam as one of the biggest flops of 2017 along with singam 3 and spyder see this https://in.style.yahoo.com/singham-3-spyder-vivegam-biggest-095252597.html . Bothiman (talk) 10:07, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

The source you provided mentions it as 122 crore, which is none of the above figures. (FYI its not Yahoo, its Bollywood Life filtered through Yahoo, which is not considered reliable for box-office figures.) Most media outlets report it as 160, see India Today, Business Today and Rediff, among others. Most of them are quoting trade analysts Ramesh Bala or Sumit Kadel, who are generally considered reliable. Lastly since all these figures are nothing but estimates, then enter both figures as a range if reliable sources other than those quoting primary figures or unreliable sources mention this. No reason to discount the above mentioned ones. King Prithviraj II (talk) 10:54, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

@King Prithviraj II if we add that 160 crore from that old dated article even so if it is reliable source. the claims of mine were from a newly dated article as of november end even though it is from andhra box office and bollywood life shared reliable sources ib times and yahoo. the funny part even yahoo said this film collected 160 crore in some old dated article and they switched on to 122 crore after they came to know the film under performed. the date also matters its better we just stick on to newly dated IBTimes eventhough share it from andhra box office. since its tamil and also a telugu dubbed film andhra box office is one of the good trackers of south movies nowadays. thank you Bothiman (talk) 11:46, 28 December 2017 (UTC)