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:I agree with you, Justin, but I do think that we can have an overview of the plot in the lede without revealing the one detail of the sheriff's suicide. I think that one detail can be left out. Just my opinion, of course. ---<b style="font-family: Georgia;">[[User:TheOldJacobite|<span style="color:#009900">The Old Jacobite</span>]]</b><i style="font-family: Courier New;"><sub>[[User talk:TheOldJacobite|<span style="color:#006600">The '45</span>]]</sub></i> 23:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
:I agree with you, Justin, but I do think that we can have an overview of the plot in the lede without revealing the one detail of the sheriff's suicide. I think that one detail can be left out. Just my opinion, of course. ---<b style="font-family: Georgia;">[[User:TheOldJacobite|<span style="color:#009900">The Old Jacobite</span>]]</b><i style="font-family: Courier New;"><sub>[[User talk:TheOldJacobite|<span style="color:#006600">The '45</span>]]</sub></i> 23:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
::Sure, that's fine--I have no problem with some different ''wording'' but the film is not just ''about'' the billboards: it's is fundamentally about the changes in character that happen as this stunt unravels, a man reassesses his life, the woman who took action is harassed, etc. Far, far too many film articles here are in the form I mentioned above with only a dozen words given to the plot. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
::Sure, that's fine--I have no problem with some different ''wording'' but the film is not just ''about'' the billboards: it's is fundamentally about the changes in character that happen as this stunt unravels, a man reassesses his life, the woman who took action is harassed, etc. Far, far too many film articles here are in the form I mentioned above with only a dozen words given to the plot. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
:I agree that WP cannot exclude content on the basis of spoilers. But for a film or a book, I expect those spoilers to be safely quarantined in the "Plot" section. I can reasonably expect to get a non-spoiling synopsis from the summary paragraph, or non-spoiling information (where possible) about the production or cultural impact. For that reason, I think the spoiler should be kept out of the opening paragraph. The same information can continue to live under "plot". [[Special:Contributions/24.23.243.9|24.23.243.9]] ([[User talk:24.23.243.9|talk]]) 21:56, 14 January 2018 (UTC)


I completely and totally disagree with this. It's a huge spoiler for the movie, containing events that take place well into the second half, and that aren't mentioned in any of the promotional material. It's honestly just a dick move to keep putting it back. When people go to look at the opening paragraph they want to know the PREMISE, not the entire plot. People shouldn't have to be spoiled on this movie because of this Justin guy's weird attitude about this. [[Special:Contributions/82.10.113.92|82.10.113.92]] ([[User talk:82.10.113.92|talk]]) 16:37, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
I completely and totally disagree with this. It's a huge spoiler for the movie, containing events that take place well into the second half, and that aren't mentioned in any of the promotional material. It's honestly just a dick move to keep putting it back. When people go to look at the opening paragraph they want to know the PREMISE, not the entire plot. People shouldn't have to be spoiled on this movie because of this Justin guy's weird attitude about this. [[Special:Contributions/82.10.113.92|82.10.113.92]] ([[User talk:82.10.113.92|talk]]) 16:37, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

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Split out accolades

As awards season goes on, it's become clear that this film is one of the major contenders, and is thus subject to be listed for more nominations/wins. As the accolades section is already taking up a substantial portion of the article, might it be wise to just split it off at this point?--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 05:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed Anna (talk) 15:38, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To the cascading IP addresses reverting due to "spoilers"

Please read WP:LEAD and WP:SPOILER. The function of the lead is to give an overview of the article. Since the bulk of many film pages is the plot (and it's always a substantial portion), it is not acceptable to say, "x is a 2017 movie about a man with a truck." You have to give an overview of the plot, not the most barebones premise conceivable. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 22:42, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you, Justin, but I do think that we can have an overview of the plot in the lede without revealing the one detail of the sheriff's suicide. I think that one detail can be left out. Just my opinion, of course. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 23:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, that's fine--I have no problem with some different wording but the film is not just about the billboards: it's is fundamentally about the changes in character that happen as this stunt unravels, a man reassesses his life, the woman who took action is harassed, etc. Far, far too many film articles here are in the form I mentioned above with only a dozen words given to the plot. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 00:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that WP cannot exclude content on the basis of spoilers. But for a film or a book, I expect those spoilers to be safely quarantined in the "Plot" section. I can reasonably expect to get a non-spoiling synopsis from the summary paragraph, or non-spoiling information (where possible) about the production or cultural impact. For that reason, I think the spoiler should be kept out of the opening paragraph. The same information can continue to live under "plot". 24.23.243.9 (talk) 21:56, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I completely and totally disagree with this. It's a huge spoiler for the movie, containing events that take place well into the second half, and that aren't mentioned in any of the promotional material. It's honestly just a dick move to keep putting it back. When people go to look at the opening paragraph they want to know the PREMISE, not the entire plot. People shouldn't have to be spoiled on this movie because of this Justin guy's weird attitude about this. 82.10.113.92 (talk) 16:37, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read WP:SPOILERS or WP:LEAD? Do you understand that Wikipedia is not spoiler-free but presents encyclopedic information? ―Justin (koavf)TCM 17:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]