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Legal charges laid out against accused can be sourced and ennumerated, as can outcomes outcommes of those charges. Withe highly publicized crimes, we do not conceal the charges.E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:46, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No of victims

WHy is this a controversial toppic?

Source 1:

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/crime/how-100-men-were-able-to-prey-on-one-vulnerable-halifax-schoolgirl-for-two-years-1-7969702

>15 MEN have been jailed for a total of 160 years for the horrific sexual abuse of a vulnerable schoolgirl from Halifax.

1 victim

Source 2:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-36559092

Read carefully now;

Prosecutors praised the "immense courage and bravery" of the two victims who gave evidence against the men.

Note that the two victims are one who was a victim of the gang;

>The gang of men abused a young girl in Halifax and Bradford between 2009 and 2011, the Crown Prosecution (CPS) said.

and the second victim was only a victim from one man, not the gang themselves

>Another victim was also sexually assaulted by one of the gang members.

Source 3:

https://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/chances-missed-protect-vulnerable-girl-12224220

>The case came to light earlier this year when 15 men were convicted of grooming and sexually abusing the child for several years in Halifax and Bradford.

one victim

Source 4:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vile-sex-gang-caged-168-8219903

>The men allegedly abused a young girl in Halifax and Bradford between 2009 and 2011. Another victim was also sexually assaulted by one of the gang members.

Also one victim of the gang, a seperate victim was abused by an individual

Source 5:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-31141167

>The offences are alleged to have been committed between 2006 and 2011 and largely relate to one girl who was under 16 at the time.

The other sources say the same thing

Why is this article trying to spin a narrative?? there was one victim of the gang, not two. The article is also copy-pasted largely from articles and needs rewriting to comply with copyright rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomanskiRUS (talk • contribs) 09:54, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It’s trying to spin a narrative I agree with that, the number of victims of the gang is one. Singular. In all of the sources the charges against the “gang” relate to a single girl. Just because one member of the “gang” abused another individual separately doesn’t mean that the gang also abused that individual when they didn’t. The article is just plain wrong.Americatcp (talk) 10:40, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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			::It’s trying to spin a narrative I agree with that, the number of victims of the gang is one. Singular. In all of the sources the charges against the “gang” relate to a single girl. Just because one member of the “gang” abused another individual separately doesn’t mean that the gang also abused that individual when they didn’t. The article is just plain wrong.[[User:Americatcp\|Americatcp]] ([[User talk:Americatcp\|talk]]) 10:40, 8 February 2018 (UTC)