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:I said a source that says this program is ''exclusively'' for DJing (whatever it means). This program can be used for any audio mixing project. |
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⚫ | ::Technically, you ''could'' use Mixxx for [[audio mixing (recorded music)]] but you'd have a hard time doing that because that is not what it is designed for. [[Audio mixing (recorded music)]] is done with [[digital audio workstation]] software, not DJ software. I removed the confusing link to [[audio mixing (recorded music)]].—[[User:AThing|a thing]] 23:45, 1 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:Also, {{tq|"Audio mixing is not an ideal wikilink"}} is not an excuse for subverting factual accuracy. It is analogous to saying "X is a tomato product, but I don't like Wikipedia's tomato article, so I write 'it is potato product' instead." |
:Also, {{tq|"Audio mixing is not an ideal wikilink"}} is not an excuse for subverting factual accuracy. It is analogous to saying "X is a tomato product, but I don't like Wikipedia's tomato article, so I write 'it is potato product' instead." |
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:But I guess I have invested far too much time on this. I am gone. Bye. |
:But I guess I have invested far too much time on this. I am gone. Bye. |
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::I sincerely do not understand what you're saying. I did not add the word "exclusive" to the article. I said that the program was designed for a specific task. That task is only tangentially related to the one described in the current lede. The source currently used was added (by me in 2011) to help explain the specific purpose of this software, because otherwise it's too vague to be useful. I don't dislike the linked article, the problem I have is that it is describing a different process from the one this software is designed for. The source already supports this, so asking me to find a source is redundant. Accusing me of subverting factual accuracy is a bit much, and I'm confused by the apparent hostility of your response. [[User:Grayfell|Grayfell]] ([[User talk:Grayfell|talk]]) 20:55, 5 February 2018 (UTC) |
::I sincerely do not understand what you're saying. I did not add the word "exclusive" to the article. I said that the program was designed for a specific task. That task is only tangentially related to the one described in the current lede. The source currently used was added (by me in 2011) to help explain the specific purpose of this software, because otherwise it's too vague to be useful. I don't dislike the linked article, the problem I have is that it is describing a different process from the one this software is designed for. The source already supports this, so asking me to find a source is redundant. Accusing me of subverting factual accuracy is a bit much, and I'm confused by the apparent hostility of your response. [[User:Grayfell|Grayfell]] ([[User talk:Grayfell|talk]]) 20:55, 5 February 2018 (UTC) |
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:::Since there has been no response, I have restored the link to DJing. [[User:Grayfell|Grayfell]] ([[User talk:Grayfell|talk]]) 03:03, 15 March 2018 (UTC) |
:::Since there has been no response, I have restored the link to DJing. [[User:Grayfell|Grayfell]] ([[User talk:Grayfell|talk]]) 03:03, 15 March 2018 (UTC) |
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⚫ | ::Technically, you ''could'' use Mixxx for [[audio mixing (recorded music)]] but you'd have a hard time doing that because that is not what it is designed for. [[Audio mixing (recorded music)]] is done with [[digital audio workstation]] software, not DJ software. I removed the confusing link to [[audio mixing (recorded music)]].—[[User:AThing|a thing]] 23:45, 1 April 2018 (UTC) |
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Needs better sources
I protest the idea of this article being deleted. I've just used it to create the coolest little ambient track track ever, and this may appear on my planned cassette release. I don't use this program for DJ'ing. I'm not a DJ. My music is ambient/electronic in nature and this free program proved to be the simplest way I've found yet to create something worthy of release. I use and love Propellerhead Reason 5 and Ableton Live Suite 8. But I've been hindered by too many options and too many sounds. Use Mixxx to load just two short samples and mess with their EQ's, pitches and levels. I mapped the knobs to my E-Mu Xboard25's sixteen knobs and my life is changed. Thank you Mixxx. If my album sells a few copies I'll donate to your continued efforts and improvements. Perhaps even sooner. Now I'm thinking of getting a dedicated controller like that new little DJ2GO. DJ gear ain't just for DJs. Same with the MPC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gspong (talk • contribs) 16:24, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
- The deletion has nothing to do with being "coolest", just that the article had poor independent sources. The best way to save an article you like is to add reliable independent sources to it, instead of self-published blogs. W Nowicki (talk) 18:11, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
I have added a couple more independent news sources, but don't feel qualified to remove any article quality tags since I'm a developer on the project. Would someone please review and remove as appropriate? I also tried to flesh out the lead but everything I wrote sounded like an advertisement, so I figure someone else should write it. -- PegasusRPG —Preceding undated comment added 09:30, 4 November 2011 (UTC).
List of versions, poor refs.
I removed the section listing all of the versions and their added features. It was completely redundant with the official blog, and looked like it fell under WP:NOT. I also added a REFIMPROV template. This article has many refs, but they're not that good. Too many of them are wp:primary, and the rest mostly look like passing mentions or press blog articles. I certainly wouldn't be offended if anybody thought this was too drastic and wanted to revert. Grayfell (talk) 00:34, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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DJing/Beatmatching
@Codename Lisa: The source currently used in the lede, "James, Daniel. "Drafting Digital Media". Apress, 2009, p. 213", specifically says that this software is designed for the style of mixing known as beatmatching, which is a DJing technique associated with dance music. This was previously explained in the article, but was changed back 2016, where the source was also removed. The edit summary was the only explanation, which suggests to me that this was based on original research or maybe just opinion. Audio mixing (recorded music) is not an ideal wikilink, is it is mainly about multi-track recording being mixed-down by an engineer, which doesn't really have much to do with DJing or beatmatching or similar. Mixxx is not designed for this purpose, nor would it be a good choice for this, which is supported by the attached source. This is why I say that the previous lede was inappropriate, and also why I don't think calling this "jargon" is appropriate. At this point the source is dated, but it's still better than nothing, and I have read it and can confirm that it is about DJing, and is not about broader forms of sound engineering. I don't like Jargon on Wikipedia either, but mislabeling something isn't the solution. Grayfell (talk) 08:34, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Hi.
- That's not at all what I said.
- I said a source that says this program is exclusively for DJing (whatever it means). This program can be used for any audio mixing project.
- Also,
"Audio mixing is not an ideal wikilink"
is not an excuse for subverting factual accuracy. It is analogous to saying "X is a tomato product, but I don't like Wikipedia's tomato article, so I write 'it is potato product' instead." - But I guess I have invested far too much time on this. I am gone. Bye.
- —Codename Lisa (talk) 10:41, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- I sincerely do not understand what you're saying. I did not add the word "exclusive" to the article. I said that the program was designed for a specific task. That task is only tangentially related to the one described in the current lede. The source currently used was added (by me in 2011) to help explain the specific purpose of this software, because otherwise it's too vague to be useful. I don't dislike the linked article, the problem I have is that it is describing a different process from the one this software is designed for. The source already supports this, so asking me to find a source is redundant. Accusing me of subverting factual accuracy is a bit much, and I'm confused by the apparent hostility of your response. Grayfell (talk) 20:55, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Since there has been no response, I have restored the link to DJing. Grayfell (talk) 03:03, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- Technically, you could use Mixxx for audio mixing (recorded music) but you'd have a hard time doing that because that is not what it is designed for. Audio mixing (recorded music) is done with digital audio workstation software, not DJ software. I removed the confusing link to audio mixing (recorded music).—a thing 23:45, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- I sincerely do not understand what you're saying. I did not add the word "exclusive" to the article. I said that the program was designed for a specific task. That task is only tangentially related to the one described in the current lede. The source currently used was added (by me in 2011) to help explain the specific purpose of this software, because otherwise it's too vague to be useful. I don't dislike the linked article, the problem I have is that it is describing a different process from the one this software is designed for. The source already supports this, so asking me to find a source is redundant. Accusing me of subverting factual accuracy is a bit much, and I'm confused by the apparent hostility of your response. Grayfell (talk) 20:55, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
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