Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Gymnastics

Reliable sources discussion

What are people using as reliable sources? I'd like to discuss it, learn from each other. Also, I might synthesize the discussion and put on the project page, if worthwhile.

TCO initial impressions

My impression is that gymnastics does not get huge coverage by reliable sources as say NFL football. There are less amounts of specialized media. And also in the general media, the coverage tends to be very dry (just scores, usually).

I've found the following as allowed sources:

• International Gymnast: have to search it on site, using google searches I get too many forum hits. Seems like search only covers recent years. Wonder if there is a workaround as that really has a lot of good content.
• Inside Gymnastics: seems like no on site search method, other than current issue. But maybe Google searches with field defined. At least there is no forum to muck up the results.
• Google news searches: gets AP and NYT articles and the like. But only for last month or so. Is there a work around? I guess one can check each site and search on there, but that seems tedious.
• General sports mags: have seen some stuff from ESPN, SI. Actually from google searches, but I guess one could try on online search as well.
• USAG results and rest of site. I think it's official and legit.
• FIG. I've just reffed the COP, but there is some other content on there, bios with birthdays for instance.
• Athlete official websites. I guess there are some times when these are allowed for biographies (need to check the exact policy). I haven't really used them too much. A lot of them are really out of date or inaccurate (like even if they are allowed per policy, we need to watch accuracy, even more than with a NYT story or the like.)
• The Gymternet: A blog run by long-time gymnastics media fan favorite, Lauren Hopkins. Good, reliable content.

Non-allowed sources: There is some pretty decent coverage on blogs and Gymanstics Examiner, although we can't really use that. (Blythe is actually a professional journalist irl, but we still can't use GE.) I think there are some specialized times we can use those media (like when there is an interview and we are using the words of the subject for a biographical article), but I'm not sure the exact policy. Also, I know for GE, there is a specific appeals process to go through to even use it as a reference.

TCO (talk)

16,000 BLPs moving out of mainspace

Hi. Some of you will be aware of an ongoing issue of BLP articles created by Sander.v.Ginkel. The background at ANI can be found here. The discussion on the cleanup can be found here. In short, 16,000 BLP articles are being moved out of the mainspace to draftspace. This has already started following a Bot Approval. This should be complete in the next 48hrs or so. Articles will remain in draft for 90 days. In that time, they can be checked, and if OK, moved back to the mainspace. Anything not checked after 90 days will be deleted automatically.

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Highest scores list

I noticed there isn't much (almost any) information on best scores on each apparatus, which is kind of weird because it's obviously kept track of (everyone was making a fuss about epke's highest score ever on any apparatus and subsequently h.bar). I know my country's federation keeps track of national highest scores so it's not something irrelevant.

Unfortunately I don't know where to look (even though I tried), so I want to propose that top3/top5 lists (I think no more is needed because differences in scores are too small) are made for each apparatus in artistic gymnastic, trampoline (individual and sincro), double mini and tumbling and rhythmic gymnastic (there are 5 apparatuses and NO apparatus event - I think one (longer) list of highest scores regardless of apparatus would be sufficient) and for allround in artistic and rhythmic gymnastic. 213.149.61.252 (talk) 17:47, 1 May 2018 (UTC)