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January 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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January 2017

Women Philosophers & Women in Education online editathons
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Happy 2017[edit]

Happy new year :-)

--Camelia (talk) 12:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much and the same to you.--Ipigott (talk) 13:39, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Yes, same to you two, Rosiestep, Victuallers, SusunW, Penny Richards and Megalibrarygirl too.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:17, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I hope that it is a Happy New Year for everyone, or at least not disastrous. I'll be happy to hoist a glass wishing us all health and happiness and many more days of editing. SusunW (talk) 17:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Let's make 2017 an awesome year! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:29, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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A toast to all of you, my friends... Ian, Camelia.boban, Dr. Blofeld, Victuallers, SusunW, Penny Richards and Megalibrarygirl! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Grin Victuallers (talk) 09:31, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Ipigott![edit]

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Thanks very much. A Happy New Year to you too.--Ipigott (talk) 13:21, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy 2017![edit]

Happy New Year! Wishing good health and happiness as we start the new year! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Rosie, and all the best to you and your family too.--Ipigott (talk) 19:19, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year![edit]

And many thanks for all your good comradeship this past year. Alafarge (talk) 16:29, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

All the best to you too. I look forward to further collaboration throughout 2017.--Ipigott (talk) 16:33, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Bonne année[edit]

Eh :) Anthere (talk)

Merci, Anthere. J'espère que nous aurons la possibilité d'élargir notre collaboration en 2017.--Ipigott (talk) 07:55, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Women in Technology[edit]

Hi, if you have time, would you please run a Wikidata list for Women in Technology? Thanks, --Rosiestep (talk) 00:04, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Rosiestep I have made a couple of attempts at this but it is not successful as occupations such as technician and technologist are hardly used at all on Wikipedia or Wikidata. I suppose it's because technicians are not usually notable enough for Wikipedia unless they have excelled in something more specific. The Wikidata lists on computer scientists and scientists might help. There are also crowd-sourced lists on technology and engineering. Good luck with your Cisco assignment.--Ipigott (talk) 07:47, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for trying. In hindsight, 'Technology' is probably not a good word. 'Engineer' would be better. I'd run the report myself, but don't know how. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:07, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
OK. I'll try to produce one on women engineers.--Ipigott (talk) 17:10, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Rosiestep: Done. Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Engineers. I see there are 73 on the list.--Ipigott (talk) 17:20, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! The list doesn't have the person's Q number. Can it be added? For example, the first entry appears to be a man (based on the image) and if I could click on the Q number, I'd be able to make the correction on the Wikidata item. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:44, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Rosiestep Done.--Ipigott (talk) 08:23, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata barnstar[edit]

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Thank you, Ian, for the women in engineering redlist and for all the others, too. Appreciate what you do! Rosiestep (talk) 17:42, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks very much, Rosie, but several others are responsible for initiating lists along these lines. As with so much of what I do on Wikipedia, I have just followed in others' footsteps.--Ipigott (talk) 08:15, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Women's History Month[edit]

Hello! I was thinking to organize a local meet-up focused around Women's History Month. I'm not seeing any resources or coordination for 2017, including on Meta. Are you aware of anything? Thanks! --Tbennert (talk) 21:12, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

@Tbennert: That sounds like good news. Are you planning something for Montana? As far as I can see the only ones announced up to now are these. You can see WiR's evolving plans for March here. Please keep us informed of progress. (cc Rosiestep, Montanabw).--Ipigott (talk) 10:40, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes, in Billings. I'm trying to figure out a way of doing something virtual for the rest of the state. I will definitely be in contact with Montanabw, we've worked together before. And I'll let you all know once I've gotten farther along. Thanks for the resources! --Tbennert (talk) 19:20, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
I'd also ping KingJeff1970 who I've co-facilitated with. Might be a good topic for my "cowgirl hall of fame" or "women of the west" theme I mentioned at the WP:WPWIR page. Montanabw(talk) 20:33, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Sonja Kehler[edit]

In Sonja Kehler, there's a ref in Danish. Could you please add it to positions where it applies, and perhaps even add what it has but the article has not, - like details about her teaching in Odense? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

February 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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February 2017

Black Women & Women Anthropologists online editathons
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Can you help?[edit]

I am working on an article for Sarah Wool Moore and I think this [1] says she was given an award for her help with Italian immigrants, but I am not sure. Can you help? SusunW (talk) 18:35, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

SusunW: She is cited for helping the Society for Italian Immigrants, in particular by opening schools. However, the passage quoted is about an honorary award (diploma d'onore) bestowed on the Society itself, apparently by the Italian authorities. She is included as one of those responsible for its success.--Ipigott (talk) 08:24, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Ian! Since she was one of the founders, that's huge. Appreciate the help. SusunW (talk) 20:21, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

El Progreso, Jutiapa has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg Hello, Ipigott. El Progreso, Jutiapa, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you knowDYK comment symbol. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 12:01, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

WiR invitation pages condensed by year[edit]

As you and I are the main two editors involved with this, please see these. One page for the whole year let's us see at a glance what we've been doing. And on the meetup page, the "invitation link" will be the same all year. Also, there's now a link in the Navbox for each year's outreach/communication/invite templates. All the invite pages are now redirects to the year page, which manages the attribution issue. Hope in my effort to streamline, I didn't cause confusion. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:42, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Rosiestep Thanks for taking the trouble to arrange all this year by year. I don't think there will be any confusion.--Ipigott (talk) 09:19, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.2[edit]

Hello Ipigott,
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A HUGE backlog

We now have 425 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

  1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
  2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
  3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election[edit]

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.


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Maria Eugenia Bozzoli has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

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A kitten for you![edit]

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Hi, Ipigott.

I really appreciate your participation in the article of Jose Antonio Sosa . I would like to count with you in future projects too.

Sincerely,

Fergus_Manx 01:24, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Just tidied things up a bit as I was reviewing the article. May I suggest you add at least one reference to each paragraph, preferably secondary sources. As a new user, you're doing a really good job. Maybe your next addition will be the Escuela Técnica Superior de Arquitectura de Las Palmas de Gran Canaria (or its English equivalent). Just let me know if you need any help or run into any difficulties.--Ipigott (talk) 08:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

a couple of questions[edit]

I rewrote and documented a previously uncited article on Sesenne, who I found when I wrote the bio on another St. Lucian. I did not put her on the anthropologist's list because she wasn't really a scientist...but she inspired cultural preservation and got anthropologists to record the music of St. Lucia. I am curious as to whether she should go there as a "work", so to speak?

Secondly, I am nearing completion on Mayme de Mena, I SOOOOO wish my Oxford University Press approval password would hurry up and show up, and need someone to review it with a really critical eye. I felt like I had to explain a bunch of what was going on because the UNIA article is largely uncited and her whole identity thing is on the surface deceptive, but according to law, not at all. At any rate, should you have a chance to review it, I'd be appreciative. SusunW (talk) 21:49, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

SusunW: You've done a great job on Sesenne. She obviously fits our coverage of Black Women. I wouldn't have considered her to be a anthropologist but as you point out, anthropologists have shown interest in her contributions to language and culture. I'll look at Mayme de Mena now.--Ipigott (talk) 11:04, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
De Mena seems to me to be very thoroughly researched. I see you have listed all the names she used in the box but I still found it confusing to have to deal with all her different names and name changes in the article. I don't know if there is any solution to this but perhaps you could try to keep "de Mena" as far as possible, while mentioning her name changes when they occurred. I'm afraid I can't help you with the OUP.--Ipigott (talk) 11:55, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you so much, Ian. I was so thrilled last night to make the connection between Maymie and Leontine Kelly. I was a bit worried that I had done too much explaining both about UNIA and her identities, but I don't see how one could cover her without doing that. Would that I could find photos or that portrait. Wonder what happened to it? I am also concerned that without at least reviewing the OUP info, some vital clue might be missed. (Like it would be grand if they figured out if their mama moved to Jennings, which I suspect or if Mary L. of New Orleans University was actually Maymie, which I also am fairly sure of).
I think I am going to have to do a piece on David DeWitt, Maymie's brother and Leontine's dad. I am also interested in Angella, who became a teacher. Frustrating that we have so little of the black press publications available on line. This family were huge, huge, huge contributors, nationally to the development of the black community. SusunW (talk) 15:22, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Whose Knowledge? News - February 2017[edit]

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Wikipage already published - deletedwiki[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_Lee_Crawford Can you remove that page that exhibit the topic as a deleted one? Deletedwiki is only for moderators and could not do anything! http://deletedwiki.com/index.php?title=Kerry_Lee_Crawford — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khaled Abolaynain (talkcontribs) 18:06, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Khaled Abolaynain: Deleted Wiki is a separate initiative to which I have no access.--Ipigott (talk) 09:07, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Review of initial updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[edit]

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Meetup 37 invitations x2[edit]

Hi Ian, Please review Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2017#Meetup37 and make changes if you wish. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:47, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Rosiestep: You'll see I made minor adjustments to the two invitations and have added a word on other languages on the editathon page. I also invited Victuallers to provide a link to Role Models but he seems to be tied up for the next couple of weeks. I'm not sure how Tagishsimon intends to proceed with Wikidata redlink lists in some of the other languages but it would be great if we could inform those concerned of their availability. Perhaps we should wait a few more days before we send out the invitations. In the meantime, we can announce the March focus on our main page and by adding clickables to our current editathon pages. As we are entertaining visitors over the next week, I may not be as responsive as usual.--Ipigott (talk) 17:02, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi you two. I am tied up with real life issues, but I'm travelling to Cambridge tomorrow to discuss this locally. It would be helpful if a semi blank editathon page could be created so I can describe the event. One college will be hosting invitees from all of the other Cambridge colleges. I can obviously clone the existing project pages but I'm not sure where it sits. Is it a parallel project on en:wiki? Have we moved to meta? Is there a facility for multilingual support? A blank page in the right place with aid me in understanding. Thanks for your forbearance. Victuallers (talk) 17:50, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Ian, enjoy the time with your visitors. I've tweaked the invites some more. I'll get them out by Monday. The other language Wikidata pages can be linked on our meetup page, e.g. "French-language Wikidata list of artists", once they're created. Victuallers, we don't have a "master template", but it would be a good idea to have one. This meetup page is the closest thing we have to a skeleton page. No, we don't have a presence on Meta... not yet. I think we should develop a strategy for it and get it done in 2017. Cambridge? Pretty cool! Go get 'em! I'm traveling for a wiki event; sorry for brevity. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:35, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Ian, one more, which I learned about through FB: nl:Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Gendergap. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:26, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Rosiestep: Thanks but they were already on the list. If you are happy with the international list and the international invitation, I could send them out tomorrow. I've prepared a draft editathon page on Role Models but am waiting for Roger's approval.--Ipigott (talk) 14:37, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Rosiestep: I've tidied up the international invitation and changed the links so that they work from other wikis and other languages. I think we should get all the invitations out this weekend. If you do the mass messaging for English, I'll send out the others in the normal way. I've tried it out on Jane's Dutch page and it seems to work.--Ipigott (talk) 15:36, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes, get the international ones out and I'll take care of the MassMessaging. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:49, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Rosiestep: All sent out. Let's see what kind of a response we get.--Ipigott (talk) 09:08, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
In retrospect, I don't understand why @Roger's meetup page #38 for "Role Models" wasn't included in WiR's March invitation, e.g. why we didn't wait to send out invites until after the draft meetup page #38 was sorted out. Why aren't "Role Models" part of #37... e.g. because it includes an in-person event? If this is the case, then shouldn't we split the A+F campaign from TheWomenYouHaveNeverMet campaign as each also have in-person nodes? Which redlists will #38 be using vs. #37? --Rosiestep (talk) 15:11, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Rosiestep: Maybe we should have waited but I really thought we should get moving. The A+F events and The Women You Have Never Met have been attracting attention for weeks and Roger told me he was tied up until the end of the month. I'm pleased to see that we are now progressing on his Role Models page but it still needs more work. While Role Models is of course being held in connection with Women's History Month, the priorities are rather different and quite specific. The idea is to attract articles about women who graduated from women's colleges and have now become notable. I've suggested to Roger that we should have a special invitation which we could send out to attract participation from women's colleges around the world. I'm still trying to get more details of the tie-üps. I don't think we need to send out another invitation to those on our main list. They can see what's going on from our /37 editathon page. I'm sorry if I have been putting too much pressure on you all but I think it is important to keep people informed of what is going on, especially when we are trying to get people to contribute in other languages.--Ipigott (talk) 15:57, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
No worries re pressure; we're good. :) Truth be told, I'm really glad Victuallers has suggested this event, and that we'll be able to include it in our March line-up as "women who graduated from women's colleges" is a new topic for WiR. However, if Role Models (#38) is about "women who graduated from women's colleges", that point needs clarification on the meetup page. And we'll need redlists. In the US, the prominent historical women's colleges include the East Coast-based Seven Sisters (Barnard College, Bryn Mawr College, Mount Holyoke College, Radcliffe College, Smith College, Vassar College, and Wellesley College), plus the California-based Scripps College and Mills College. But certainly, we need to be inclusive of all continents (e.g. avoid UK/US content gender gap systemic bias), so I hope the plan is to include redlists based on some of these schools, too. I don't know how to compile Wikidata redlists, let alone those based on university, but I assume you, or maybe Jane023, or others are sorting it out. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:36, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Perplexed by this comment from you on the WiR talkpage, especially in light of above: "Rosiestep is a little concerned that with the emphasis on Cambridge, the Americans might be under-represented. I'm looking for volunteers to keep the Stars and Stripes flying on this one too." --Rosiestep (talk) 22:58, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Rosiestep: This was in response to "avoid UK/US content gender gap systemic bias". I thought you mean UK vs US but your last comment indicates you meant UK plus US vs the rest of the world. Sorry about the misunderstanding. But you are certainly right in suggesting we need to bring colleges from the rest of the world on board too.--Ipigott (talk) 10:28, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Maybe we should split up #37 into (a) A+F, keeping all the redlists which are on #37 now, and (b) TheWomenYouHaveNeverMet as a geo-based campaign, using redlists of Spanish-language countries? It might actually make a lot of sense to do have a second-language emphasis as we launch our multi-language outreach. We could make #37 a March/WHM landing page. Then create #37a (A+F), #37b (TheWomenYouHaveNeverMet), and move #38 to #37c. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:41, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Rosiestep: We're working on it. See Roger's talk page. I think /37 is fine the way it is. All the components contibute to the same focus. And as you can see, we're working on Roger's priorities.--Ipigott (talk) 16:45, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

In the Netherlands we are working on female professors of the University of Amsterdam. Professors can be role models too, not just graduates of women's schools, no? Think Mona Lisa Smile. As far as lists go, these are built upon queries, so you first need to load up the data before you can generate a list. As far as women in a book is concerned, I did this for Women Painters of the World. I first created an item for the book, and then for each woman in the book I either made an item with various statements including the statement that she is described in the book as a source with page number, or I added the statement about being described in the book. We should do this for all the dictionaries of women that we find. Even if we don't have time to write the bios, someone else might if we provide the data. Jane (talk) 17:38, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Jane023, agree, professors/faculty is important, too. Re creating a list: is it possible to create one for women who were "educated at" (P69) "Barnard College" (Q167733) but don't have an article on en-wiki and format it like this? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:46, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes, but someone has to add the items if they don't exist yet, and also add the statement on Wikidata that they were educated at Barnard College. It looks like there are two such items though: here is a query and I commented out the line that filters for bios on enwiki so you can see the list of 374 women here Jane (talk) 18:46, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

March 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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Welcome to...
Women's History Month worldwide online editathon
Facilitated by Women in Red
  • March 2017
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  • Featuring: "Art+Feminism" and "The Women You Have Never Met"
  • Feel free to add articles in other languages too

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New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections[edit]

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Invitation to international talkpages and contributors[edit]

Page stalkers: please forward this to your international contacts

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Welcome to... Women's History Month multi-language online editathon

Facilitated by Women in Red

  • March 2017
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  • Featuring: "Art+Feminism" and "The Women You Have Never Met"
  • We hope you will help to improve coverage of women on Wikipedia
  • Contribute in your own language
  • Inform your communities of the need for their support.

Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English
(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list)

--Ipigott (talk) 10:52, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your invitation, if I have a bit of free time, I'll try to do something. Cheers, --Elisardojm (talk) 16:39, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Bianca Williams (anthropologist)[edit]

What has she written?Xx236 (talk) 13:11, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Patience, my friend Xx236. I'm still working on it.--Ipigott (talk) 13:59, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for El Progreso, Jutiapa[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 25 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article El Progreso, Jutiapa, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that maize, cacao, and achiote were historically the main crops produced in El Progreso, Guatemala? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/El Progreso, Jutiapa. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, El Progreso, Jutiapa), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Your talent[edit]

I'm trying to learn a bit more French at the moment. Really demanding learning one language. How you've managed to learn 15 languages or whatever it is beats me. You have a definite talent for it! It's one thing to learn words and be able to understand text, but the understand and communicate with a fluent speaker speaking at full speed. Even with Spanish I have trouble understanding what is being said! What languages do know know again?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:30, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld Thanks. I started taking a real interest in French when I was about 10. From the age of about 13, I listened to French radio, read a French newspaper every day and when I was 15, I spent a few weeks in France with two French pen friends. At the time I was doing science subjects at school so reading French novels was an added attraction. Once I had more or less mastered conversational French, I found it was relatively easy to pick up other languages. I spent holidays with families in Austria and Spain learning German and Spanish. I didn't meet my Danish wife until I was 30. As a result, although I picked up the language quite quickly, I never managed to gain a perfect accent the way I did with the others. (It's said that men lose that ability when they are about 25 although women can continue until 40.) Most of the other languages I speak or read are based on these although I did take up Russian for a while in my early 20s and spent some time in Japan in 1969. Spanish is one of the languages which is spoken most quickly, up to 300 words per minute, compared to about 140 wpm for English and even less for German. So no wonder you have difficulty in following spoken Spanish. The French speak at more or less the same speed as the English. My wife has been improving her French on DuoLingo (duolingo.com). It's free and very effective. You should try it out but you have to give it at least 30 minutes a day for a few months. After that, you could try dating a French girl. Let me know how you get on. Good to have an exchange here not directly related to Wikipedia. (Hope I'm not breaking any rules. You never know who's watching!)--Ipigott (talk) 14:10, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
I am in awe of your skills. *sigh* I'm doomed. I didn't start learning Spanish until I was over 50. No wonder it is so hard, not to mention 104 variations of each and every verb and the whole thing of inanimate objects having gender boggles my mind. The speed is indeed a huge issue. Never really understood why I only get about 1/3 of the things people say to me, but it makes sense. They talk way too fast and then there are the words I just don't know. I think I shall never master it, but maybe I'll be able to have an entire conversation one day. Not my talent and yet, I struggle on. SusunW (talk) 15:27, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Very interesting. I've learned some basic Italian stuff too and fins it easier to follow than Spanish, I'll often recognize phrases in some Italian films. I would love to be fluent in French, Spanish and Italian in particular. I've noticed a lot of word similarities, evidently based on the original Latin etc. I don't think I could commit much to learning any one fluently though, but I should get a good basic grasp of all three really for film watching purposes if no other ;-). I joined duolingo and already reached level 2 in French :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:29, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Good to hear you're both making progress with your languages. To tell you the truth, I never bothered too much with grammar. No one ever told me there were 104 variations of each Spanish verb. (I suspect there may be even more in French.) I seem to be able to pick things up more or less the way kids do, by imitating others. One of the main secrets though is recognizing what is different or special about English, for example all the non-translatable idioms. Once you get that sorted out, then you avoid making the same errors in all the other languages. Duolingo is good to start with but to make real progress you need to get together with native speakers.--Ipigott (talk) 16:18, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Interesting that you say Spanish speakers talk too fast, SusunW. Here in Israel, it sounds to me like Hebrew speakers talk a mile a minute. But then they say I speak English too quickly. Regarding the gender-specific objects, that's a main feature of Hebrew. Since I started learning Hebrew as a child, it doesn't seem strange to me anymore. Yoninah (talk) 15:46, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Yoninah It really is a quirky thing. Reading languages, I seem to do fine, comprehension is pretty easy. But once I try to vocalize or hear someone speak, I am overwhelmed. It is as if my ears just shut down and I hear only gibberish and my brain conveniently forgets everything. I know tons of words, just can never find them in my brain when someone tries to speak to me. I doubt that it is a fear of saying it incorrectly, because I have no problem with someone correcting my tense, or grammar, I literally just cannot find the words I need. I think it has to do with pace, because when I read, I can back up and re-read, but in a conversation, I get hopelessly lost. The gender-specific thing to me is also baffling. There is no rhyme nor reason to it in Spanish and then, to make it worse, there are transgender things, like water. El agua becomes las aguas in the plural. Why *is* that? Because it sounds better, is illogical to me. It sounds as it does. :s SusunW (talk) 16:10, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
And I was thinking of learning Spanish! I agree with you, reading is easier than listening. Yoninah (talk) 16:18, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Well SusunW I can answer that last one: You have to say "el aqua" rather than "la agua" because agua starts with a tonic vowel. But you would say "la nueva agua" as it is in fact feminine. But the easy solution is that you say "el aqua" because "la agua" would sound funny.--Ipigott (talk) 16:24, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Maria Eugenia Bozzoli[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 27 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Maria Eugenia Bozzoli, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Maria Eugenia Bozzoli was one of the founders of anthropology in Costa Rica? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Maria Eugenia Bozzoli. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Maria Eugenia Bozzoli), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:02, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Cross-wiki talkback[edit]

Hi there Ipigott, I've responded to your comment on meta -- Samtar talk · contribs 19:20, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Women in Red/female bio editathon advice[edit]

"blank page: should not be in mainspace"

True, but blanking the page is never a correct course of action. In this scenario, it's an inappropriate cross-namespace redirect, so the correct action is to add {{Db-r2}} (or {{Db-rediruser}}, which redirects to it). See also WP:CSD. — Smjg (talk) 17:56, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Smjg. I already sent you a message on your talk page. I'm afraid I don't know all these codes but just wanted to indicate that the page should be deleted. I thought my comment in plain English was pretty clear. In any case, it looks to me as if this information should be brought to the attention of Jane023 who created the page in the first place.--Ipigott (talk) 08:20, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
?? I have no idea what those codes mean either! Jane (talk) 08:47, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Lucie Ingemann[edit]

Hi, I started nominating some A+F editathon articles for DYK. (I don't mind dealing with the system, and I also have a backlog of QPQs.) This is a very nice article that you wrote. I just wonder if you could provide an inline citation for this sentence, as I'd like to base a hook on it: She shared with her husband a deep sense of art and religion with the result that even her flower paintings often reflected religious and mystical themes inspired by German Romanticism. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:49, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Yoninah for keeping the flag flying. It's good to hear you have not been intimidated by developments on DYK. The sentence you quote is based on Weilbach's biography. There was already an inline ref for the paragraph but I've now included one more. I'm glad to hear you like the article. The fact that not even the Danish Wikipedia includes an article about Lucie Ingemann, shows how women still frequently stand in the shadow of their husbands. I thought it was a good choice for Women's History Month. Thanks once again for the great work you are doing on DYK.--Ipigott (talk) 08:12, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Furra[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 9 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Furra, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that men and women from the Sidama people sing radically different songs about Queen Furra? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Furra. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Furra), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:02, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[edit]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

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Rosiestep: On reading through this and some of the links, I was surprised to see there was no mention of Women in Red in the Meta page on Gender gap although all the other WikiProjects are mentioned for English and other pertinent languages. Is this simply a mistake or is Women in Red not considered as a viable approach?--Ipigott (talk) 07:58, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Oh my gosh, this made me laugh out loud. In conversation with a WMF staffer yesterday, this exact page was mentioned, and we agreed that no one was keeping it updated. To answer your question, though, the fact that WiR is missing from it is neither a mistake nor because someone doesn't consider Women in Red as a viable approach. It's simply that no one has bothered to add it to the page. Another missing one is Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2016 (while Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2013 is listed). --Rosiestep (talk) 16:42, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Rosiestep: Glad to see you noticed it too. Thanks for adding it. I see that recently a few additions have also been made to Gender bias on Wikipedia but if we are to expect any serious attention to the problem in the evolving strategy, it might be useful for you and other interested parties to make sure it provides the right background. I am a little hesitant to become involved in this and similar sources, given the existence of Systers, etc. I think it would be more effective if women were to work on this rather than male editors who think they understand the problem. It also seems to me that the whole question of the gender gap is receiving very little attention in strategy development but perhaps you all feel that the other new orientations will eventually lead to a more equitable environment.--Ipigott (talk) 17:24, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Our thought process is on the same track. Stay tuned for an update, my friend. ;) --Rosiestep (talk) 20:34, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Maymie de Mena has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg Hello, Ipigott. Maymie de Mena, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you knowDYK comment symbol. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 12:01, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Maymie de Mena[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 16 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Maymie de Mena, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the American Leonie Turpeau, the Nicaraguan Maymie de Mena, and the Jamaican Madame Aiken were the same person? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Maymie de Mena. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Maymie de Mena), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:02, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

We invite you to join the movement strategy conversation (now through April 15)[edit]

05:02, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Nina Simonovich-Efimova[edit]

Any input you might have (or help with the red links) on her would be lovely. I think she would make a wonderful GA. I could just leave the links out, but her mom opened the first kindergarten in Russia and her dad was a well-known physician. Then there is her husband, who was a distinguished sculptor in his own right and her teacher who was an artist. I also wondered if Rosiestep could peruse it for clarity and weigh in on whether we should add more about her other books. Of course, if either of you know someone who works with Russian sourcing and could help with the redlinks that'd be awesome. SusunW (talk) 23:20, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

SusunW: Very interesting article. Certainly worth bringing to GA. I've started to go through it and am surprised at "née Hudson" under Early life. I've tried to see where it comes from as it appears to be a result of mistranslation but haven't been able to find it.--Ipigott (talk) 08:24, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I see the mistranslation comes from http://www.jewish.ru/culture/art/2001/07/news8707.php. Her mainden name was Augustina Gutsohn from Hamburg.--Ipigott (talk) 08:52, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Not too sure what Mena/Мена refers to. Is it Dea Mena, the goddess? The link is to a disambiguation page.--Ipigott (talk) 11:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I've been through the whole article. You've already done a lot of good work but we need to be careful about the translations and transliterations. There seem to be a number of other English-language sources which could be drawn on too. The lead seems to contain a few details which are not fully addressed in the article, e.g. on her painting. It might also be interesting to develop more on the theatre in Moscow which was apparently known as the Efimovs' Puppet Theatre. We also need to include more illustrations. I can help with the red links but am in the midst of writing biographies of the Swedish and Finnish artists associated with the Åland art colony.--Ipigott (talk) 13:03, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I love discovery. Sometimes you go to the well and pull out a totally fascinating gem. Who doesn't like puppets! I truly depend on you with translations and transliterations, which is why I always ask you before moving forward. Even though I use multiple translator programs, I am always unsure. I will see if there are other sources I have access to, but most that I could find, I used. There is no rush, obviously, but I'll start on some of the red links. Maybe @Dr. Blofeld and We hope: would be interested? I have no idea about the photos, even the one on the Russian article was fair use. I didn't really like it because the one I used had examples of her work. SusunW (talk) 15:10, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Oh, and Mena is a fairy tale. I found various versions. An old man and woman have several carts, he goes to town and trades it for a horse. Coming home he encounters a guy and trades the horse for an ox, then the ox for a goat/pig, that for something else and finally arrives home with a poker/needle, with which the wife either beats him, or uses to kindle the fire/sew his clothes. I found no article on it whatsoever, but multiple versions of the story on line. SusunW (talk) 15:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
SusunW: I'm tied up for the rest of the day but I'll try to get back on it tomorrow. There are lots of images if you search in Russian. I can help with the red links too but the priority should be to complete the article.--Ipigott (talk) 17:30, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

April events at Women in Red[edit]

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Welcome to Women in Red's
April 2017 worldwide online editathons.
Participation is welcome in any language.

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DYK for Lucie Ingemann[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 30 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lucie Ingemann, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Danish artist Lucie Ingemann (pictured), known for her large altarpieces depicting biblical figures, also created flower paintings with religious and mystical themes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lucie Ingemann. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lucie Ingemann), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

I have nominated an article of yours for DYK - Template:Did you know nominations/Lilian Brøgger. SL93 (talk) 11:37, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

@SL93: Thanks for picking this one up for DYK. It will help to promote our current WiR focus on book artists.--Ipigott (talk) 12:31, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
You're welcome. I have come across the project multiple times and I think anything to support it is great. SL93 (talk) 12:40, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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This barnstar, awarded in the place of the national barnstar of Denmark, is awarded to Ipigott for his immense contributions to Wikipedia's coverage of Denmark. Gott mit Uns! Vami_IV✠ 16:47, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Vami IV: Thank you very much. I appreciate it all the more from someone who does not have obvious connections with Denmark.--Ipigott (talk) 09:08, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Ana Milodanović[edit]

I am totally fascinated with this woman's work. It is gorgeous! At any rate, I have no idea how good you are with Croatian, but it baffles me. Names from an article, do not match with names in the hr-WP—an "a" here and "i" there, all sorts of extraneous letters abound. If you have skill with this language, can you make sure I did not make any blatant errors. As always, help is much appreciated, but if you are busy with other things, not to worry. SusunW (talk) 22:55, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

SusunW Tied up at the moment but will look at it tomorrow. I think Rosie speaks Croatian.--Ipigott (talk) 20:05, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
@Rosiestep and Ipigott: Not to worry, Ian. When/if you get around to it will be fine. In the meantime, I'll ping Rosie and see if she can help. SusunW (talk) 20:43, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Actually, I speak Serbian, but it is quite similar to Croatian. Writing is another thing, though, for me. I'll look at it, but am also pinging Antidiskriminator who may be able to assist. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:38, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Rosiestep! SusunW (talk) 00:07, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Rosiestep for pinging me. I checked the links and translation and could not find any mistakes.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:58, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
Thank you so much Antidiskriminator. Appreciate your help. SusunW (talk) 22:48, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
Thank you; Antidiskriminator. Always nice to be in touch with you. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 23:01, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Lilian Brøgger[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 13 April 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lilian Brøgger, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Danish illustrator Lilian Brøgger has illustrated over a hundred books in a variety of unconventional styles? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lilian Brøgger. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lilian Brøgger), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Jadwiga Szubartowicz[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 18 April 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jadwiga Szubartowicz, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Jadwiga Szubartowicz (pictured), the oldest living Pole, witnessed the October Revolution? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jadwiga Szubartowicz. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Jadwiga Szubartowicz), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 00:04, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Precious five years![edit]

Precious
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Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Garda. You have been doing a wonderful job of following us all up over the years. It's great to have committed people like you to encourage participation on Wikipedia. Precious work indeed!--Ipigott (talk) 08:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! Just yesterday I talked to a user ready to leave ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Vera Maslovskaya[edit]

This one took days to work on and I am still sure that it could use work. There were virtually no links in the Belarusian article to point me towards correct identification of places. The translator programs picked up various phrases as Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, etc. and with each variation gave me different spellings, not to mention the whole history of the region which I felt was necessary to briefly cover so that the events of her life made sense in context. I haven't created redirects because I am really unsure of what her maiden name should be, though I am fairly sure the spelling of her first married name is the way most sources list the name. Her second married name, is sometimes spelled with an "a" and sometimes with an "o", but I noted that if the translator picked words up as Belarusian the result used "a" and if they were identified as Russian they used "o"s. As always, your expert eyes would be helpful. If you cannot assist, maybe you know someone who can help. I thought of asking Piotrus because technically she did live in Poland. Maybe Piotrus can help with places, but I think none of the personal names are Polish. SusunW (talk) 23:12, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

I haven't looked at it yet but as I think I may have explained before there is no "standard" transliteration scheme between Russian, other Slavic languages and English. The best we can do is to provide the original name in, for example, Belarus and Rusiian, with a probable transcription into English. If I have time, I'll have a proper look tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 14:56, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Ian. If you can great, if you are too busy, not to worry. SusunW (talk) 15:15, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
SusunW: I've sorted out Ogrodniczki. It looks to me as if you have correctly identified her maiden name as Mateychuk. Are there any other place names you need help with? It looks to me as if you have done a very good job on the article.--Ipigott (talk) 14:37, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
I think her second married name is more likely to be Korchevskaya.--Ipigott (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, thank you. I changed the name. As I said, the place names are toughest. Any idea where Hrabovo (also known as Grabowo), Olpen (Olpin) in Polesia, Kalantaev in the Vawkavysk District might be? I don't necessarily care if they all have links, but without being able to identify them, we can't even say, near ... SusunW (talk) 15:35, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
SusunW: For a start, your Hrabovo is Grabovets in the Brest Region of western Belarus. It is located to the south of Baranovichi. It's covered in the Belarus Wikipedia: see Вёска Грабавец.--Ipigott (talk) 09:02, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
I think this must refer to Olpen in the Brest Region. See here. The church certainly exists: see here.--Ipigott (talk) 09:44, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
I think your Kalantaev must be Kalanaja in Grodno covered as Вёска Каланая in the Belarus wiki. Any more?--Ipigott (talk) 09:23, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
I have no idea how you did that, Ian, but thank you. SusunW (talk) 13:17, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Belated reply that I don't think she has much connection to Poland. I cannot even find a Polish spelling of her name. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:46, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

May 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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Dutch?[edit]

I need help with Dutch. While researching sources on these conferences I discovered a major story and fascinating history of the User:SusunW/International Archives for the Women's Movement. It was stolen by the Nazis, a big part of it ended up in Russia and after ten years of negotiations between 1993 and 2003 the Russian part was finally returned to the Netherlands. It is right now jumbled into the article on Atria Institute on gender equality and women's history, but I think that it needs to be separated—the collected documents are not the same as the institution which houses them. The archive is one collection in Atria's holdings, not the entirety. Atria also is the repository for the archives of the Business and Professional Women International (formerly IFBPW), the International Federation for Research in Women's History (IFRWH), and the International Federation of University Women (IFUW), which aren't even addressed in the article. So... back to my original request I found this but it is only in Dutch and will not work in any translator program. If you have time, can you peruse it and input any pertinent information in the draft for the International Archives article? I'll probably go ahead and move it to mainspace tomorrow because I want to take out the history portion of the Atria article and point it to the collection article. As always, thanks for your help. If you cannot assist because of other obligations, not a problem :) SusunW (talk) 20:30, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

SusunW: I've still quite a bit to do on launching our editathons for May but I would be happy to help you out in a day or two. In the meantime, you might get some help from Jane023.--Ipigott (talk) 07:04, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
SusunW thanks so much for your interest! In the Netherlands we now have monthly meetups at the Atria library and they would love to be able to share more of their rich holdings on English Wikipedia. My friend Spinster has started uploading some of their data to Wikidata as part of our ongoing collaboration so I agree that the collections should all be split out and linked to their proper items, if not articles. They have a lot of books and dictionaries about women too. Looking at the link, it looks like you can start by looking at Wilhelmina Drucker and Aletta Jacobs for information about what was taken and still is missing. Unfortunately, these archives were taken as war booty along with so much other stuff that I understand the liklihood of recovery beyond what has already been recovered is minimal. Jane (talk) 08:14, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Jane023 I have fixed the article on the Atria Institute, to reflect that it is a library and has multiple collections, an acquisition policy and a varied collection of holdings. Clearly we can expand on it more, but at least this is an article about Atria now. (It sort of struck me when I read the original as an article about the Louvre talking only about the Mona Lisa :/ ) I am thinking that the name should be changed to Atria Institute on Gender Equality and Women's History, but that is a small thing. On the IAV, which is only one of the holdings of Atria, my issue is that I cannot read this source [2]. Thanks for pointing me to Drucker. Obviously there is much more to add to the draft on Jacobs and Rosa Manus, but I had just started digging into it, when I discovered the article on Atria. It's how my mind works, one thing often leads to another...which is both a blessing and a curse. SusunW (talk) 15:27, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of 2017 block of Wikipedia in Turkey for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2017 block of Wikipedia in Turkey is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 block of Wikipedia in Turkey until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Ad Orientem (talk) 15:02, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

WPTR1000[edit]

Hi, I added 2017 block of Wikipedia in Turkey in Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Turkey). Please feel free to revert the addition if you disagree or think its bad humor. Regesta (talk) 08:09, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Regesta. I should have added it myself. I'm more systematic in adding new articles to the Nordic Challenge. I've been trying to work out where you come from. I see you have also been working on the Spanish wiki and you offer a Greek translation of your user name. In any case. it's good to see the Turkish Challenge is now above 50%. I must say all your work on ambassadors with lists and categories is very impressive. Well done!--Ipigott (talk) 10:02, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Join the next cycle of Wikimedia movement strategy discussions (underway until June 12)[edit]

19:30, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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16.97% - Well done for creating these figures, Ian.

It looks as if we will see a milestone of 17% very soon. Victuallers (talk) 12:23, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Roger. Resilience is indeed the appropriate term. I also really admire your resilience with all the tweets. I'm sure it all helps.--Ipigott (talk) 12:30, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

June 2017 offerings @ WikiProject Women in Red[edit]

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New Article?[edit]

Dear Ipigott,

you are a very good user! It would be very good, if you could bring Eva Strautmann (please take a look on german wikipedia: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Strautmann) into the en wikipedia! What do you think about this? Please also go to: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_Schiele_Art_Centrum and on this: Hungarian National Gallery! Best Regards from Germany! Thank you so much! U.B. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:8C:2D1E:1001:A487:3A08:B536:56C8 (talk) 19:28, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me on this, whoever you may be. I am however rather confused by your message. Strautmann's only relationship with the Egon Schiele Centre appears to be a name listing in 2008. She would only deserve an article on the EN wiki if her artworks are held in the permanent collections of museums or galleries or if she has received wide third-party attention. I can unfortunately find no evidence of this. The sources used in the German article are essentially primary.--Ipigott (talk) 09:53, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Nina Simonovich-Efimova has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg Hello, Ipigott. Nina Simonovich-Efimova, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you knowDYK comment symbol. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 12:01, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Re: Women's March on Portland[edit]

Thank you so much for your improvements to this article. There are some sources on the talk page to incorporate into the prose, then I hope to nominate the article for Good status. Thanks for helping this one along! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:11, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

July 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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