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===General Feedback===
===General Feedback===
''Archived comments can be found [[Wikipedia:WikiProject WikipediaWeekly/Feedback|here]].''
''Archived comments can be found [[Wikipedia:WikiProject WikipediaWeekly/Feedback|here]].''
*The second episode didn't seem to be descriptive enough. For example, references of Jimbo were made but a non-wikipedian or a wikipedian who doesn't follow the community/history well will be wondering, "Who's Jimbo?" When discussing topics it would be helpful to sometimes elaborate on things that the common person may not know. - [[User:Zero1328|Zero1328]] <sub>[[User talk:Zero1328|Talk?]]</sub> 07:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
*I agree with Zero1328's comment. I think you guys need to think about who you're aiming the podcast at - is it just Wikipedians? If so, is it established Wikipedians like Tawker and James F., or people who want to learn more about the project? Or is it non-Wikipedians who want to know more about it? Acknowledged, only an old-timer would be interested in some of the things you talked about; however, the casual surfer-by won't have a clue what was going on.
:Sum total: Make your audience clearer. You've done a fabulous job, but obviously there's some ironing out to do (hey, it's only Episode 2, you've got plenty of time :) )
:On a purely technical note, someone's mic was a little hissy. I listened to it this afternoon, so I can't remember whose it was, but, well, there you go. '''[[User:Riana_dzasta|riana]]_[[User talk:Riana dzasta|dzast]][[User:Riana_dzasta/Esperanza|<font color="green">a</font>]]''' 14:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
*Is this podcast purporting to be a commercial entity, given its [[.com]] address instead of a more noncommercial TLD such as [[.org]] or [[.info]]? [[User:Dtobias|*Dan T.*]] 23:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
*:.com was cheaper when I bought it... it's also the default on most dns lookups... thats about the only reason -- [[User:Tawker|Tawker]] 03:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
*::I don't know where you looked to register it, but on [http://www.godaddy.com/ GoDaddy], .com domains are $8.95 and .org domains are $8.99, so it's just a 4 cent difference. .info, .biz, and .us domains are actually cheaper than .com. Wikipedia itself moved from .com to .org a few years ago to signify its noncommercial status. I've got a [http://domains.dan.info/hall/shame.html Domain Hall of Shame] page to "commemorate" misuses of the domain space. [[User:Dtobias|*Dan T.*]] 03:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
*:::At the moment, it seems like a bit of a waste to just change domains, since we have the .com variation for at least a year now. I'd be happy to pay for the .org one, though, to which .com could then be forwarded... or, uh, something. [[User:Daveydweeb|Daveydw]]<font color="green">[[User:Daveydweeb/Esperanza|ee]]</font>[[User:Daveydweeb|b]] (<span style="font-size: smaller;"><sup>[[User talk:Daveydweeb|'''chat''']]</sup>/<sub>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/RandyWang 2|'''patch''']]</sub></span>) 09:10, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
*I think Wikimania needs better webcasting, in general, regardless of where it happens. I know folks in the northeastern US who couldn't make it to the one in Boston. I was there participating and I feel like I missed a lot of it, simply because there were five talks in the same hour and five hundred interesting contributors to meet. &mdash;[[User:Dvortygirl|Dvortygirl]] 17:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
*I think Wikimania needs better webcasting, in general, regardless of where it happens. I know folks in the northeastern US who couldn't make it to the one in Boston. I was there participating and I feel like I missed a lot of it, simply because there were five talks in the same hour and five hundred interesting contributors to meet. &mdash;[[User:Dvortygirl|Dvortygirl]] 17:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
*this latest episode's sound quality (i'm listening to the 64k mp3) is kinda low - static and distortion pretty prominent, especially early in the show. [[User:JoeSmack|JoeSmack]] <sup>[[User Talk:JoeSmack|Talk]]</sup><small>([[User:JoeSmack/sandbox/peerreview|p-review!]])</small> 17:55, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
*this latest episode's sound quality (i'm listening to the 64k mp3) is kinda low - static and distortion pretty prominent, especially early in the show. [[User:JoeSmack|JoeSmack]] <sup>[[User Talk:JoeSmack|Talk]]</sup><small>([[User:JoeSmack/sandbox/peerreview|p-review!]])</small> 17:55, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

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WikipediaWeekly

Purpose: The purpose of Wikipedia Weekly is to produce a weekly netcast or podcast that provides an informative dose of audio information regarding Wikipedia and our fellow projects. Its unofficial off wiki homepage is www.wikipediaweekly.com (this is done due to RSS limitations in MediaWiki)

It's an irony, because we're all so unbelievably verbal and we write so much that we can't communicate with each other... So it becomes a challenge to find a way that we can streamline communication.

In fact I'm very excited about this podcast as one of those tools. If this podcast is entertaining and lots of people in the entire community, internationallly and in many different projects listen to this, it gives us a central place to communicate news in an entertaining way. I think that's kind of cool."

— Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia Weekly episode 3

Episodes

How to get it

List

Talk Page Notification

Please enter your user talk link on Wikipedia:WikiProject WikipediaWeekly/delivery to receive information on new and upcoming episodes.

Participants

Participants can keep in contact via the #wikipediaweekly channel on FreeNode. Please note that we also like people who are not named Andrew.... :)

Userbox

This user is a Wikipedia Weekly host.

{{User wikipedia weekly}} is our userbox

The List

Those who signup will be added to the "pool" that we hope to have for each week. We will try to vary things up for diversity in viewpoint, expertise and geography.

Creating the podcast

In general, the podcast is created by a live online audio conversation using Skype, recorded by User:Fuzheado in AAC format, and/or by Daveydweeb in AIFF format. Participants should try to use a good headset microphone, and a room without much echo (a rug, or a curtain helps), and hang around in #wikipediaweekly on Freenode for updates on upcoming episodes.

Audio handling

The podcast will be available in Ogg Vorbis, MP3 and AAC format. The files will be hosted either on commons or on bandwidth that Tawker supplies (within limits) and Ourmedia as soon as we can get it to work. All RSS is done on the external site and all project members can recieve access to control the RSS feed.

Video

Ideas for Content

Fuzheado proposed (in email)

  • News
  • Features
  • Roundtable discussion

I guess kind of like TWIT but for Wiki.

Regular sources

Topics

Feel free to leave whatever you want to hear about.

  • Update on Wikimania
  • Dealing with Spam, Fleshlight
  • What constitutes notability
  • OTRS
  • Vandal fighting
  • Arbitration/Mediation
  • Does Wikipedia scale
  • Bots, how they work
  • Developer Q&A/update
  • Wiki Screen Casts (howto / introduction)

Suggestions from TBCΦ

  • Various privacy issues regarding Wikipedia.
  • Discussion on accusations of systemic bias in Wikipedia and on Wikipedia's "neutral point of view" concept.
  • The purpose of Esperanza and how it was formed
  • Should game pages be allowed on Wikipedia or are they unencyclopedic?
  • Disscussion on the quality of articles on Wikipedia.
  • Claims of "anti-elitism" in the Wikipedian community.
  • Commenting on various views (positive or negative) by scholars on the concept of Wikipedia.
  • Describe Wikipedia's fair use policy.
  • Should fair use images be allowed on portals or lists?
  • Describe Wikipedia:Editor Review and Wikipedia:Peer Review as well as what could be done to make them more active.
  • "Editcountitis" and its symptoms. (intended to be humorous)
  • Wikipedia's guidelines on userpages and userboxes.
  • Overview of Wikipedia's Manual of Style.
  • History of Wikis, Wikipedia, Nupedia, Wikia, Bomis, and Wikimedia.
  • A segment consisting of tips and hints for Wikipedian newbies.
  • Pros and cons of anonymous editing on Wikipedia.

Existing audio content that could be included

Questions

A few off the cuff questions from Connel MacKenzie - wikt 07:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  1. What will the board do to facilitate better interproject coordination from sister projects?
  2. When will WitkionaryZ be part of the WMF cluster? Will it be an official sister project too?
    1. What is the current development staff for WitkionaryZ?
    2. What are the latest projects they are focusing on?
    3. There was talk of automated language inflection relation mapping - any progress?
    4. Is there a development roadmap (e.g. when will all other language relations be mapped) for WitkionaryZ?
    5. What growth statistics do you have for WitkionaryZ?
  3. What is the board's view of license compatability of WitkionaryZ vs. WMF? (CC-by vs. GFDL)
  4. Are there plans to collect sister-project enhancements (e.g. preferences, Wiktionary's spell checker, etc.) into Wikipedia, Meta, Commons and the other sister projects?

Feedback

E-mail

  • The Internal news media page at meta-wiki has an entry for WikipediaWeekly
    • Email contact wikipediaweekly at wikipediaweekly dot com

General Feedback

Archived comments can be found here.

  • I think Wikimania needs better webcasting, in general, regardless of where it happens. I know folks in the northeastern US who couldn't make it to the one in Boston. I was there participating and I feel like I missed a lot of it, simply because there were five talks in the same hour and five hundred interesting contributors to meet. —Dvortygirl 17:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • this latest episode's sound quality (i'm listening to the 64k mp3) is kinda low - static and distortion pretty prominent, especially early in the show. JoeSmack Talk(p-review!) 17:55, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    It's source mic issues, we encoded it @ 128 and there's no difference.... most podcasts are @ 64.. 128 really kills the server when we get popular -- Tawker 18:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)`[reply]
  • Are you uploading the OGGs to Commons? If not, why not? (They might have to be broken into parts, is all. I think there's still a 20mb upload limit.) nice work --pfctdayelise (translate?)

Questions for the panel

Spread WikipediaWeekly

This is our get listener campgain. The best podcast in the world is useless unless people download and listen to it. The role of this subproject is to get listeners by promoting the hell out of it.

We're listed on iTunes and I've submitted to directories but we need publicity... badly.

Fellow Projects

WikipediaWeekly is linked to the School of Media Studies at Wikiversity.

Wikimedia Foundation hosting

Plans for Wikimedia Foundation server and project support for podcasting.

  • MediaWiki extension for podcasting
    • The WikiPodcast MediaWiki extension was apparently only made for .mp3 files. Could it be easily modified for other file formats such as .m4a?
    • The WikiPodcast MediaWiki extension was apparently only made to produce one RSS feed that would podcast every uploaded .mp3 file. Could this be modified to support multiple podcasts (for example, a podcast for each Wikimedia Foundation project that wants one?).
    • Should there be a formal Wikimedia podcasting project proposal at meta?
    • The Wikimania media files are also a mess. Can anyone explain the limited set of file types allowed at Commons and why even media files from Wikimania that are of accepted types are not hosted by Commons? Is the problem that nobody associated with the Wikimedia Foundation wants to deal with paying for the bandwidth costs or serving multimedia?
Personally I don't see this as being something we do in the MediaWiki software itself. I think a limited set of users having access to the RSS feed is probally a good thing, we wouldn't want a vandal screwing up something that can easily get downloaded en masse and that is harder to revert than an edit on Wikipedia. The WikipediaWeekly RSS feed is open to established users here, there's a reason we protect the main page you know... it's a visiblity thing. What we really need is a flat out file serving box that can pump the files out good and fast, that's really the best bet. -- Tawker 23:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"I think a limited set of users having access to the RSS feed is probally a good thing" <-- I agree. I was thinking of a dedicated podcasting wiki that would have restricted access just like the Foundation wiki. I thought maybe use of the WikiPodcast MediaWiki extension would result in minimal work for Wikimedia Foundation developers to set up a podcasting system. It might be just as easy for them to set up some kind of FTP access to a server. --JWSchmidt 04:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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