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::That's exactly what kept me from correcting it. So... that last sentence is part of the quote then? If so, fine with me. If not, it looks a bit weird. [[User:Oxygene7-13|Oxygene7-13]] ([[User talk:Oxygene7-13|talk]]) 14:43, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
::That's exactly what kept me from correcting it. So... that last sentence is part of the quote then? If so, fine with me. If not, it looks a bit weird. [[User:Oxygene7-13|Oxygene7-13]] ([[User talk:Oxygene7-13|talk]]) 14:43, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
::: I'm not sure what you mean. The last two sentences are a quote, yes. '''[[User:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">Dark</span>]][[User talk:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:black;">Knight</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">2149</span>]]''' 16:59, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
::: I'm not sure what you mean. The last two sentences are a quote, yes. '''[[User:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">Dark</span>]][[User talk:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:black;">Knight</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">2149</span>]]''' 16:59, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
::::the '''DO NOT CHANGE''' message witheld me from editing, the 2 brackets in the middle of an article look weird to me but if it's part of the quote, it's fine with me. I hope I have explained it clear enough now. Thanx for answering and I won't bother you anymore on this subject. [[User:Oxygene7-13|Oxygene7-13]] ([[User talk:Oxygene7-13|talk]]) 10:44, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Revision as of 10:45, 1 April 2019

Remember

If I don't respond immediately, I am probably busy. If that is the case, I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Regards, DarkKnight2149

Getting Back into the Swing of Things: Announcements and Questions

Hello DarkKnight2149, Just wanted to let you know of a couple of things before I forget. I'm now on my winter break and so I will try getting back into working on the Leatherface project. I have been looking over it a couple of times and realized that we need to add information on the character's development in the new prequel to the development section since there is none of that information in that section. I will be working on the remake timeline stuff so if you come across any information pertaining to that during your search for information on the other timelines feel free to send them my way. I've also been working on several other articles in my spare time such as trying to get my already GA status article on The Hideous Sun Demon ready for FA status (that might take some time though). I am also working on rewriting and expanding the article on The Gill-Man via a separate userspace. I had a couple of questions pertaining to that, such as whether or not I should add the character's appearance in The Monster Squad, the reason I'm hesitant to do this is since it's not a part of the Universal Monster series and more of a homage to the character so I don't know if it should go there or in the popular culture section. Again thanks for all the help with the Leatherface article, you and several others have made invaluable contributions to its expansion and I can't wait to get it approved for FA status.take that Jason!--Paleface Jack (talk) 17:33, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Paleface Jack: If the Leatherface draft does reach FA status, that would be awesome. Work has been moving slowly there, but I intend on adding the rest of Texas Chainsaw 3D to the Characterisation in the near future. I'll take a look at the development sections for the draft and add information from the prequel there. In the case of The Monster Squad, do we know if the Universal Monsters in the film are officially licensed by Universal Pictures? If it isn't officially licensed, my instinct would be to list it in Popular culture. Leatherface (2017 film) is nearly complete and the Blu-Ray comes out in a few days. When I obtain a copy, I'll probably add any applicable information from the Special Features (casting information, filming, removed/deleted scenes, ETC). I know you mentioned wanting to adjust a few things before the eventual peer review. I also plan on doing some work on a Professor Pyg draft, the Begotten draft, Victor Crowley (film), Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation (two in-depth interviews have surfaced), and finishing Hellraiser: Judgment when news starts dropping. It was supposed to be released this year, but appears to be in a similar situation to Leatherface (2017) in that news mysteriously stopped and the film missed its release window. Hopefully it comes out by Halloween 2018; director Gary Tunnicliffe has mentioned that a theatrical release is a possibility and that Bob Weinstein was impressed with it. DarkKnight2149 00:51, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Paleface Jack: Speaking of "getting back into the swing of things", I haven't been editing much since December. I'll try to get back on that as soon as possible. Leatherface (2017 film) is already awaiting GA review, Hellraiser: Judgment be released next month (I'll need to complete that). Are there any major updates on the Begotten draft? I recently rewatched the film to assist with it. DarkKnight2149 22:01, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't know. College started up again for me and I made the mistake of taking two massive film-making classes back to back so I've been understandably busy and probably will be for a while. I will still continue to make edits whenever I can but major edits may not be immediately forthcoming. I will take a look at the article again and get back to you as soon as I can.--Paleface Jack 03:02, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Paleface Jack: I can understand that, not having much time on Wikipedia recently myself. DarkKnight2149 03:06, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is a bummer though, exhaustion and the fact that I need to finish my film degree have been leaving me with less free time than I would want (sighs) oh well. All work and no play makes (insert name) a dull boy...--Paleface Jack 03:14, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Here I am again. Unfortunately I am going have to take a hiatus so that I can work more on some projects of mune. I will do only very minor edits since I've been spending more time than I should on this site. Just thought I'd let you know. Also I accidentally clicked on your home page and I say that link that says that it contains your real name... Not sure if it's a joke or what but it sent be to a music video by Rick Astley. I'm a bit confused about that, are you a Youtuber posting videos on Astley?--Paleface Jack 20:32, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@Paleface Jack: That's understandable, especially since I also haven't been able to edit as much since moving (besides cleaning, unpacking, and real life work, I have mainly been using my phone and public WiFi to edit; probably going to buy my own soon). As for the real name link, it was indeed a joke, albeit a cheap and easy one. I also think the video itself falls into the "so cheesy, it's funny" variety, even if the joke itself is admittedly several years stale. DarkKnight2149 22:25, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I thought as much. Although it would be really funny and (sort of) cool if there were any editors out there that were actual celebrities or famous Youtubers (I don't count);).--Paleface Jack 22:35, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

You probably don't know this but I am also an (unfortunately inactive) member of WikiProject Cryptozoology. I've been seeing a lot of that looks like vandalism by Bloodoffox, removing cryptozoology categories and rewording things to appear as though article topics are on mythological creatures. I believe this is an attempt to get his merger proposal for List of Cryptids merged with List of mythological creatures although I cannot be sure. I'd like your thought on this.--Paleface Jack 01:55, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@Paleface Jack: I'll look into it right now. DarkKnight2149 15:58, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I took a look at Bloodofox's contributions. Although I haven't found anything to suggest deliberate vandalism, there does appear to be a lot of persistent changes to his preferred revisions without discussion. DarkKnight2149 16:53, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To @Bloodofox: It doesn't look good when you mass-replace a category in multiple articles without discussion, especially after your attempts to merge the respective list articles throughout the years have failed on more than one occasion. It also doesn't look good when you resort to opening a merger discussion after such without notifying anyone involved in the article and then edit war to keep those changes in place. If you believe in your P.O.V. this much, it would probably be better to notify both WikiProjects and open a larger discussion on this topic. Wikipedia is consensus based, after all. DarkKnight2149 16:53, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On the topic of humor, have you ever seen RocketMan? It's by far one of the most underappreciated comedy of all time. Surprisingly it was released by Disney but, unfortunately, they haven't released any worth while DVD or Blue-Ray with special features and the like. It's kind of sad. Anyways if you haven't seen it you owe it to yourself to check it out.--Paleface Jack 15:27, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

You might want to post your message to BloodofFox at the FRINGE THEORIES noticeboard. I reverted one of his edits and told him to cease and desist from undiscussed edits to cryptid categories or he would be reported (probably shouldn't have done that) and now he's ranting about me on the "fringe theories" discussion. Hopefully this doesn't escalate but I'm afraid it might.:P--Paleface Jack 00:45, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

... Yepppp, I seem to have made it worse. :O--Paleface Jack 02:30, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't know if we should be reporting this user or not. I still don't understand how that works. Sorry I brought you into this mess I made.:P--Paleface Jack 15:50, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Continued business

Hello DK2149, Although I'm still very busy at the moment, I was thinking that we should transfer what we have currently on the article on the Leatherface character. My thoughts on that is this: Even though there is still some work that needs to be done to the article with more information needed to be added, I think the best bet in getting some more help with it is to transfer what we have so far and see if anyone else can help. I just wanted your thoughts on the idea before going ahead and implementing it.--Paleface Jack 16:47, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Paleface Jack: Greetings, and sorry for the late reply. My personal opinion is that we should wait until it's a bit closer to completion before moving it, because it might attract the wrong types of editors. You can see the edit history of the current Leatherface article to get an idea of what I'm talking about. I myself have had to deal with a lot of that from inexperienced IP editors and redlink accounts at Jigsaw (2017 film), Halloween (2018 film), and Hellraiser: Judgment (the vandal Its judgment day is one I think you yourself reverted). It might be a better idea to alert WP:FILM, since Leatherface is a popular film character and that WikiProject seems active. Of course, it's your draft, so the final decision is in your hands.
In terms of the work on it, I actually have several sources related to Texas Chainsaw 3D bookmarked on my computer that I've been meaning to update it with for a while now. Hopefully I'll get to that soon. I know you mentioned that some of the development regarding the 2017 film should be added to the draft. Might I ask which information do you have in mind? I added the information regarding Sam Strike's preparation for the role to Men Behind the Mask and I added the info on how he was portrayed/written to Characterization. If you still believe that there's other information for that film that is pertinent to the draft, please let me know.
Hellraiser: Judgment is pretty much finished. Like Leatherface (2017 film), I'm pretty much just playing the waiting game with those articles. Judgment is awaiting Peer Review, though it doesn't look like anyone is going to respond (If archived with no reply, I'm thinking about seeking advise from an FA mentor on how close it is to reaching FA quality; if it doesn't have a chance at that, I'm convinced it's ripe enough for a GA nomination). Meanwhile, Leatherface (2017) is collecting dust at WP:GAN#FILM. Just got to wait those out, which gives me time to work on the Leatherface and Professor Pyg drafts.
I also have relatively fresh interviews bookmarked that should help expand the Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III and Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation articles. Cheers. DarkKnight2149 03:47, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking the same thing, might as well do whatever's best to finish it. Why are you editing a draft on Professor Pyg?--Paleface Jack 03:53, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

I also have a bunch of information on Leatherface all in a file on one of my many flash drives if that helps. I still think we need to get more people working on this article since its only us two at the moment (well I haven't done a lot in the past several months, me being burned out with film projects and stuff). Any other insights from someone else who might bring something fresh that we might be missing is always accepted. I was thinking DarkWarriorBlade considering his work on expanding the article on The Thing, which I also want to make an article on the character and possibly have him help me with that one two. At the moment I'm chilling at the moment "recovering" from this term so it might take me a while to implement all of this... Sighs... Oh well.--Paleface Jack 04:05, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

@Paleface Jack: I'll go ahead and leave a message at WP:FILM to see if we can attract some attention to it. I have actually worked with Darkwarriorblake on occasion in the past (probably the most recent one being in a discussion regarding Joker (character) last year). If he helped on the article, that would be great. He's already helped an impressive number of articles reach Good Article and Featured Article status. Tagging: @Darkwarriorblake: Would you be interested in helping us develop the Leatherface draft?
I would suggest Paul730 for his work on Michael Myers (Halloween) and Jason Voorhees, but he seems to be inactive in recent years. His userpage lists Bignole (who has worked on the draft before) and Zythe as honourary collaborators. I have interacted with Zythe on various occasions in the past (particularly on comic book related articles), but they don't seem to edit many horror articles. Still, it wouldn't hurt to ask. DarkKnight2149 20:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead. I sent a message to DarkWarriorBlade to see if he would like to come onboard, we shall see what that brings.--Paleface Jack 20:37, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done @Paleface Jack: @Darkwarriorblake: I have notified the WikiProject. I plan on getting those Texas Chainsaw 3D sources in the draft within the week. DarkKnight2149 21:02, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good work.--Paleface Jack 21:04, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi guys! I like the original TCSM but I'm no expert on the franchise, so don't think I'll be much help here. Do bear me in mind for other stuff (I'm more au fait with Scream and Nightmare if you're ever working on those shows).Zythe (talk) 15:40, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Paleface Jack: I moved to a new house over the weekend, so I unfortunately got nothing done (Irritating, I realise). I am going to try and catch up on my planned work, especially some additions to articles that I've been meaning to do for a while (Texas Chainsaw 3D at the Leatherface draft, additions to Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday, Halloween (2018 film), Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation, Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III, the Professor Pyg draft, ETC). DarkKnight2149 17:32, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No need to apologize. I understand.--Paleface Jack 19:24, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

He's at it again....

Hello DarkKnight, just though I'd let you know that BloodofFox is at it again. On top of the usual stuff, he's now trying to get redirects on cryptid related articles that don't make any sense whatsoever to me including a redirect of Mythical being to Cryptozoology. I'm sorry for bringing you into this but I think we might need to report him to the admins around here. I'm not even going to attempt to deal with this guy since it was so frustrating the last time I had to where I nearly got my head bitten off by him in a matter of speaking. (sighs)--Paleface Jack 23:41, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

I seriously hate this dude... He reverts all my edits on cryptid articles, giving the usual lame excuses. (sighs)--Paleface Jack 01:44, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Sighs...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#BloodofFox_and_the_Cryptid_Debacle--Paleface Jack (talk) 21:59, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Finally Back...

Hello Darkknight2149, Tis been a while since I last posted something here. After my "hiatus" and the start of summer, I'm finally back to making some more edits for articles now. Just wanted to check up and see if we should continue our collaboration?--Paleface Jack (talk) 00:20, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Did a little more work on the revision draft for Begotten. Let me know what you think.--Paleface Jack (talk) 15:35, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Hello Darkknight2149, Just wanted to let you know that I got your message and sent a reply to it on my talk page. If you have any more questions or need any help finding information please let me know.--Paleface Jack (talk) 17:03, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I saw it, thanks! I'm going to take a look at the drafts pretty soon, to see what else needs to be done. DarkKnight2149 19:28, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:58, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hellraiser

Why is Hellraiser: Judgement written in the way you have here? It has never been stylized like that, has it? Oxygene7-13 (talk) 18:51, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Oxygene7-13: He was referring to Hellraiser: Judgment, but those exact words weren't used in the immediate quote. Hence the brackets. It's a well-known technique when simplifying or distributing quotes. The "no-wiki" template is used because people keep mistaking it for a faulty attempt at linking it to the Hellraiser: Judgment page, and they keep trying to "correct" it. DarkKnight2149 21:42, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's exactly what kept me from correcting it. So... that last sentence is part of the quote then? If so, fine with me. If not, it looks a bit weird. Oxygene7-13 (talk) 14:43, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you mean. The last two sentences are a quote, yes. DarkKnight2149 16:59, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
the DO NOT CHANGE message witheld me from editing, the 2 brackets in the middle of an article look weird to me but if it's part of the quote, it's fine with me. I hope I have explained it clear enough now. Thanx for answering and I won't bother you anymore on this subject. Oxygene7-13 (talk) 10:44, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]