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Should this be merged into [[NHK]]? -- [[User:Ortonmc|Ortonmc]] 14:29, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Should this be merged into [[NHK]]? -- [[User:Ortonmc|Ortonmc]] 14:29, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)


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::The above discussion took place in October 2003, and a merge has never materialized.--[[User:Endroit|Endroit]] 15:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::The above discussion took place in October 2003, and a merge has never materialized.--[[User:Endroit|Endroit]] 15:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


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{{{result|The result of the debate was}}} '''PAGE MOVED''' per discussion below. It is now possible to start a new article at [[International broadcasting in Japan]] with a wider scope, as discussed below. As such, I left one redirect pointing at that page, while the NHK-specific redirects now point here. -[[User:GTBacchus|GTBacchus]]<sup>([[User talk:GTBacchus|talk]])</sup> 07:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
== Requested move ==
== Requested move ==
[[International broadcasting in Japan]] → [[NHK World]] — ''"NHK World"'' is the only existing ''"International broadcasting in Japan"'', and this article already talks about ''"NHK World"'' only. [[User:Endroit|Endroit]] 15:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
[[International broadcasting in Japan]] → [[NHK World]] — ''"NHK World"'' is the only existing ''"International broadcasting in Japan"'', and this article already talks about ''"NHK World"'' only. [[User:Endroit|Endroit]] 15:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
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:::Yes, that's a nice idea. It would be informative for the reader.--[[User:Endroit|Endroit]] 14:53, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
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Revision as of 07:36, 25 November 2006

Should this be merged into NHK? -- Ortonmc 14:29, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I think so -- Taku
The above discussion took place in October 2003, and a merge has never materialized.--Endroit 15:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. It is now possible to start a new article at International broadcasting in Japan with a wider scope, as discussed below. As such, I left one redirect pointing at that page, while the NHK-specific redirects now point here. -GTBacchus(talk) 07:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

International broadcasting in JapanNHK World"NHK World" is the only existing "International broadcasting in Japan", and this article already talks about "NHK World" only. Endroit 15:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Does the comment "NHK is the only existing "International broadcasting in Japan" warrant a short stub article? The subject of International broadcasting in Japan shouldn't exclusively be NHK, like you say, so the way the article is now is misleading, but something like a disambig page functioning as a stub might make more sense.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  17:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let me point out that this article started out with contents about NHK World only, but with an apparently wrong title. The edit histories for this article should go into the NHK World article.
Having said that, I think it IS OK to start another article from scratch after that move is completed. Based on personal knowledge and ja:国際放送 (international broadcasting), some of the following MAY also qualify as "International broadcasting in Japan":
  1. Fujisankei Communications International - Programming originates from Fuji TV of Japan, and targets Japanese audiences overseas, but the offices are in New York, not Japan.
  2. Radio Nikkei / ja:日経ラジオ社 - These are shortwave radio broadcasts (the radio signals reach overseas), however the target is Japanese listeners in Japan, not international.
  3. JJY / ja:JJY - These transmit primarily time signals (beeping noises), similar to WWV of the United States, and do not carry any broadcast programs in any language.
  4. AFN-Japan / ja:AFN (formerly Far East Network) - These are U.S. military broadcast services, targeting U.S. military personnel stationed in Japan.
  5. Shiokaze / ja:しおかぜ (放送) - These are propaganda programs targeting primarily Japanese abductees in North Korea.
  6. Aum Shinrikyo - This Japanese doomsday cult had international broadcasts in its heyday, however there are no Wiki articles on this and it may be hard to find sources.
If you find at least one item in the above list which qualify as "International broadcasting in Japan", please comment, and we shall create a new article based on any info we have.--Endroit 19:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Technically none of those are international, though I agree that that point is a little open to interpretation. I think something like this, acting as a stub/disambig/redirect for the International broadcasting in Japan, would serve as appropriate content:

International broadcasting in Japan is generally limited to the signals generated by the government-owned NHK World, which broadcasts television and radio programs overseas. A few other institutions originally based in Japan have carried Japanese programming overseas, though these are very limited and are generally not considered to be "international" broadcasts.

How's that?  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  04:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's a nice idea. It would be informative for the reader.--Endroit 14:53, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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