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I do not request an investigation on any user lightly, but the editing behavior Alison Alice has displayed is consistent with other sockpuppets on this page, and the post she made being also posted on reddit by someone known for defending far-right groups is also consistent with her editing. Given the current assault this page is under by sockpuppet accounts, I think it is important that we determine if she is a sock or not - and if she is a sock, if she is a sock of ModerateMikayla or Abd, or both. '''[[User:Toa Nidhiki05|<i style="color: green; font-family: Mistral;">Toa</i>]] [[User talk:Toa Nidhiki05|<i style="color: green; font-family: Mistral;">Nidhiki05</i>]]''' 01:20, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I do not request an investigation on any user lightly, but the editing behavior Alison Alice has displayed is consistent with other sockpuppets on this page, and the post she made being also posted on reddit by someone known for defending far-right groups is also consistent with her editing. Given the current assault this page is under by sockpuppet accounts, I think it is important that we determine if she is a sock or not - and if she is a sock, if she is a sock of ModerateMikayla or Abd, or both. '''[[User:Toa Nidhiki05|<i style="color: green; font-family: Mistral;">Toa</i>]] [[User talk:Toa Nidhiki05|<i style="color: green; font-family: Mistral;">Nidhiki05</i>]]''' 01:20, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

: Per the Tanton stuff, my only point was that TAnton himself, CIS, and CIs founder all say Tanton wasn't involved. Seems noteworthy that his role is disputed, I'd hardly call that defending a white supremacist. Per reddit, I should've labeled it. I saw the discussion and cut and paste it. I have no connection to Abd. And per my own bio, I don't even really get what you're saying. I'd describe myself politically as neoliberal, and think most of my edits have reflected that view. Before getting involved in this CIS scuffle, I've edited a range of political topics. Feel free to look yourself. This all feels kind of unhinged. [[User:Alison Alice|Alison Alice]] ([[User talk:Alison Alice|talk]]) 02:27, 7 July 2019 (UTC)


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Alison Alice

Alison Alice (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki)
Please note that a case was originally opened under Darryl.jensen (talk · contribs) but has been moved to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alison Alice. Future cases should be placed under Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alison Alice.

07 July 2019

– A user has requested CheckUser. An SPI clerk will shortly look at the case and endorse or decline the request.

Suspected sockpuppets


This is my first time at SPI so apologies if I have formatted this improperly. Center for Immigration Studies has been brigaded by SPI and sockpuppet accounts devoted to removing any claims that the organization is anti-immigration as well as claims that it is affiliated with white nationalist. A recent sockpuppet investigation uncovered at least three sockpuppet accounts all tag-teaming to try and create a fake consensus for these changes; all have been blocked. Recently, several other suspicious accounts have appeared, and disturbing external evidence indicates that these accounts might have some ties to a banned user.

The ModerateMikayla555 socks all shared a common pattern, as observed by Newslinger: the accounts claimed to be politically moderate or liberal, but their edits contradicted their claims. In the case of Alison Alice, her account previously included this claim:

A lot of my editing is political, because it's something I'm passionate about that gives me a break from theatre. Although my views could broadly be described as liberal, I don't always agree with the Democratic Party. I'm especially concerned about climate change and queer liberation. The latter two are what sometimes put me at odds with other liberals, but I'm always open to debate.

This remark was removed around the time editors had discovered this same pattern (claims to be liberal, but edits to promote right-wing groups) in the sock accounts.

Alison Alice has also specifically endorsed the proposals the socks made, requested their proposals be BOLDLY adopted, and has recently attempted to promote the exact same agenda these editors had on the talk page. She has made edits on other pages affiliated with far-right groups, including John Tanton (who is mentioned as a white nationalist and eugenicist on the Center for Immigration Studies page, which the socks attempted to remove), Social Contract Press, Roy Beck, and VDARE.

Additionally, it was raised to our attention in the last hour that several reddit posts ([1] and [2], both at r/WikiInAction) have been created targeting this page. One of the reddit posts is an exact match to a post Alison Alice made on Wikipedia. While reddit does not offer a timestamp, both posts were made yesterday and the reddit user who posted it has claimed it is their post; this reddit user claims to be User:Abd, a banned user who is a notorious online far-right conspiracy theorist that has frequently defended far-right fringe groups.

I do not request an investigation on any user lightly, but the editing behavior Alison Alice has displayed is consistent with other sockpuppets on this page, and the post she made being also posted on reddit by someone known for defending far-right groups is also consistent with her editing. Given the current assault this page is under by sockpuppet accounts, I think it is important that we determine if she is a sock or not - and if she is a sock, if she is a sock of ModerateMikayla or Abd, or both. Toa Nidhiki05 01:20, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Per the Tanton stuff, my only point was that TAnton himself, CIS, and CIs founder all say Tanton wasn't involved. Seems noteworthy that his role is disputed, I'd hardly call that defending a white supremacist. Per reddit, I should've labeled it. I saw the discussion and cut and paste it. I have no connection to Abd. And per my own bio, I don't even really get what you're saying. I'd describe myself politically as neoliberal, and think most of my edits have reflected that view. Before getting involved in this CIS scuffle, I've edited a range of political topics. Feel free to look yourself. This all feels kind of unhinged. Alison Alice (talk) 02:27, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Pinging involved editors on talk: Snooganssnoogans, Jorm, Britishfinance, Doug Weller, Nableezy, Dumuzid, and Aquillion. Also pinging Simonm223, Bbb23, and Volunteer Marek, who were involved at the first ModerateMike SPI, and NorthBySouthBaranof and Drmies, who were involved at the ModerateMikayla SPI - the two accounts were the same. Toa Nidhiki05 01:28, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • This user left a comment on my page that is, by itself, not unusual except for the call-to-authority concerning their gender and sexual orientation ("PS, I'll post whevever I damn well please--do you normally tell women where they are and are not allowed to reply or return?"), which is the exact same kind of non-relevant, redirecting argument that "Moderate" Mike/Mikayla would make.--Jorm (talk) 01:35, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Consider that maybe I was angry after you called me a sock without evidence, then told me I'm a "white supremacist" for disagreeing with you on an edit, then repeatedly mocked me? The lack of self awareness is genuinely impressive. Alison Alice (talk) 01:48, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Requesting CheckUser due to possible connection with the recent ModerateMikayla555 SPI. — Newslinger talk 02:15, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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