User talk:MrOllie

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bet-at-home.com

Hi MrOllie, changes made in the article about bet-at-home.com referred only to facts and figures which have been published in the financial report. No changes in the part about sponsoring. Why have the changes been reversed? Bah2011 (talk) 11:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC):

You also added a product offering sourced to unreliable sources - and since you are a paid editor and apparently don't understand Wikipedia's policies, you should not be editing the article directly *at all*. Use the talk page, please. - MrOllie (talk) 11:59, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer. Why is the source unreliable? I am not sure if you can check this within one minute. Only because of the reason that Bah2011 is a paid editor you can’t say that Bah2011 don’t understand Wikipedia’s policies. When started writing the article Bah2011 took part in the “adopt-a-user” program. According to Wikipedia's policies the article is written in a neutral way based on facts and figures. But if you think that the article is not correct at all than please help to improve it not only with deleting updates. Bah2011 (talk) 12:25, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Comparison of TLS implementations

You just removed my additions regarding a TLS implementation from the Comparison of TLS implementations. You note that: "We don't base entries on the list on external links." I am wondering what this means, because there is an entry from Apple: Secure Transport which IS just an external link. OTOH there is an entry from Erlang: Erlang/OTP SSL application When you removed my additions for the first time you wrote: "linked article is about a programming language, not a TLS implementation". This is exact the case for the Erlang entry. Of cause Apple and Ericson are big companies that everybody knows. Several hours of my work just moved to the wastebasket. Can you help me to find a way such that my work is not wasted? Hans Bauer (talk) 13:42, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing the other two out, I removed them as well. RE: wasting your work - You seem to be singularly focused on editing about Seed7. That's fine (provided there is no conflict of interest), but I suggest that you invest some time in working on unrelated topics so you can gain some experience and perspective on how things generally work on Wikipedia. - MrOllie (talk) 14:48, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

In the past my focus was on many, mostly computer related, Wikipedia articles. I invested some time on Wikipedia. But in recent years I have not so much time to spend. This reduced my focus, such that it looks like I am singularly focused. Now I spend most of my time and energy outside of Wikipedia: In the real World. In real life the probability, that somebody throws my work away, is lower. I can understand that Wikipedia has rules. But in this case I don't understand them. Are just TLS libraries allowed in the comparison, if they have a Wikipedia article? I would consider this constraint as too strict. As a reader I would like to see all TLS libraries. There are not so many TLS libraries, so this would not blow up the article. Most TLS libraries are written in C, some in Java. When a library is written in Erlang or Seed7 it shows diversification (you know the thing that reduces the possibility that an animal becomes extinct). Ok, I digress. Basically I ask you for help to save my work on the Comparison of TLS implementations. What is necessary to add the Apple, Erlang and Seed7 TLS libraries back to the comparison? Hans Bauer (talk) 17:02, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes, it is a list of things that already have a Wikipedia article, which is the most common list inclusion criterion on Wikipedia. I suppose you could make an argument of notability if you had 2 or more independently written sources about the TLS library, but I took a quick look and didn't turn any useful sources up. As an aside, the refrences on the Seed7 article itself are quite weak. I would worry about shoring that up first - you have one substantive source that looks like it had no editing or peer review, and one that is only a trivial mention. Everything else comes from the language designer. An article needs at least two high quality independent sources to establish notability. - MrOllie (talk) 17:40, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

LA Fashion Week

Thank you Mr. Ollie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bowiepics (talk • contribs) 16:24, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Godmother (cocktail)

The list of IBA cocktails is the foundation of Wikipedia's cocktail contributions.

Every IBA official cocktail has it's own Wikipedia page and rightfully so.

Except ONE cocktail doesn't have it's own Wikipedia page.

If you go to Godmother (cocktail) you are automatically routed to the Godfather (cocktail) page

The fact is:

The Godmother is a variation of the Godfather The French Connection is a variation of the Godfather too.

The French Connection has it's own Wikipedia page, the Godmother routes to the Godfather.

I would like to make a real Wikipedia page for the Godmother (cocktail)

How do I do that if it automatically routes to the Godfather? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xandermiller (talk • contribs) 20:23, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

When you click on Godmother_(cocktail) you'll see a little comment at the top that says "Redirected from Godmother_(cocktail)" - click on that link and you'll be taken to the redirect page. Once there you can click the edit button and overwrite the redirect with a real article. - MrOllie (talk) 20:32, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Mr. Ollie, thanks, I did exactly what you said. I changed the redirect to a real official IBA cocktail page and linked to it from the relevant lists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xandermiller (talk • contribs) 00:32, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

You cancelled the first web travel reality show - NomadCommunity

Dear MrOllie, indeed I added an information on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_television. At the bottom of 1980s–1990s section I added that: in 1999/2000 NomadCommunity.com realized the Interactive Round the World Tour, creating the first web travel reality show. You cancelled it saying it didn't include a citation, which is true. The point is that the news was reported especially on hard copies (see this press review from 2000 to 2001 http://www.matteopennacchi.com/press-review/ It was also reported on National Geographic and TIME Canada http://www.matteopennacchi.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2001-02-TimeMagazineCanadaweb.jpg The website is still there www.nomadcommunity.com and you will find the videos, voting formes etc... Please help me to insert this lovely Information on Wikipedia. Best regards Aleandro Matteo ≈≈≈≈≈ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleandro Mattei (talk • contribs) 12:34, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Looks like reprinted press releases to me, but if you have a good source that isn't a press release, cite it directly. - MrOllie (talk) 13:22, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Subheading and Section Headers on the Wikipedia article web page.

You took my off addition to the to the [(publishing)] Wikipedia web page.

I added these words:

Subheading and Section Headers

Some articles will have several bold words at the beginning of multiple paragraphs. Subheadings not only help the reader to quickly glance and get an idea of what the article is about, but subheadings also simply help the reader to read a long article. If a long article has no subheadings, it can be tedious for the reader due multiple paragraphs after the other. Subheadings make a long article more manageable to read for some people. In fact, the words, Headline, Byline, Lead, Body or running text, Subheadings or Section headers and Conclusion are all Subheadings of this Wikipedia article.

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Now... I don't mind someone taking off my work but I expect that person make to put back what I was writing about and make it much better. You have students, excellent professional writers to horrible disgusting professional writers, and every type of writer in between reading this web page and this is an important part of article writing which should not be left out.

I just talked to one of my professional writer friends and he agreed this should be part of this Wikipedia page. If Mr. Ollie, you are working to update the "Article (publishing)" Wikipedia web page, that is fine. If you just deleted my edit and you REFUSE to add it and make this Wikipedia page better, I will be reporting you. --MikeWest (talk) 19:18, 20 September 2019 (UTC)